and yes they dont look great in fact they all kinda look like 2005 Nissans to me. also the interiors look like shit, I mean I know I'm a hater but seriously it looks like model furniture from WG&R inside those
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:15 (ten months ago) link
theyre so bad, absolute sucker shit
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:17 (ten months ago) link
They’re everywhere around where I live. To be fair, BMW drivers are bigger jerks, even though their cars are far more attractive.
― treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:17 (ten months ago) link
I admit they are fun to drive and have seriously insane pickup which you'll probably never have to use but as someone who's also ridden in them a bunch it often occurs to me that whoever designs them wasn't concerned for anyone but the driver. its not just uncomfortable it's also really aesthetically ugly when you're in the backseat
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:18 (ten months ago) link
Once I slowed down to let a BMW driver merge into traffic and he *still* flipped me off. I think it was a way of expressing a general hatred of everyone, even (especially?) people who do what he wants.
― treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:19 (ten months ago) link
Back to teslas — i anecdotally have heard of people using the “autopilot” feature to get home when shitfaced drunk. It is not at all safe to use it this way, as far as I know. Why did regulators allow it to go to market?
― treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:21 (ten months ago) link
these things are effectively unregulated afaict
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:22 (ten months ago) link
Absolutely bananas
― treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:23 (ten months ago) link
I've often wondered if stuff like lane deviation warnings and radar cruise have made it harder to identify drunk drivers
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:26 (ten months ago) link
yeah prob
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:27 (ten months ago) link
All cars should come with the BAC blower interlocks and if you blow over the limit it should kill you
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:29 (ten months ago) link
Where’s that innovation Elon?!?
these are the bold ideas we need in these troubled times
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:31 (ten months ago) link
he'd probably just make it play Rick Astley while you were driving. I wanted to say Yakety Sax but that's actually kinda funny and not quite as beaten into the ground so it's not really Elon's style
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 04:34 (ten months ago) link
Other electric cars also have insane acceleration, and aren't cunts.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 November 2023 05:34 (ten months ago) link
My family and I were upgraded to a BMW on a recent vacation and my god, I loved driving that car. I had never driven one before. It was incredible.Of course, I will never be able to afford one, but….
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:28 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, you can absolutely tell that BMW is putting the driving experience at the forefront of their decision process
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:33 (ten months ago) link
Exactly. BMW interiors feel so cheap compared to their competitors.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:40 (ten months ago) link
I’d say more simple than cheap? Austere but durable is a choice and BMWs feel like that to me. Teslas come off as more austere but cheap imo, I have no idea if the seats are more likely to rip or the plastic shows more scuffs or whatever but they feel like you’re in a early 00s SaturnI hate having all kinds of controls on a screen but it’s funny how other luxury brands do all kinds of weird angles, trim inlays, and wonky control systems (looking at you, weird Lexus moving touchpad thing that’s getting phased out) to seem more expensive
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 13:34 (ten months ago) link
― 龜, Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:04 (ten months ago) link
isn't that where someone was trying to sell some anti-carjacking system that had flamethrowers?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:34 (ten months ago) link
every other car in the bay area is a tesla and I honesty don't have any issue with the drivers of those vehicles (also I drive a bmw and do not drive like a jerk). the worst drivers around here are in fucked up old kias, because they are 12 years old and they just carjacked it and are going 100mph in a 25mph zone.
I've ridden in teslas plenty and they are fun but I would absolutely never buy one because a) musk b) reputation for their quality is awful.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:40 (ten months ago) link
kia boys still out there? damn
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 14:54 (ten months ago) link
honestly driving in the bay area is kind of a pain in the ass because I'm convinced 75% of the people driving are high and just don't pay attention anymore (some guy drove into me at 2mph a few months ago, was stoned out of his mind, and then drove off while we were exchanging info)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:01 (ten months ago) link
Kias definitely are a thing again but it's hard to recognize them because the logo looks like "KN"
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:04 (ten months ago) link
lol one of the wildest branding choices
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:05 (ten months ago) link
oh I don't mean a preponderance of kias. I mean the kia boyz
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:14 (ten months ago) link
oh yeah that is definitely still happening, because I don't think Kia or Hyundai fixed the issue for owners
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:23 (ten months ago) link
new kia logo is great, so \m/i wouldn’t say no to a kia stinger
― 龜, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:42 (ten months ago) link
I ended up with an iX as a loaner while some work was being done on my car and I would not call the interior of that car cheap-looking at all
I also would not buy it because I like regular meals, but man was that a nice car
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link
It's been a couple years since I've been in one, but BMW seemed to skimp on things like electric seat adjustments where they seem pretty standard in equivalent Audi and Mercedes. Also, hated some of their control/layout choices.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:25 (ten months ago) link
absolutely no shade on anyone here, there's not much else to say, but the richest person in the world, who now controls one of its most influential media channels, is an openly anti-semitic conspiracy theorist. seems like this should be receiving more attention in the press.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:28 (ten months ago) link
certainly more attention than gaza-related campus cancellations, etc.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:29 (ten months ago) link
I'm not really sure what he's saying. Seems like some theory that Jewish people push the woke mind virus on Whites to make them depressed.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:37 (ten months ago) link
yeah real its bad he should be put in a cubby
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:37 (ten months ago) link
xp https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/11/elon-musks-disturbing-truth/676019/
(here is a link to the press after i complained this was not receiving enough coverage)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:38 (ten months ago) link
however all the german lux brand interiors are prob pretty comparable, tho they each have their own style so its kinda a matter of taste, and the more entry level ones are not as nice as the more expensive one, tho theyre all pretty nice, especially new ones, feel like with new cars in general interiors are pretty effin good, with the exception of putting too much stuff in the touch screen, and maybe having to much stuff to control in general that will break eventually, pickups are the best for just having big physical buttons, theyre like these are big dumb guys theyre gonna want to push a large button with their fat fingers, which really thats all anyone wants
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:40 (ten months ago) link
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, November 16, 2023 9:14 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I saw in St. Paul once this newer kia with this laminated basically FAQ card taped up in the window saying this is a newer model that doesn't not have the engine immobilizer flaw that Kia model years XXXX-XXXX have blah blah blah haha i'm assuming they'd had their window broken a few times
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:45 (ten months ago) link
my gf had her car broken into twice (attempted thefts) and stolen once in like three months last summer
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link
btw i just looked and all the big three german brands entry level cars come with front power seats, you might be able to get some racing seats optional that are manual for weight reasons, but thats be a rare performance set up on one of their special fast cars
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link
I have a Hyundai which is going through the same thing and as a result of the recall upgrade to fix the security flaw they put a sticker in the window advertising the upgraded security and part of me wonders "is this just like daring someone to try?"
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:59 (ten months ago) link
its funny that no cars used to have that anti theft technology and people werent just steeling them like crazy but the fact that one type of car doesnt have it now has really captured the imagination of the youth
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:11 (ten months ago) link
(to be clear my gf's car was a kia in question, she had to get rid of it in a small town in wisconsin where the kia boyz hadn't hit yet - someone we know's bf ended up not being able to get insurance on a kia after it was stolen three times)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:14 (ten months ago) link
absolutely no shade on anyone here, there's not much else to say, but the richest person in the world, who now controls one of its most influential media channels, is an openly anti-semitic conspiracy theorist. seems like this should be receiving more attention in the press.― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, November 16, 2023 11:28 AM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, November 16, 2023 11:28 AM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes, and the specific conspiracy he is boosting -- the idea that jewish people are supporting "mass immigration" to america with the intention of causing "white genocide" -- is the same exact conspiracy theory that motivated the pittsburgh synagogue shooter.
― treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:14 (ten months ago) link
it doesn't get much worse. i have no idea what to do with this information.
my friend had a elantra from that era but his was the kind that wasn't susceptible to the attack
didn't stop somebody from breaking in, trying it, and leaving behind a usb cable
― 龜, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:15 (ten months ago) link
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, November 16, 2023 10:59 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i'd leave it, i think the insane easiness of it was the thrill tbh, these kids aren't stealing other types of cars i doubt, it's basically like someone left a bicycle unlocked on a rack let's take it for a spin type mentality
the one time it was stolen they didn't even take anything out of the car just drove it and left it somewhere
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:15 (ten months ago) link
new hyundais and kias are ok, right? my old impreza is on its last legs and suddenly i am feeling too cool to be driving a subaru.
― treeship., Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:17 (ten months ago) link
don't tell my impreza i said this.
what kind of impreza do you have?
― 龜, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:23 (ten months ago) link