Who cares why he is an asshole, on one level, but on the other hand, he isn’t a teen who got sucked into 4chan, he is the richest man in the world, and he is using his position to sow hatred in the US
― treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:13 (ten months ago) link
yes, i don't see much point in pathologizing why obscenely wealthy white men happen to have horrible politics
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:13 (ten months ago) link
One thing about this reddit connection is that reddit got cleaned up in recent years. So musk probably wants to make X the “new reddit.”
― treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:15 (ten months ago) link
mentioning a white supremacist site you happen to read in order to decry Reddit is a weird flex honestly?
I don’t like social media illiterates upholding a literal right wing extremist-captured disinformation service as their go-to for balanced discussion.― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 02:33 (one month ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:24 (ten months ago) link
lol remember this
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/elon-musk-politics-twitter.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:36 (ten months ago) link
Yeah I don’t think “conservative” really captures that recent tweet…
― treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:38 (ten months ago) link
“Why” he thinks like this is probably on interest only to a biographer.
Does seem sometimes like people are giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying he doesn’t actually think like this and is doing a bit because it’s funny or he’s not very bright or it will cause people to admire him.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 12:40 (ten months ago) link
I think older people assume that the man behind tesla and spacex must be a reasonable person with considered beliefs.
Remember the kids rescued underwater by the diver? An older man I know, a very successful ivy league educated guy, believed elon helped resolve this issue. I told him no, elon wanted to use a submarine and when that didn’t work he baselessly attacked the diver who did rescue the kids as a pedophile. He said no — no way — elon wouldn’t behave in such a weird way.
― treeship., Friday, 17 November 2023 12:54 (ten months ago) link
gyac is referring to this
Nuanced discussions are often lacking in the echo chambers of social media and the 24 hour news cycle. The only place where I've seen nuanced discussions about the topic are on platforms that favor more nuanced discussion, such as 4chan and (yes, believe it or not) St0rmf0ont.
which i'd like some clarification on, because i don't think reading and quote posting from ACTUAL NAZI SITES on ilx is acceptable behaviour tbh
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:03 (ten months ago) link
You’re really not gonna let it go huh gyac. I have never regularly read the D.S. but since you seem invested in defending Reddit, or calling me out for criticizing Reddit or whatever, I wanted to make it clear how specific this association with actual literal Nazis is. Sorry to anyone else that found the language offensive, again I’m all for the mods doing any editing that seems appropriate.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:04 (ten months ago) link
I have zero interest in defending Reddit. I don’t really understand why this is the second recent incident of you mentioning some Neo-Nazi site you read, as though anyone here was interested in the thoughts of their posters.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:06 (ten months ago) link
Sorry Noodle what did you need cleared up there? My point was that Reddit is very specifically linked to S.F. and to /pol/ so the original quote poising it as a home of “nuanced discussion” was farcical imo. I mean yeah maybe nuanced compared to Twitter but that’s really a low bar to hop over. Pretty ridiculous this level of outrage in defense of Reddit when the actual offensive content in that quote was the names of fucking subreddits. (And to be clear the article I viewed was on the archive not their site.)
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:08 (ten months ago) link
////\\\\ //// \\\\parody ___///// gyac \\\\___
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:10 (ten months ago) link
That worked well
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:11 (ten months ago) link
i'm not defending Reddit either, i'm asking why anybody would read fascist websites, "regularly" or not, and asking you to think about posting actual racial slurs on this board, for illustrative purposes or otherwise
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:11 (ten months ago) link
I could say the same about Reddit. That’s my point and yet whether you’re actively defending it or not, it seems to be given a free pass here.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:15 (ten months ago) link
It's being given such a free pass that we are asking you to stop posting stuff from it.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:54 (ten months ago) link
viborg your argument doesn’t make sense— “this website is a racist cesspool, i shall quote noted racist cesspool site praising it as evidence that former is racist cesspool.” trust me when i say you didn’t need to quote the DS to get your point across. mods, plz, delete that awful post.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:55 (ten months ago) link
reddit had the same obnoxious free speech contrarian stance where they allowed subreddit communities to fester for way too long with the defense that their content was banned from the front page. afaik they banned all those communities years ago, but not before people like Musk had proliferated. it’s just a normal internet cesspool at this point and not one that’s a notable shelter for hate speech. Musk thinking that their decision to oust those communities was bad and that twitter should let people post that garbage? probably something that occurred to him
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 17 November 2023 14:04 (ten months ago) link
I don’t think reddit and whether it’s good or bad in 2023 is at all relevant to the conversation other than as a historical reference on how not to handle hate speech, and I don’t think we need to cite an actual pro-nazi site to cite something that was broadly written about and documented at the time
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 17 November 2023 14:07 (ten months ago) link
now reddit the just the only non seo trap how to site left
― lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 14:09 (ten months ago) link
jfc I've seen people pick some weird hills to die on in an internet argument, but doubling down on quoting from an actual Nazi site to prove some incomprehensible point really might be a sign that you need to step away from the internet for a few days
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:10 (ten months ago) link
redaction made
― mod, Friday, 17 November 2023 15:11 (ten months ago) link
I have to say that cannonballing into a discussion about how Elon Musk sucks with “LOOK GUYS, THERE’S RACISM ON REDDIT” is making me laugh more than it probably should
― the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:24 (ten months ago) link
i admit that I don't see what the connection is at all
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:30 (ten months ago) link
i think the claim is elon musk, a man who grew up in south africa and then spent the first 20 years of his adulthood working closely with extremely political crank businessmen, and is a billionaire who runs like ten businesses (and is CTO of one, reporting into the CEO), gets his politics from lurking on message boards.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:19 (ten months ago) link
His heel turn also probably as much to do when the unfettered hero worship of him by people on left and right stopped and someone dared to ask him why he was interfering with a cave rescue
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:07 (ten months ago) link
cool
This is an important and welcome move by @elonmusk. I appreciate this leadership in fighting hate. https://t.co/N1tMHa1M1j— Jonathan Greenblatt (@JGreenblattADL) November 17, 2023
― JoeStork, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:01 (ten months ago) link
nevertheless
https://i.imgur.com/wW1u9Ue.png
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:48 (ten months ago) link
Burning piles of money, to scale.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:57 (ten months ago) link
if i were the conspiratorial sort i would say that owning twitter was a good way of creating an anti-jewish army of american college kids via algorithms and targeted misinformation. but i'm glad i'm not that sort.
― scott seward, Saturday, 18 November 2023 15:58 (ten months ago) link
don't think there's any college kids on twitter in 2023 tbh
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 18 November 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link
yeah, tho using twitter as a bullhorn for his various bad beliefs is for sure part of the plan
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link
lmao at the "thermonuclear" suit he plans to bring next week against the authors of this report for ... faking screenshots? i mean what's his case otherwise? https://www.mediamatters.org/twitter/musk-endorses-antisemitic-conspiracy-theory-x-has-been-placing-ads-apple-bravo-ibm-oracle.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 November 2023 19:24 (ten months ago) link
they're fine long as they don't bring L. Lin Wood out of (forced) retirement to represent them
― mark s, Saturday, 18 November 2023 20:02 (ten months ago) link
musk has a way of saying hes going to sue but then not actually suing
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 21:53 (ten months ago) link
I just watched a vid by a rocket engineering geek explaining that Musk's flagship rocket project blowing to smithereens again was actually a success because something called "the hot separation phase" at 140 km into the ascent into space worked like a dream!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:11 (ten months ago) link
hot separation phase also describes Musk's relationship with Grimes
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:28 (ten months ago) link
not great for twitter
Most of ESPN’s accounts were inactive yesterday after Disney announced on Friday that it was done advertising on X, formerly Twitter. Disney’s decision followed posts by platform owner Elon Musk agreeing with antisemitic and white power accounts. AwfulAnnouncing spotted the inactivity yesterday, noting that the main ESPN account has almost 50 million followers.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/19/23967681/espn-x-accounts-not-posting-disney-no-longer-advertising-musk-antisemitic-posts
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 November 2023 01:22 (ten months ago) link
countdown to DeSantis legislating that Disney has to rescind that decision
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 20 November 2023 03:27 (ten months ago) link
ok so last night i dremt that i was a key designer-cog at SpaceX and we had just put five (5) full-sized rocket-cities up into the sky
we went outside to gaze proudly at them, naturally they were belching all kinds of flaming rocket fuel and smoke everywhere but they were also kind of amazing-looking up there, like massive skyscrapers hovering in the actual distant sky (credit here goes to my own astounding subconscious visual imagination here tho, and not the thin-skinned lizard-fella)
― mark s, Monday, 20 November 2023 11:15 (ten months ago) link
wow scary
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_eCxroXkAAS62h?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:06 (ten months ago) link
@cb_doge
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:08 (ten months ago) link
Bro clearly studied the blade
― circa1916, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link
this is a confession, we shd SWAT him
― mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:53 (ten months ago) link
as threatening as a larper meme
― omar little, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:06 (ten months ago) link
I can't imagine why advertisers are staying away from this platform, it's so convivial and run by such a nice man.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:08 (ten months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_ecW_1WoAA5a4N?format=jpg&name=small
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:08 (ten months ago) link
TS: Large Graveyard filled with my enemies vs. Lonely Starbucks Lover
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:36 (ten months ago) link
Imagine being the richest human on earth and spending your every waking moment showing all of the other people on earth the many many ways in which you are deeply + laughably pathetic. Like not just letting a deeply pathetic public moment happen and then hopefully fade from memory but every day being like 'oh, in case you'd somehow forgotten'
― It is a disgusting... (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 19:20 (ten months ago) link