Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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very interesting!

lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 21:56 (seven months ago) link

heh

Anil Dash

How is the OpenAI board gonna fire Sam Altman just because he gave answers that sounded plausible but weren't actually accurate?

lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:01 (seven months ago) link

Light accounting fraud or doing stuff contrary to the pseudo philanthropic mission of the board. Impossible to say.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2023 22:12 (seven months ago) link

they seem pretty mad

lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:21 (seven months ago) link

we can't rule out a tense meeting in a dark room with a large bright screen where sam altman declared that he was going to launch his physical ai war by taking over the agricultural sector

i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 22:23 (seven months ago) link

[q]https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/17/sam-altman-leaves-openai-mira-murati-appointed-interim-boss.html

wow

― 龜, Friday, November 17, 2023 2:42 PM (one hour ago) [/i]

and shoot, sorry 龜 for missing this!

i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 22:24 (seven months ago) link

they found out he was drinking all the water that was supposed to cool their servers

lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:25 (seven months ago) link

...OpenAI’s board includes chief scientist Ilya Sutskever and independent directors like Quora CEO Adam D’Angelo

very interesting that ned exposes quora christian infant viral internet to bluesky and suddenly sam altman steps down

i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 22:25 (seven months ago) link

would you ask a christain baby to do your homework for you

lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:30 (seven months ago) link

google man riding hard for alt man

Sam Altman is a hero of mine. He built a company from nothing to $90 Billion in value, and changed our collective world forever. I can't wait to see what he does next. I, and billions of people, will benefit from his future work- it's going to be simply incredible. Thank you…

— Eric Schmidt (@ericschmidt) November 17, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 17 November 2023 23:59 (seven months ago) link

this is it i found the ultimate tech sycophant tweet shut it down twitter has served its purpose

"I can't wait to see what he does NEXT" pic.twitter.com/0tDVw6hkC5

— Dogan Ural (@doganuraldesign) November 17, 2023

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link

This thread is going to need a content warning if this turns out to be something to do with his family

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:10 (seven months ago) link

yeah, not great

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:19 (seven months ago) link

but dont worry hackernews has it all logiced out

baidifnaoxi 1 hour ago | prev | next [–]

- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently
- Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity

- They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying”

The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fireable offense that warrants this language.

My bet: Sam initiated some commercial agreement (like a sale) to an entity that would have violated the “open” nature of the company. Likely he pursued a sale to Microsoft without the board knowing.

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:23 (seven months ago) link

MUCH more differently. It’s obvious!

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:32 (seven months ago) link

top comment from the message board for mind geniuses

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:48 (seven months ago) link

He covered up a love affair.. with the machine his company built. It’s like the dad in edward scissorhands, that kind of thing.

treeship., Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:51 (seven months ago) link

Don’t ask me how I know

treeship., Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:52 (seven months ago) link

it was probably in second 10 to 12 of the endless "evil cackle in the boardroom laugh", that's when people must decide they're in or out

i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:55 (seven months ago) link

i'd watch this movie. actually probably not but i'd read a review about it.

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:58 (seven months ago) link

a lowercase with full punctuation man i see

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/tweet-from-brockman.jpg

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 01:13 (seven months ago) link

abysmal real names

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 18 November 2023 01:25 (seven months ago) link

yeah the name generator is stuck around 0.5

i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 18 November 2023 01:46 (seven months ago) link

will be funny if this is all over some beef with the non profitness of the company, why did they make it non profit bunch of shitty industrialists

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 01:48 (seven months ago) link

"I can't wait to see what he does NEXT"

Shouldn't that be NeXT?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 18 November 2023 01:50 (seven months ago) link

that is true, these tech fanboys need to get their act together

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 02:21 (seven months ago) link

Scoop: There are about to be a lot more major departures of top folks at @OpenAI tonight and I assume Altman will make a statement tonight. But, as I understand it, it was a “misalignment” of the profit versus nonprofit adherents at the company. The developer day was an issue. https://t.co/eIE4zctv4X

— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) November 18, 2023


Sources tell me that the profit direction of the company under Altman and the speed of development, which could be seen as too risky, and the nonprofit side dedicated to more safety and caution were at odds. One person on the Sam side called it a “coup,” while another said it was…

— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) November 18, 2023


If I’m Microsoft and my $10 billion investment just got nuked because of EA cranks I would seriously consider hiring a hit squad

— Quantian (@quantian1) November 18, 2023

if this is an EA thing then lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:04 (seven months ago) link

personally i wouldnt give billions of dollars to people who think scifi is real life

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:07 (seven months ago) link

It was an EA coop. Nevertheless, Sam sucks and Greg sucks. Good riddance.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:25 (seven months ago) link

s/coop/coup

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:26 (seven months ago) link

very interesting that ned exposes quora christian infant viral internet to bluesky and suddenly sam altman steps down

I was merely the harbringer.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:32 (seven months ago) link

Wait, EA as in Electronic Arts or Effective Altruism?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:40 (seven months ago) link

the latter

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:54 (seven months ago) link

No the former

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 November 2023 05:11 (seven months ago) link

chatgpt will now speak in the voice of john madden

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 05:22 (seven months ago) link

boom! He’ll feel that one tomorrow!
- chatgpt

Clay, Saturday, 18 November 2023 05:34 (seven months ago) link

I have been following OpenAI and Sam Altman closely, and this is the first time I have heard about the Anne Altman allegations. pic.twitter.com/WUHp03HEEE

— Sharon Adarlo (@sadarlo1) November 18, 2023

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 18 November 2023 11:53 (seven months ago) link

if theres not another shoe to drop its very funny to sabotage the hottest tech start up out of concern for the future of artificial intelligence which is not a real thing

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 17:40 (seven months ago) link

artificial intelligence which is not a real thing

One would think so, but....

Insert "fake is the new real" joke or an even lamer "I want to post about this but first I need to select all the pictures that include a school bus" joke

Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 November 2023 17:55 (seven months ago) link

https://archive.li/HE4Aw

seems to have the most deets so far

, Saturday, 18 November 2023 18:33 (seven months ago) link

might just be first-name based solidarity but i’ve always had a softspot for sam

not clear if the ai security stuff is reference to the eliezer yudkowsky style world destroying ai supervillain or more mundane like gpt5 is way better at enabling fraud etc. but if it’s the former i’m pretty excited for gpt5

flopson, Saturday, 18 November 2023 20:37 (seven months ago) link

this link https://archive.li/HE4Aw doesn't seem to be active for me

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 18 November 2023 20:42 (seven months ago) link

unusually acrimonious way to fire a big name ceo over what seems like a strategic disagreement, but i guess we havent heard how he was misleading the board

maybe has something to do with not wanting to deal with saudi

Alongside rifts over strategy, board members also contended with Altman’s entrepreneurial ambitions. Altman has been looking to raise tens of billions of dollars from Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds to create an AI chip startup to compete with processors made by Nvidia Corp.
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Sutskever and his allies on the OpenAI board chafed at Altman’s efforts to raise funds off of OpenAI’s name, and they harbored concerns that the new businesses might not share the same governance model as OpenAI, the person said.

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 21:47 (seven months ago) link

btw startup app guy thinking hes going to make a chip company doesnt sound too promising

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 21:48 (seven months ago) link

read some thing about him leaving ycombinator and it was the polar opposite of this they fired him but did it in such a way that the media didnt even realized itd happened, saying that he was switching from ceo to chairman and then that he was advising when really none of that happened he just stopped working there, thats two pretty big firings and he wasnt ceo at either place super long

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 November 2023 21:51 (seven months ago) link

link?

, Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:14 (seven months ago) link

akm it's this article

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-altman-ouster-followed-debates-between-altman-board

A month ago, Sutskever’s responsibilities at the company were reduced, reflecting friction between him and Altman and Brockman. Sutskever later appealed to the board, winning over some members, including Helen Toner, the director of strategy at Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology.

, Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:15 (seven months ago) link

Seeing some new rumors popping up now. Apparently Microsoft was blindsided and is very displeased with the firing, and now OpenAI might be trying to get Altman back.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:56 (seven months ago) link

This is a guy who started a foursquare clone that had such a successful exit its investors received the same rate of return that you could have beaten with an index tracker. As far as I can tell this is the only accomplishment attributable solely to him. If a goober like this successfully starts a competitor to OpenAI and Anthropic then no one has a moat.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 November 2023 23:34 (seven months ago) link


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