That was a very enjoyable watch, no idea what was going on for the most part.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 18 November 2023 12:54 (ten months ago) link
famously, neither did the cast and crew
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 18 November 2023 13:18 (ten months ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Notorious_%281946_film_poster%29.jpg
Notorious, Alfred Hitchcock, 1946
Morbsies #52Sight & Sound Critics #133
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:53 (ten months ago) link
never been able to watch it. i think its a very badly directed and acted movie.
i expect this not to be the consensus
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 November 2023 23:14 (ten months ago) link
Whole thing is on youtube here
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 18 November 2023 23:16 (ten months ago) link
never been able to watch it. i think its a very badly directed and acted movie
challops of all challops
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 November 2023 23:19 (ten months ago) link
Probably Hitch's best film, Cary Grant's best "dark" performance, the thing is an expertly wound clock.
That's a silly thing to say, but it is good
― plax (ico), Sunday, 19 November 2023 00:06 (ten months ago) link
Claude Rains is great too!
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 November 2023 00:19 (ten months ago) link
Louis Calhern okay too but a standard performance. Anyway the whole thing is on the vector that leads through Vertigo to Marnie of the crepey male lead but with 40s glamour to boot.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 November 2023 00:22 (ten months ago) link
I enjoyed Evil (OR IS HE?) Cary Grant in Suspicion, though the film itself was definitely c-tier Hitchcock at best.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 November 2023 13:21 (ten months ago) link
Y’all with these Hitchcock tiers now.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 November 2023 20:18 (ten months ago) link
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― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Monday, 20 November 2023 20:23 (ten months ago) link
film fans otm
― ciderpress, Monday, 20 November 2023 20:35 (ten months ago) link
Meh, swap out Dial M for Murder for any one of the four on the other side, but probably most especially The Birds or Shadow of a Doubt.
― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Monday, 20 November 2023 20:45 (ten months ago) link
Rope? Rebecca?
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 November 2023 21:09 (ten months ago) link
George Sanders is turning over in his grave.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 November 2023 21:10 (ten months ago) link
To catch a thief is basically unwatchable
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 11:47 (ten months ago) link
I like all the Bergman ones, including under Capricorn which is a deeply weird film but not like his terrible weird films like the trouble with Harry
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 11:52 (ten months ago) link
Re what someone said earlier , yes Hitchcock is very tiered.
Marnie is only okay. Psycho beats vertigo for me, but mainly for the first section before she arrives at the motel. So lurid! the way the camera follows Leigh around in her sweater is obscene! I also think Perkins is so sweet in it. ('I'd love a sandwich!' - me.)
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 11:59 (ten months ago) link
Vertigo score is the best and the moments of abstraction keep their strangeness while the tricks in e.g. rear window wear off after a few watches
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 12:00 (ten months ago) link
Rear window is fun to watch with people who've only seen cartoon parodies that only follow the plot until the first big twist.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 12:01 (ten months ago) link
The Simpsons ep that is based on Rear Window is just as good as the film
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 12:08 (ten months ago) link
It's a nice foreign holiday for two hours, and I like the Franju-esque cat burglar stuff at the end.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:49 (ten months ago) link
TCAT is minor Hitchcock, but it moves and doesn't waste time. Before you make claims about unwatchable try watching Jamaica Inn, The Paradine Case, I Confess, or Topaz.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:54 (ten months ago) link
LOL I Confess at least has a far from unwatchable Monty, and Jamaica Inn has Laughton, likewise. I know it has its admirers, but Under Capricorn is the unwatchable one for me, in part because it seems to have fallen out of copyright so there are no decent restorations of it on physical media.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:58 (ten months ago) link
Have read back, I now know Under Capricorn it has its admirers including plax
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link
I find Marnie ponderous and deeply stupid but I'm in the minority.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link
I'm sure I floated the idea on here somewhere that Marnie is Hitchcock's Giallo, and I'm sticking with that.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:02 (ten months ago) link
Glad we're all discussing every Hitchcock except the one just posted :)
― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:09 (ten months ago) link
The only thing anyone remembers about To Catch a Thief (and why it scores highly on general public) is the fireworks kiss
― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link
Late to this but plax talking truth
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link
hitchcock shd make a movie abt whoever designed that unreadable square venn diagram
― mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:13 (ten months ago) link
I think I like *I Confess* more because of the Canadian (?) flick that metaed it in the late 80s
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:17 (ten months ago) link
There's a lot of Hitchcockian joy in random misfires tho, The Wrong Man is really good
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link
whoever designed that unreadable square venn diagram
Saul Bass
Canadian (?) flick
Le Confessionnal), taking advantage of I Confess having been shot in Québec.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:19 (ten months ago) link
Good shout ta
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:21 (ten months ago) link
TCAT is v watchable but plax wrong is better than many right
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:23 (ten months ago) link
The sexiest and best scene in To Catch a Thief is when Grant swims out to the float to talk to Brigitte Auber, and then Grace Kelly swims out to join them
Just saw Dial M for Muder with 3-D glasses and there is really no good reason for that film to be in 3-D. One single effect in the big violent scene scene stays with me. If anything the 3-D makes Hitchcock's rear projection shots look worse.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:28 (ten months ago) link
Dial M just happened to be unluckily made in the first wave of trying to make 3D happen yeah?
I think I'd still argue that Gravity is the only 3D movie that uses it and transcends gimmickry
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:34 (ten months ago) link
I'd say Herzog's documentary Cave of Forgotten Dreams.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:35 (ten months ago) link
Cool I shd see that then
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:36 (ten months ago) link
xps Yeah and I think Dial M was rarely actually shown in 3-D when it was released, most theaters choosing to show the flat version of it.
But I've seen '50s films that do use 3-D very effectively, such as Creature from the Black Lagoon and Kiss Me Kate.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:37 (ten months ago) link
Foster Hirsch's new Hollywood and the Movies of the Fifties is good on the effect of 3D on production.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:39 (ten months ago) link
I just read that book and it's pretty great. Also the chapter on CinemaScope and other wide screen processes is very enlightening.
In fact that book is tied into the recent programming at the Film Forum in Manhattan where they've been showing a bunch of '50s films including 3-D ones. Hirsch has been there introducing some of the films.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:43 (ten months ago) link
I managed to miss that whole series but I did see Dial M for Murder in 3D back in the 80s at the 8th Street Playhouse, I think. The scissors are the only 3D that I remember.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:50 (ten months ago) link
yep the hand reaching out and the scissors is that one effect I was referring to
― Josefa, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:52 (ten months ago) link
Also saw the 3D Dial M for Murder in the 1980s, w/ red and green glasses.
House of Wax has good gimmicky 3D effects.
Godard's Goodbye to Language has the most woozily disorientating use of the 'modern' 3D process I've ever seen.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:36 (ten months ago) link
Glad we're all discussing every Hitchcock _except_ the one just posted :)
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link
I’m a big fan of Notorious, don’t know what to say about it right now. Claude Rains plays a similar kind of role in David Lean’s The Passionate Friends. Also like the way it is used in Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid. The long long shot that goes from very wide to a tight tight closeup he liked to do so much is particularly well done in the famous example here.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:42 (ten months ago) link