ILX Film Club, The (1924-2019)

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the mr gower/young george scene is so incredibly harrowing.

oscar bravo, Friday, 24 November 2023 20:16 (ten months ago) link

The looks Reed gives Stewart while she's decorating the tree and knowing the bottom has truly fallen out are among the most heartwrenching depictions of marriage I've seen, and it's maybe all of 30 seconds of screen time

active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Friday, 24 November 2023 21:51 (ten months ago) link

I've never seen it, I think the only Capra film I've ever seen that I enjoyed is the Clark gable/Claudette Colbert one. I always presumed this was one of the ones where someone makes a speech about the perseverance of the human spirit, I hate that. That said I haven't seen very much Capra, people say the silent ones are good?

plax (ico), Friday, 1 December 2023 07:02 (nine months ago) link

Hmmm, "preserverance of the human spirit" I dunno...it's about how community demands you sacrifice your dreams but maybe, just maybe, it will come through for you in exchange for that. Very bleak, which is part of why I love its x-mas film status.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 1 December 2023 08:17 (nine months ago) link

finished this last night, though I've seen it at least four times before, still a genuinely touching piece of work - the part where they lose the $8000 really grabbed me in particular, that sense of panic at having lost something important is so real to me, been there so many times, nothing quite that important of course, but can't think of any other film that evokes that feeling so well.

the restoration really brings home how carefully shot it is, no really experimental shots after the first scene, bit just beautifully put together, giving you such a sense of place.

the politics of the film are a great capsule of the time. the focus on family and community, the moral that what you're really looking for at home, it's very much a socially conservative film, especially in the scenes of Pottersville, which is supposed to be hell on earth but actually looks very cool and exactly the place I'd want to hang out if I were transported back to 1946. Jazz and jitterbugging are bad, Frank? but then on the other hand the villain of the film is a personification of robber baron capitalism, and the moral is a repudiation of him and all he stands for. you would be astonished to find someone with this mix of politics in 2023, but having listened to political debates from the 1930s I see a lot that is familiar there.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 December 2023 10:08 (nine months ago) link

I've never seen it, I think the only Capra film I've ever seen that I enjoyed is the Clark gable/Claudette Colbert one. I always presumed this was one of the ones where someone makes a speech about the perseverance of the human spirit, I hate that. That said I haven't seen very much Capra, people say the silent ones are good?

― plax (ico)

Give him a chance. Watch The Bitter Tea of General Yen, quite erotic.

i haven't watched IaWL since last year but on that last viewing i was thinking what a mature take on social relationships it has compared to most British films of that era. i definitely don't think of it as a schmalzfest

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2023 12:24 (nine months ago) link

Bitter Tea is in some ways an atypical outlier but yeah.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 December 2023 14:36 (nine months ago) link

Some of Capra's late '30s films are way kitschier and cornier than IAWL.

Mr Smith Goes to Washington is a complete cheesefest but on balance I still enjoy it.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link

One of the funniest movie montages ever, Jimmy was BEATING their asses pic.twitter.com/VzTl4sBKHn

— Ben Crew (@BenjaminCrew1) November 24, 2023

active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:10 (nine months ago) link

so much for the tolerant uh

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:31 (nine months ago) link

mr deeds is the one that maxed out my tolerance but im honestly not claiming this as *superior insight* i just didn't enjoy some and haven't prioritised seeing more when there are so many other directors who im more interested in.

plax (ico), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:40 (nine months ago) link

the focus on family and community, the moral that what you're really looking for at home

It's not like George ever gets the chance to explore the world - if he did, perhaps it wouldn't be to his liking as Pottersville isn't, but perhaps he'd love it, grow tons, end up a more rounded, satisfied person. He chooses to sacrifice all these possibilities, and his reward for this in the end is merely the knowledge that, in the event of total catastrophe, the community will rally around him. It is a remarkably austere pitch for his lifestyle, and yet not at all insincere - compare it to something like Sunrise, where the Goodness of the rural vs the urban is so much clearer.

you would be astonished to find someone with this mix of politics in 2023

regret to inform this cocktail is basically what the trad cath socialists on twitter are up to in 2023 afaict

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 1 December 2023 21:07 (nine months ago) link

The only trad cath socialists I know are members of my family, all of whom are in their 60s or older

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 December 2023 22:12 (nine months ago) link

anyway

https://i.imgur.com/oy2nS1D.jpg

Black Narcissus, Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, 1947
Morbsies #106
Sight & Sound Critics #169

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 December 2023 22:17 (nine months ago) link

Sausages!

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 December 2023 22:35 (nine months ago) link

one of my top 3 Archers, i guess, as if that meant anything. suitably gothic too

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2023 22:42 (nine months ago) link

Believe this was Jean Simmons’s follow-up role to Estella in Great Expectations. #onethread. What a one-two punch!

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 December 2023 23:28 (nine months ago) link

Guess something called Hungry Hill was in between.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 December 2023 23:30 (nine months ago) link

I could not believe this film when I saw it first! So lurid! I love it! The absolute number one sex-mad nun movie imo.

plax (ico), Saturday, 2 December 2023 00:56 (nine months ago) link

I still find it slightly odd that people were shocked by peeping Tom after this

plax (ico), Saturday, 2 December 2023 00:57 (nine months ago) link

I'm literally shocked just thinking about the scene with the lipstick. Shocked!

plax (ico), Saturday, 2 December 2023 01:06 (nine months ago) link

And stunned as well, no doubt.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 December 2023 01:56 (nine months ago) link

I still find it slightly odd that people were shocked by peeping Tom after this

― plax (ico), Saturday, 2 December 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Yes, it was there all along.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 December 2023 12:36 (nine months ago) link

le peeping Tom c'est moi

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 December 2023 12:42 (nine months ago) link

I’ve long assumed that the ending influenced Vertigo but I don’t know if Hitchcock ever said as much.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 2 December 2023 14:24 (nine months ago) link

never thought of that but very reminiscent I agree!

plax (ico), Saturday, 2 December 2023 16:47 (nine months ago) link

Whole thing is on youtube and in good quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDm7GEnhh0I

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 December 2023 22:23 (nine months ago) link

Good point about Vertigo. Never thought about it consciously but feels like I felt it before.

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 December 2023 05:17 (nine months ago) link

I recently revisited the somewhat famous exchange when Truffaut poses a question that is a variant of his “British cinema is an oxymoron” hobby horse and Hitchcock’s response is quite cagey. He sort of dances around it and doesn’t agree necessarily but he doesn’t put forth any counterexamples either.

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 December 2023 05:21 (nine months ago) link

Black Narcissus was excellent, the minor quibbles I had with Colonel Blimp and Matter of Life & Death entirely resolved, such a beautiful film, so full of unspoken subtext and ambivalence about any western morality. And astonishing what Deborah Kerr and Kathleen Byron can do with just a look.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 20:24 (nine months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gf59w9k.png

Bicycle Thieves, Vittorio De Sica, 1948

Morbsies #200
Sight & Sound Critics #41
Sight & Sound Directors #20

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 December 2023 12:27 (nine months ago) link

stressful

plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 12:30 (nine months ago) link

not bad iirc

Love it. One of the greatest for a good reason.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:45 (nine months ago) link

I owe it a rewatch, but there are so many Rossellini movies I still would rather see first

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 15:47 (nine months ago) link

i don't really get it. the moral circle is too neat and i would prefer to watch literally any rossellini movie but also i want him to get the bike back.

plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 15:57 (nine months ago) link

The Bergman collaborations were eye-openers for me about a decade ago, so it's hard for me to return to what was for decades readily available.

I liked this film a lot better when I saw the original ending, where he and his son team up to burn down the entire neighbourhood of the real bicycle thief.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 15 December 2023 16:22 (nine months ago) link

No need to critique Bicycle Thieves in comparison to Rossellini. Italian neo-realism has stood up v well.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 December 2023 12:08 (nine months ago) link

I watched:

Napoleon (Gance, 1927)
Daughters of the Dust (Dash, 1991) - find that early 90s soundtrack score has dated badly but otherwise there are some beautiful images. This was through MUBI so needs a proper big screen watch.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 December 2023 12:12 (nine months ago) link

The best observation in Mark Cousins’ History of Cinema series is when he points out a moment in the Bicycle Thieves where the little boy nearly gets run over while crossing a busy road - you don’t get much more realist than that, but De Sica doesn’t make a big deal of such a happy near accident.

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 16 December 2023 13:27 (nine months ago) link

not making a big deal out of almost getting run over is the minimum bar for realism if a movie's supposed to be set in Rome

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 December 2023 16:02 (nine months ago) link

Paris, Texas (Wenders, 1984). Pretty successful translation of his road movie schtick to the US, with an excellent cast and score.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 December 2023 15:32 (eight months ago) link

Let's get this restarted

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:54 (eight months ago) link

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/617LG8aPc2L._AC_SX522_.jpg

The Red Shoes, Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, 1948
Morbsies #282
Sight & Sound Critics #67
Sight & Sound Directors #72

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:57 (eight months ago) link

Love it, tho I haven't seen it in years. Not my favorite Archers film — a bit portentous iirc — but beautiful to watch.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:22 (eight months ago) link

Haven't seen it yet but it was the favourite film of a prick I used to share a house with, called Jacques. Will try not to hold this against it.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:26 (eight months ago) link

Not my favorite Archers film — a bit portentous iirc

That's my conclusion

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:28 (eight months ago) link


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