lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 19:54 (one year ago)
basically in the future, every office job is going to be some form of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_engineering
― silverfish, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:37 (one year ago)
what if roko's basilisk but hott
― mark s, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:48 (one year ago)
"Feeding in requirements and having the AI tool fill out the templates"
In my experience filling out templates once you know the exact requirements is potentially the easy bit.
Having an Analyst do the work of eliciting requirements and then making it make sense is harder.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:24 (one year ago)
which is precisely the problem, yep. my old job was Requirements Analyst, and I was essentially doing what AI would now be doing - taking what they wrote and putting it into training and reference materials, and some of the requirements writers were excellent, but some would either leave out major details, write contradictory things on the same page, or write in a confusing way that I'd have to schedule follow-up meetings to ask a litany of questions.
even doing that, we'd still have a lengthy peer review where it'd come out that certain things were wrong in my materials due to faulty information in the source.
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:28 (one year ago)
Yup, it's a job for a reason.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:37 (one year ago)
i enjoyed being a Requirements Analyst despite the challenges, would probably go back to it if the job didn't also come with a slew of other things I refuse to do again, such as deal with external clients.
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 November 2023 22:12 (one year ago)
I enjoyed this article by Charlie Stross - a lot the thoughts in it have been said already on this thread, but it's good at gathering and topping and tailing them. https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/11/dont-create-the-torment-nexus.html
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 30 November 2023 23:47 (one year ago)
Uber Eats is using AI for pictures of food. It doesn’t know that “pie” means pizza, and it invented a brand of ranch dressing called “Lelnach” pic.twitter.com/raFZArsERN— Listen to Online Boy on Spotify or else (threat) (@realonlineboy) November 30, 2023
― 龜, Friday, 1 December 2023 15:30 (one year ago)
I believe Lelnach was a disciple of Yog-Sothoth.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:58 (one year ago)
is Turbotax ai for filing yoru taxes
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 1 December 2023 16:00 (one year ago)
I believe Lelnach was a disciple of Yog-Sothoth.― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR)
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR)
alf's home planet, but close
there's a lovecraftian take on the alf mythos out there somewhere, isn't there? don't tell me if there is, i don't want to know
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:19 (one year ago)
im fiending for that lelanch bro
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:44 (one year ago)
Bruce Lelanch
― the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:01 (one year ago)
Lelanch and Stit
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:02 (one year ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-QYzag1OHkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui-xmQuEARghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EEaDyyW_XMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV8bCob9rbAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOa1GgV0Irc
― z_tbd, Monday, 4 December 2023 03:22 (one year ago)
there are dozens more! what's crazy is the view counts (although maybe those are also bots?). quite a few people in the comments have a negative reaction, but afaict none of them understand they're watching ai content.
― z_tbd, Monday, 4 December 2023 03:25 (one year ago)
what's also crazy is how sad all these living legends are! cheer up macca
― z_tbd, Monday, 4 December 2023 03:29 (one year ago)
Barbra Walters is now 13,000 years old and eats robotic tomato everydat
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 4 December 2023 13:28 (one year ago)
art of icial intelligence
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:44 (one year ago)
are we listing b-tier public enemy albums now?
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:05 (one year ago)
quite a few people in the comments have a negative reaction, but afaict none of them understand they're watching ai content.
a lot of those comments look like they were written by AI as well
― frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:08 (one year ago)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, December 4, 2023 11:05 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Art_Official_Intelligence_Mosaic_Thump.jpg
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:10 (one year ago)
lol oh yeah
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:43 (one year ago)
wtf tangent for Lee Atwater in the chuck norris one - did not expect to see DUkakis in a Chuk Norris ai - bio
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:55 (one year ago)
---a lot of those comments look like they were written by AI as well
― frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Indeed. Plenty of things are both AI generated and AI bot consumed, almost like in a loop?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:08 (one year ago)
If you believe plenty of human beings don't have the critical faculties to distinguish AI from human then are you saying? What's the need to prove this coming from?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:11 (one year ago)
― xyzzzz__, Monday, December 4, 2023 1:08 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah good for ad fraud which needless to say is a huge industry
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:13 (one year ago)
xp is that one for me?
i just think it's worth pointing out that it is happening in the first place -- increasing waves of online content being generated by AI but being close enough to real that it appears that many people (if not most? i'm sure someone will provide the answer) are "fooled" by it, or at least don't seem to register much of a reaction to viewing it.
and then, of course, there are many people (if not most? shit, i don't know) who are not "fooled" by it, and kind of think it's ridiculous that anyone else does. i can see that perspective, i guess, but personally i think it's likely that ai-generated content will just continue to get better. i don't think it'll get worse at what it's doing. i do think that the ai generation/bot/content loop cycle is probably going to lead to weird and hopefully hilarious results, too! but in general i think in a year the ai-content will be less noticeable, not more noticeable. i could be wrong (i'm sure i am and will find out so soon!!!), and maybe as more ai content floods the digital zone, we'll get better at immediately recognizing it.
another possibility that rotates around me being entirely wrong: it's just me getting served a bunch of ai-content ads, more than most people, and the reason is that i click on them and then share my opinions about it with people on the internet, which always makes me feel great about myself afterward, so the ad trackers justifiably conclude that i would like to be shown more ai-content
― z_tbd, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:23 (one year ago)
personally i think it's likely that ai-generated content will just continue to get better. i don't think it'll get worse at what it's doing.
in the long run you're probably right but right now the AI degradation feedback loop is looking like a real thing. like the other side of this is that AI needs to figure out how to not get fooled by *itself*, since there is a massive amount of AI-generated content out there right now and if that stuff starts getting sorted into the training data not only is it gonna get more things wrong it'll also become fairly clear what sort of prose is generated by it
― frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:31 (one year ago)
Yeah it was and thanks for answering z_tbd. Just wanted something more of a higher level thought on where you (or others too) were at with this.
Because I look and think that AI will if anything degrade unless it's continuously looked after by human labour.
Ultimately I think a lot of it will go down the route of crypto once it doesn't make enough in terms of returns xp
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:32 (one year ago)
to lead to weird and hopefully hilarious results, too! but in general
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:32 (one year ago)
anyway to look at some of the comments on that Dylan video:
I would say his life is truly fulfilled through his music. He has been successful through many genres and has a wide audience appeal in many countries. I like his early folk music for its exquisite poetry, and his later rockabilly music, especially when backed by The Band. That collaboration set the stage for many artists to come to prominence in rock, country western and blues.
He's lived a life most men can only wish they have lived. God bless hie still going strong at 82 years old, I think it's because he embraces change. There's no one like him in music .
Dylan is the Greatest Living Artist, and how fortunate we are to be alive to appreciate him.
Sad to see this happening to such a great artist and song writer. Great to see he is still with us though.!!!!!!
could be AI generated, could just be a bunch of Jims, or maybe people without a great grasp of English, hard to tell
― frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:35 (one year ago)
the number of exclamation points is the tell, man, it’s always the tell!! <<< restraint the algorithm do not know
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:39 (one year ago)
the number of exclamation points is the tell, man, it’s always the tell!!
but see, there's that, then there's the reality of emailing/texting with older relatives. some people are just ALONG FOR THE RIDE!!!!
― z_tbd, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:54 (one year ago)
the period right before the exclamation points actually makes me think this was written by a human
― silverfish, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:57 (one year ago)
this might be a dumb question, but why are bots commenting on videos and articles? who is directing them to do this and why don't they get caught by captchas and whatever?
― treeship., Monday, 4 December 2023 18:57 (one year ago)
I'm guessing more comments affects the algorithms which push those videos or articles, which ultimately results in more ad revenue. Just a guess, I know basically nothing about how this stuff actually works.
― silverfish, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:59 (one year ago)
That's my small understanding of it too.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:01 (one year ago)
hm, i wonder how they program that. seems like an easy living if you can get it.
― treeship., Monday, 4 December 2023 19:03 (one year ago)
It feels like the whole internet is reaching a point with AI bots similar to the relationship between Microsoft operating systems and viruses, telephones and robocalls, or Facebook and fascist memes.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 4 December 2023 19:05 (one year ago)
its probably pretty hard fwiw because theres a lot of effort being put in to stopping it xp
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:07 (one year ago)
obvs not impossible tho, some estimates half of all ad revenue is fraud lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:08 (one year ago)
the challenge isn’t making a bot, it’s running them in a way to avoid ban filters. you see those pictures of spam/comment factories where there are hundreds of burner phones stuck to a wall, all being coordinated by a script
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 4 December 2023 19:11 (one year ago)
yup
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:15 (one year ago)
i bet if one were enterprising and really got to know the marketplaces for the various pieces necessary to put an ad fraud business together they could prob do it without too much technical ability, then of course you would be committing a felony, maybe ok if you live in russia
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:17 (one year ago)
maybe in the future you will be able to ask an ai "please do fraud for me" and the police will come directly to your home
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:27 (one year ago)
it's the ads that are the real fraud if you ask me!
― rob, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:34 (one year ago)
much to think about
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:34 (one year ago)
you see those pictures of spam/comment factories where there are hundreds of burner phones stuck to a wall, all being coordinated by a script
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, December 4, 2023 2:11 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
wonder how they spoof the ip addresses, global botnet?
― lag∞n, Monday, 4 December 2023 19:39 (one year ago)