"thank you for providing me with the requested details and being so thorough. This was very much appreciated.
Hope your family is run over by a train,
Neanderthal"
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:29 (eleven months ago) link
I hope we can all agree that saying "Have a good day" or 'Have a good evening", or whatever, is one Americanism we could do without.
I didn't know this was an Americanism. My colleagues in the UK and Australia say "have a good one." What's so wrong with it?
― c u (crüt), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:34 (eleven months ago) link
I always wonder what the one is.
― peace, man, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:36 (eleven months ago) link
orgasm
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:50 (eleven months ago) link
"have a shit"
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:51 (eleven months ago) link
“have a blessed good one”
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:07 (eleven months ago) link
Sometimes, "How would you like to proceed?" Or "What would you like to have happen?"
OK, now who's slipping sex-worker talk into non-sex-worker contexts?
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:17 (eleven months ago) link
"Have a good one" is vague enough not to be irritating. "Have a good day" seems kind of personal and intrusive to me, I automatically think, "What the fuck has my day got to do with you? And, frankly, who the fuck are you?"
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:18 (eleven months ago) link
i like it when people are polite to me
― budo jeru, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:18 (eleven months ago) link
I’ve heard ppl complain about it, I must admit I don’t see how it’s different from saying “good morning” eg
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:18 (eleven months ago) link
we can safely assume it's a callback to "have a better one" from Blade Runner
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:19 (eleven months ago) link
"Have a good one" is very big in Montana. I say it every time I pay at the bodega (actually a gas station convenience store; I think if they heard me call it a bodega, a whole other conversation would ensue).
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:19 (eleven months ago) link
Well, "good morning" is a greeting for a start.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:21 (eleven months ago) link
don't "have a good one" and "have a good day" mean literally the same thing?
― c u (crüt), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:24 (eleven months ago) link
Not necessarily.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:25 (eleven months ago) link
Anyway can't two phrases mean the same thing and one be preferable to the other?
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:26 (eleven months ago) link
By the way I'm talking from the viewpoint of someone working in the service sector, not someone using the service sector.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:30 (eleven months ago) link
Budo otm
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:47 (eleven months ago) link
“take care” y/n
― brimstead, Monday, 4 December 2023 17:14 (eleven months ago) link
"thank you for providing me the information I requested. I literally do not care what happens to you after this conversation"
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:18 (eleven months ago) link
If wishing someone a good whatever is objectionable per se it should also be objectionable as a greeting
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:20 (eleven months ago) link
I'm sure this has been thrashed out here before. The history of this phrase and its use was that circa 1972 some mega-enormous corporate entity (I forget which) began requiring its retail employees to end all transactions with customers by saying "have a nice day" or else face termination. Their employees' union objected strenuously, not because the phrase was objectionable, but the corporation was treating its employees as automatons and transactions with customers as assembly line products, hence dehumanizing the whole interaction. The issue made the national broadcast news and it prompted a huge amount of social chatter similar to the present discussion on this thread.
btw, the corporation won the battle and very soon most other retailers followed the same path. You couldn't visit a store without being wished a nice day, over and over. Through endless repetition it became lodged in the national psyche and normalized into an "americanism".
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:49 (eleven months ago) link
"gotcha"
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:52 (eleven months ago) link
Maybe just go back to 1991 when the only accepted greeting was:
'Sup?
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:08 (eleven months ago) link
Getting silly now.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link
When you say "good morning" are you actually wishing someone a good morning? Or are you just saying hello?
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:13 (eleven months ago) link
Either you’re actually wishing someone a good morning (obviously fine) or, as you suggest, it’s a meaningless but benign social custom that you needn’t find offensively presumptuous (also obviously fine), it’s much like “have a good day” in this way
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link
"you are welcome to have the quality of day you wish, I do not seek to impose my values upon you,
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link
this conversation is insane, but I concede that some of you definitely are not having a good one
― rob, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:23 (eleven months ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phatic_expression
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:23 (eleven months ago) link
"Good morning" doesn't make me cringe, so there's a difference. Greetings aren't really meaningless are they?
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:28 (eleven months ago) link
And even if they are, they're useful.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:29 (eleven months ago) link
F hazel, don't phat-shame us
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:30 (eleven months ago) link
don't make me tap the signifier
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:32 (eleven months ago) link
Now you all need to go shopping in France.
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:33 (eleven months ago) link
lol fh delivers as usualGreetings do serve a purpose, they are a subcategory of phatic expression!
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:34 (eleven months ago) link
passe un bon un
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:36 (eleven months ago) link
i sort of agree with tom d about "have a good day." you can say it with an edge. i think that says something about the phrase.
i like a "take care" in the right moment, and i often sign my emails with "best," cuz i'm a live laugh love / wine mom kinda guy.
― ꙮ (map), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:43 (eleven months ago) link
I work in customer service.
― c u (crüt), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:44 (eleven months ago) link
I use the “cheers” signoff with gleeful incontinence
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:45 (eleven months ago) link
Just decided early on I would be a cheers guy and never looked back
better than using the cheers signoff with fecal incontinence at least
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:46 (eleven months ago) link
talking to people is hard enough without the ILX vibe police telling me the way I talk is annoying so I'm just going to ignore everything in this thread
― c u (crüt), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:46 (eleven months ago) link
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Monday, December 4, 2023 6:45 PM (forty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
i use "cheers" from time to time, a throwback to my wannabe anglophile youth
― ꙮ (map), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:47 (eleven months ago) link
I think in British English one can say "good morning" in a way that means "goodbye, you are dismissed, and get out of my office and also fuck off and possibly die."
That is not an American usage. In the US we only use it as an initial greeting.
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:47 (eleven months ago) link
idk I lay on the "have a great rest of your day" thick mostly because I was a prickly asshole when I was initially promoted to a manager back in 2006 and had a big desire to atone for that as I got older and realized what an asshole I had become. I wanted to become a more approachable person, so greetings and goodbyes like that entered my vernacular because they at least gave the impression that I'm a friendlier person now and not going to bite their head off for unnecessarily hostile reasons anymore.
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:49 (eleven months ago) link
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, December 4, 2023 1:47 PM bookmarkflaglink
this was one of the central plot points of that Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds Christmas movie from last year iirc
So do I and you're completely misunderstanding my point. I don't hate if someone in customer service says it to me, I don't even notice it tbh, I hate when a "customer" says it to me.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:54 (eleven months ago) link
A simple "Thanks" is all I need.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:55 (eleven months ago) link
Also it sounds stupid when British people say it!
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:59 (eleven months ago) link