Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

lol oh yeah

wtf tangent for Lee Atwater in the chuck norris one - did not expect to see DUkakis in a Chuk Norris ai - bio

quite a few people in the comments have a negative reaction, but afaict none of them understand they're watching ai content.

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a lot of those comments look like they were written by AI as well

― frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Indeed. Plenty of things are both AI generated and AI bot consumed, almost like in a loop?

If you believe plenty of human beings don't have the critical faculties to distinguish AI from human then are you saying? What's the need to prove this coming from?

Indeed. Plenty of things are both AI generated and AI bot consumed, almost like in a loop?

― xyzzzz__, Monday, December 4, 2023 1:08 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah good for ad fraud which needless to say is a huge industry

xp is that one for me?

i just think it's worth pointing out that it is happening in the first place -- increasing waves of online content being generated by AI but being close enough to real that it appears that many people (if not most? i'm sure someone will provide the answer) are "fooled" by it, or at least don't seem to register much of a reaction to viewing it.

and then, of course, there are many people (if not most? shit, i don't know) who are not "fooled" by it, and kind of think it's ridiculous that anyone else does. i can see that perspective, i guess, but personally i think it's likely that ai-generated content will just continue to get better. i don't think it'll get worse at what it's doing. i do think that the ai generation/bot/content loop cycle is probably going to lead to weird and hopefully hilarious results, too! but in general i think in a year the ai-content will be less noticeable, not more noticeable. i could be wrong (i'm sure i am and will find out so soon!!!), and maybe as more ai content floods the digital zone, we'll get better at immediately recognizing it.

another possibility that rotates around me being entirely wrong: it's just me getting served a bunch of ai-content ads, more than most people, and the reason is that i click on them and then share my opinions about it with people on the internet, which always makes me feel great about myself afterward, so the ad trackers justifiably conclude that i would like to be shown more ai-content

personally i think it's likely that ai-generated content will just continue to get better. i don't think it'll get worse at what it's doing.

in the long run you're probably right but right now the AI degradation feedback loop is looking like a real thing. like the other side of this is that AI needs to figure out how to not get fooled by *itself*, since there is a massive amount of AI-generated content out there right now and if that stuff starts getting sorted into the training data not only is it gonna get more things wrong it'll also become fairly clear what sort of prose is generated by it

Yeah it was and thanks for answering z_tbd. Just wanted something more of a higher level thought on where you (or others too) were at with this.

Because I look and think that AI will if anything degrade unless it's continuously looked after by human labour.

Ultimately I think a lot of it will go down the route of crypto once it doesn't make enough in terms of returns xp

to lead to weird and hopefully hilarious results, too! but in general

anyway to look at some of the comments on that Dylan video:

I would say his life is truly fulfilled through his music. He has been successful through many genres and has a wide audience appeal in many countries. I like his early folk music for its exquisite poetry, and his later rockabilly music, especially when backed by The Band. That collaboration set the stage for many artists to come to prominence in rock, country western and blues.

He's lived a life most men can only wish they have lived. God bless hie still going strong at 82 years old, I think it's because he embraces change. There's no one like him in music .

Dylan is the Greatest Living Artist, and how fortunate we are to be alive to appreciate him.

Sad to see this happening to such a great artist and song writer. Great to see he is still with us though.!!!!!!

could be AI generated, could just be a bunch of Jims, or maybe people without a great grasp of English, hard to tell

the number of exclamation points is the tell, man, it’s always the tell!! <<< restraint the algorithm do not know

the number of exclamation points is the tell, man, it’s always the tell!!

but see, there's that, then there's the reality of emailing/texting with older relatives. some people are just ALONG FOR THE RIDE!!!!

the period right before the exclamation points actually makes me think this was written by a human

this might be a dumb question, but why are bots commenting on videos and articles? who is directing them to do this and why don't they get caught by captchas and whatever?

I'm guessing more comments affects the algorithms which push those videos or articles, which ultimately results in more ad revenue. Just a guess, I know basically nothing about how this stuff actually works.

That's my small understanding of it too.

hm, i wonder how they program that. seems like an easy living if you can get it.

It feels like the whole internet is reaching a point with AI bots similar to the relationship between Microsoft operating systems and viruses, telephones and robocalls, or Facebook and fascist memes.

its probably pretty hard fwiw because theres a lot of effort being put in to stopping it xp

obvs not impossible tho, some estimates half of all ad revenue is fraud lol

the challenge isn’t making a bot, it’s running them in a way to avoid ban filters. you see those pictures of spam/comment factories where there are hundreds of burner phones stuck to a wall, all being coordinated by a script

yup

i bet if one were enterprising and really got to know the marketplaces for the various pieces necessary to put an ad fraud business together they could prob do it without too much technical ability, then of course you would be committing a felony, maybe ok if you live in russia

maybe in the future you will be able to ask an ai "please do fraud for me" and the police will come directly to your home

it's the ads that are the real fraud if you ask me!

much to think about

you see those pictures of spam/comment factories where there are hundreds of burner phones stuck to a wall, all being coordinated by a script

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, December 4, 2023 2:11 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wonder how they spoof the ip addresses, global botnet?

the period right before the exclamation points actually makes me think this was written by a human

― silverfish, Monday, December 4, 2023 12:57 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah I thought that too though who knows if it's trained on YouTube comments then the AI might start doing it too. that said I guess the sort of person who would actually watch and comment on a video like this must be pretty weird to begin with

^^ very otm lol

I wonder what it will be like when the audience ofr all internet things is comprised of bots and ai things - will we still love all the likes and attention?

honestly i think people will continue to make a version of the fundamental attribution error - we, as individuals, will tend to think that we know more than average, believing that our own misfortunes are caused by circumstances outside of our control, while attributing the misfortunes of other people to some sort of flaw in their ability to detect bullshit

i of course am on the holy level of fundamental attribution error where i stand in the clouds and shoot lasers at people with my fingertips, pew pew

rude

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Another one for the "these guys are lame" file

Forbes has learned that Guillaume Verdon, the founder of stealth AI startup Extropic and a former Google engineer, is behind the provocative Twitter account leading the “effective accelerationism” movement sweeping Silicon Valley.

Andreessen Horowitz cofounder Marc Andreessen says @BasedBeffJezos is a “patron saint of techno-optimism.” Garry Tan, who cofounded the venture firm Initialized Capital before becoming CEO of Y Combinator, calls him “brother.” Sam Altman, who founded OpenAI — the company that finally mainstreamed artificial intelligence — has jokingly sparred with him on Twitter. Elon Musk says his memes are “🔥🔥🔥.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2023/12/01/who-is-basedbeffjezos-the-leader-of-effective-accelerationism-eacc

woims as experiences and opportunities

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Samantha Lee right on top of it.

excuse me, i'm looking for a hidden hiking trail, known only to locals. but i only have this jar of woims. will someone trade me a guided tour for the woims?

yes

lmao

That is incredible

https://www.ownyourownfuture.com/they-pay-me-in-woims/

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samantha's website also has a parent's guide. i think i will use this as a resource for raising my children.

https://www.ownyourownfuture.com/high-school-parents-guide/

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samantha is so inspiring

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they pay in woims unfortunately. i worked there a few summers ago.

leave a big handful of gross wriggly worms as a tip at chilis the servers love it