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at least nobody on this website has ever called me "kind stranger"

budo jeru, Thursday, 7 December 2023 15:31 (eleven months ago) link

a fascist gnome

Terrible Bowie deep cut

The Ned Wedding (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 7 December 2023 15:36 (eleven months ago) link

terrible bowie era tbf

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2023 15:47 (eleven months ago) link

i do not think we need any more discourse where a fascist gnome says something and someone is like “i agree with what he’s saying but not for the reasons he’s saying it”


if this is directed at me, meh— it ended up in an interesting conversation.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 7 December 2023 16:54 (eleven months ago) link

T is more of a pixie than a gnome fwiw

sarahell, Thursday, 7 December 2023 20:33 (eleven months ago) link

fascist gnome sounds bad but laughing gnome is good.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 December 2023 20:36 (eleven months ago) link

It was actually focused on My Dick

sarahell, Thursday, 7 December 2023 23:30 (eleven months ago) link

Laughing Dick

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 December 2023 23:33 (eleven months ago) link

My Dick Put on My Dick shoes and dance My Dick

sarahell, Thursday, 7 December 2023 23:35 (eleven months ago) link

i was responding to convo waaay upthread, i didnt realize that. and zing said “yo someone posted” and i was like “fuck an intervening post or two” SEND.

and so i like dropped random nonsense hours later. as opposed to my immediate nonsense. sorry

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 8 December 2023 00:21 (eleven months ago) link

is there a thread for being completely out of touch with the cultural zeitgeist

i'm looking up this show called "DAVE" (which at least is capitalized, you can't have a show called "DAVE" and not at least ironically capitalize it) and it turns out to star novelty rapper lil dicky

who i have also learned still exists

and also that he has hypospadias

also only about 10% of people with hypospadias are intersex

does anybody younger than 40 actually call themselves "DAVE"? it seems like one of those names like "Obadiah" which are currently reserved exclusively for villainous CEOs

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 8 December 2023 14:30 (eleven months ago) link

maybe the biggest UK rapper atm, who is 25

imago, Friday, 8 December 2023 14:44 (eleven months ago) link

probably a us/uk split here tho

imago, Friday, 8 December 2023 14:45 (eleven months ago) link

if we're judging by the number of reaction videos, Dave is also the biggest rapper in the US right now

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 December 2023 15:04 (eleven months ago) link

(not that you should use that as a criterion obviously)

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 December 2023 15:05 (eleven months ago) link

we have an entire TV channel called Dave here in merrie England

kinder, Friday, 8 December 2023 16:18 (eleven months ago) link

mostly watched by over-40s mind ;)

imago, Friday, 8 December 2023 16:40 (eleven months ago) link

you know, this has to be the longest clarification on a disambiguation page i've ever seen

This article is about the British rapper. For the American rapper from De La Soul, see David Jude Jolicoeur. For the TV series about a rapper called Dave, see Dave (TV series). For the Dutch singer, see Dave (singer).
"Dave Omoregie" redirects here. For the Welsh track and field hurdler, see David Omoregie.

so anyway "dave" is still a name people have, that's good to know. like i said, i'm out of touch with the cultural zeitgeist!

having a radio station named dave reminds me of this mst3k sketch from... like, 30 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUr32SI5YTE

i did listen to the rapper dave, lil dicky is one of those guys i wouldn't listen to based on his name. honestly these days i feel like making your rap name a brag about having a small penis would impress me, but ten years ago it didn't

there's also a banking app named dave. i'd say i wouldn't trust my money with anyone named "dave" but it seems to do some variation on loansharking, which ain't exactly about "trust". is "dave" not an intimidating name for a loanshark?

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 8 December 2023 17:19 (eleven months ago) link

For a lot of us USians one of the main associations might be

https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/dave-1993/large_30lM7Ibsr1hiDHzSE1NDc7SVihp.jpg

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2023 17:23 (eleven months ago) link

there are plenty of other reasons not to listen to lil fucking dicky

personally I don't know any daves myself only a couple of davids but I don't exactly seek them out. as a brand name it seems to project a sort of slumming homosocial mateyness which is always a good thing to be wary of. the UK channel name is very much "90s lad culture triangulated with tweeness and irony" which is a truly hideous cocktail. the dave watcher is very much what the kids would call a "type of guy" - he posts in facebook groups with names like "awfully british problems" and if he's not actually called dave he might as well be

Left, Friday, 8 December 2023 17:48 (eleven months ago) link

Better off with Mike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9FsEi2us88

Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:09 (eleven months ago) link

On 28 October 2003, it was announced that UK Gold 2 would be relaunched and rebranded as UK G² on 12 November.[8] The newly revamped network was promoted as being an edgier alternative to UK Gold; airing programmes aimed at an 18-34 year-old youth audience.

they should change the name back to 'UK G²'

soref, Friday, 8 December 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link

I've mentioned this before; started a whole thread about it, in fact. Back in high school a friend of mine and I tried to come up with the most boring band name possible and we settled on "Dave & the Boys."

Come Up With The Most Boring Band Name Possible

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:12 (eleven months ago) link

Somebody beat me to Mike & the Mechanics.

Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:15 (eleven months ago) link

MIKE > Dave

Left, Friday, 8 December 2023 18:26 (eleven months ago) link

My nominee for boring band name (imagine it on a marquee): Free Tote Bags

Cow_Art, Friday, 8 December 2023 18:36 (eleven months ago) link

My nominee for boring band name (imagine it on a marquee): Free Tote Bags


More people would attend compared to the one I used for a one-off “performance piece”: Closed for Remodeling

sarahell, Friday, 8 December 2023 18:50 (eleven months ago) link

I met a guy with the same name as me once, but it was a hyphenated double first instead of first and middle

I think it’d be funnier if it was shortened. hello my name is mike-dave

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:50 (eleven months ago) link

a comedian (forget which) had a fringe show called "free wifi" - it's like "free beer" only nobody cares

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:00 (eleven months ago) link

When you think about it, "Traffic" is a pretty boring name for a band.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:11 (eleven months ago) link

It doesn't move.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link

It does kind of get stuck in your head, though.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:14 (eleven months ago) link

Someone has to post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nvzEqsZIGo

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:37 (eleven months ago) link

Best Collective Soul song

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:45 (eleven months ago) link

Dave's not here.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 December 2023 19:49 (eleven months ago) link

MIKE > Dave

― Left

otm, mike is fucking great

i'm sure there are other reasons to not listen to lil dicky but i've avoided him successfully enough based on his name alone that i don't know those reasons

i listened to a song by that popular rapper named dave. it was ok i guess.

tier ranking of daves in my music library:

great:
brubeck
davies
douglas
gilmour
holland
stewart (the one from hatfield and the north)
van ronk

good:
bixby
grusin
macon
pike
sucky (yes that's right, dave sucky is actually good)

mid:
brock
clark
day (from the monks)
edmunds
lowe (did the soundtrack for "double dragon 2" on the C64)
vanian

there are actually other daves in my library but i'm just gonna leave it at that

as far as non-musical associations there's dave winfield, who played for the yankees when i was a kid. i think i met him when he was doing a promotional appearance to tell kids to stay off drugs, which may or may not have been court-mandated. there's dave barry, who was a popular newspaper humor columnist back when there were such things as newspaper humor columns. they made a tv show named after him. harry anderson played him. it ran for four seasons. comedy tends to age poorly, and i suspect that dave barry's work is no exception. i loved his stuff when i was a kid.

and then there's dave chappelle.

moving on. this song is good. i like this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpJXqwVAI4

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:03 (eleven months ago) link

Dave's not here.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:03 (eleven months ago) link

Daaaave!

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:09 (eleven months ago) link

Name nerdery is its own thing, and this may not be the thread for it.

Nevertheless I knew a Thelma who recently died, and she is probably the last Thelma, Gertrude, Agatha, or Mildred I will ever know.

But you never know. If you had a preschooler in 2010 or so (as I did), the girls tended to sound like a Victorian ladies' sewing circle (Ella, Emma, Sophia) and the boys tended to sound like a union hall (Max, Sam, Nick).

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:25 (eleven months ago) link

I've got a single Y10 class (15yr olds, 24 of them) with 3 Sophies and a Sophia. Also an Emily, a Phoebe and a Lily.

I'm sure there are studies of this, but I always wonder what % of names (nicknames included) finish in a soft 'eeee' sound.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:32 (eleven months ago) link

Dave's not here.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.


My coworker is a former Dave, as in, his old friends call him Dave, but everyone who he only met in the past decade or so call him David. Both “Dave’s not here” and “I’m sorry Dave” are things I refer to regularly in work conversations with him

sarahell, Friday, 8 December 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link

Chinaski, thanks for that. Add Ivy, Ruby, etc.

Nowadays as young people increasingly adopt nonbinary and/or trans names, I am hearing more -x. I personally know a Lynx, a Jinx, and a Sphinx. Also multiple people named Ash. Plus people who just go by a first initial: we know a V and a B.

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:46 (eleven months ago) link

Bobbi Hill (they/them)

Left, Friday, 8 December 2023 20:49 (eleven months ago) link

Chinaski, thanks for that. Add Ivy, Ruby, etc.

Nowadays as young people increasingly adopt nonbinary and/or trans names, I am hearing more -x. I personally know a Lynx, a Jinx, and a Sphinx.


Eventually they will be old enough to walk into a bar together

sarahell, Friday, 8 December 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link

Sarahell, I hope to give you an update in (yikes) five years.

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2023 20:54 (eleven months ago) link

I have a couple of kids experimenting with Ash. I had a Mordecai last year, which is an awesome name. No 'X's as yet. So many trans and trans-curious kids navigating the 'parent thing' and suddenly appearing at the door on parents' evening, panicking, asking me not to use their chosen name. Resisting the urge to glance at the kid and wink a 'sorry' as I use their deadname is tough.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:04 (eleven months ago) link

Lots of folks navigating that, Chinaski.

We adapted (with a few occasional slipups). Others, not so much. We know some kids who are still not as out as they would possibly like to be.

It's a learning process, and for some families and schools it is a tougher process. Even in liberal areas, I know of situations where teachers and administrators just couldn't quite deal with it. My fervent hope is that people continue to learn and grow, with empathy as their guide.

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:19 (eleven months ago) link

I've only got experience from the teacher side. I'm conscious of painting myself as some pioneer or brave soldier; that's absolutely not the intention. Honestly, there's no guidance to speak of, so empathy and compassion are the only recourse.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 8 December 2023 21:29 (eleven months ago) link

Daaaave!

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

"If Phil's dick fell off, he'd still show up to work."

well by those standards i ought to be a fucking partner!

Nevertheless I knew a Thelma who recently died, and she is probably the last Thelma, Gertrude, Agatha, or Mildred I will ever know.

― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 8, 2023 12:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

don't count on it! i know a 22 year old named mildred. she also dresses like vicki lawrence from "mama's family". it's a whole thing, trans women going with names from their great-great grandmothers' generation.

I've got a single Y10 class (15yr olds, 24 of them) with 3 Sophies and a Sophia. Also an Emily, a Phoebe and a Lily.

I'm sure there are studies of this, but I always wonder what % of names (nicknames included) finish in a soft 'eeee' sound.

― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski)

most women's names end in either vowel sounds or soft consonant sounds. that's why i went with "kate". long vowel sound and both consonants are plosives. according to japanese morning television*, this makes me the COVID-19 version of typhoid mary. although in japan i guess they'd just call me "typhoid newhalf". that's it. that's my new discord username. anyway yeah. i wanted the most phonetically "masculine"-coded name i could come up with that was still unambiguously a woman's name. now i can sneer at men with beta names like "dave". excuse me, a _velar_? you expect to make partner with a _velar_ consonant in your name? also, those consonants? both voiced. if you don't sound like an engine backfiring when you tell people your name, you're obviously not man enough.

the main thing i associate with non-binary names is complete badassery. more punk than punk. sure, you could call yourself "sid vicious". or you could just change your name legally to "vicious" or "arson" or something.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtnVU4BU39E

Bobbi Hill (they/them)

― Left

they/them for the next three months maybe, i know a pipeliner when i see one and she's sure as hell a pipeliner

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 8 December 2023 23:09 (eleven months ago) link


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