I owe it a rewatch, but there are so many Rossellini movies I still would rather see first
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 15:47 (six months ago) link
i don't really get it. the moral circle is too neat and i would prefer to watch literally any rossellini movie but also i want him to get the bike back.
― plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 15:57 (six months ago) link
The Bergman collaborations were eye-openers for me about a decade ago, so it's hard for me to return to what was for decades readily available.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 December 2023 16:01 (six months ago) link
I liked this film a lot better when I saw the original ending, where he and his son team up to burn down the entire neighbourhood of the real bicycle thief.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 15 December 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link
No need to critique Bicycle Thieves in comparison to Rossellini. Italian neo-realism has stood up v well.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 December 2023 12:08 (six months ago) link
I watched:
Napoleon (Gance, 1927)Daughters of the Dust (Dash, 1991) - find that early 90s soundtrack score has dated badly but otherwise there are some beautiful images. This was through MUBI so needs a proper big screen watch.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 December 2023 12:12 (six months ago) link
The best observation in Mark Cousins’ History of Cinema series is when he points out a moment in the Bicycle Thieves where the little boy nearly gets run over while crossing a busy road - you don’t get much more realist than that, but De Sica doesn’t make a big deal of such a happy near accident.
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 16 December 2023 13:27 (six months ago) link
not making a big deal out of almost getting run over is the minimum bar for realism if a movie's supposed to be set in Rome
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 December 2023 16:02 (six months ago) link
Paris, Texas (Wenders, 1984). Pretty successful translation of his road movie schtick to the US, with an excellent cast and score.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 December 2023 15:32 (five months ago) link
Let's get this restarted
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:54 (five months ago) link
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The Red Shoes, Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, 1948Morbsies #282Sight & Sound Critics #67Sight & Sound Directors #72
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:57 (five months ago) link
Love it, tho I haven't seen it in years. Not my favorite Archers film — a bit portentous iirc — but beautiful to watch.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:22 (five months ago) link
Haven't seen it yet but it was the favourite film of a prick I used to share a house with, called Jacques. Will try not to hold this against it.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:26 (five months ago) link
Not my favorite Archers film — a bit portentous iirc
That's my conclusion
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:28 (five months ago) link
Any P&P from this run is a candidate for "best British movie ever," basically. But this one is the one I feel the most strongly about, and I can't imagine that changing as I get older.
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:29 (five months ago) link
it definitely sometimes is my favourite P&P
― emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:32 (five months ago) link
As with the other P&Ps, the criterion remaster is up in full on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fmI_8MwNeI
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:36 (five months ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 2, 2024 4:28 PM (two hours ago)
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― rob, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 00:24 (five months ago) link
i don't really get this film. the shoes are red am i missing something else.
every time i read something about how good it is its like 'its in technicolor'
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 21:57 (five months ago) link
The Archers stumble a bit in this when they try to make overarching commentary on what it means to be an artist. I also have the same issue with Powell's Peeping Tom.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:01 (five months ago) link
i love peeping tom. the artist as pervert is a much more fun analogy
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:04 (five months ago) link
i always think about the line about 'the blind live in the rooms upstairs' when my neighbours are making noise although this is probably quite ableist
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:06 (five months ago) link
plax otm
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:38 (five months ago) link
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― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:35 (five months ago) link
I absolutely love the Kate Bush song this film inspired
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:36 (five months ago) link
Wow Lermontov and Craster are both fucking dicks.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 23:04 (five months ago) link
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Late Spring, Yasujirō Ozu, 1949Morbsies #39Sight & Sound Critics #21Sight & Sound Directors 62
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:19 (five months ago) link
THE GREATEST
― craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:35 (five months ago) link
I may lean a tiny bit more toward An Autumn Afternoon these days, but that's just because I'm getting really flipping old now
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:37 (five months ago) link
to some extent picking my favourite is arbitrary but Late Spring is perfect, so much inner drama evoked through such stillness, i think my love reflects my flipping oldness too, it speaks to my feelings about the stasis we resign ourselves to and maybe, eventually, accept
plus Ozu is probably my favourite director of architecture as a character in itself
― craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:46 (five months ago) link
Watching here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-iOxf4vI0
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 21:46 (five months ago) link
Loved Late Spring, can't think of much to say about it, oh well.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:35 (four months ago) link
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The Third Man, Carol Reed, 1949
Morbsies #12 Sight & Sound Directors #63
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:36 (four months ago) link
My students just wrote their first essays (the other choice: Do the Right Thing).
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:37 (four months ago) link
...on this marvel.
As before I had a great time watching this, and there's so much to enjoy about the art direction, the Dutch angles, the world building, the sound design and the music of course, the performances from just about everyone, the sewers!, that first shot of Harry Lime! - but despite everything I just can't shake the feeling that it's all a bit of a trifle, an Ealing caper movie like The Lavender Hill Mob. But maybe I like it all the better for that, I do love The Lavender Hill Mob after all, anyway I'm full of shit and this is great.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:35 (four months ago) link
It's admitidely been a minute since I've seen The Lavender Hill Mob, but I don't remember it having a harrowing depiction of postwar Europe, or of the effect of faulty medication on children, or a sad meditation on friendship gone wrong. Is it just that The Third Man has crime in it?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 8 February 2024 10:46 (four months ago) link
No it doesn't have any of those things (well maybe a meditation on friendship) but it has that late 40s/early 50s British studio feel - and while it ultimately isn't a crime caper, it also has a lot in common with that.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 11:27 (four months ago) link
The problem is that Harry Lime is so likeable a character that it's too easy to overlook how he is exploiting postwar Europe (specifically the children who got the contaminated medicine). Consider that the Lime character got (softer and lighter) radio and TV spinoffs, rather than Holly or Anna.
My biggest issue is how that zither theme KEEPS. COMING. BACK.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:37 (four months ago) link
Is it a problem? I think the film and Greene's script underscore those crimes fairly well before and after Lime's appearance.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:40 (four months ago) link
You are correct, but Welles' performance is so grand that viewers may overlook or excuse those crimes.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:46 (four months ago) link
one slight frustration is that Holly doesn't make the case to Anna that "you shouldn't have any loyalty to Harry, he's murdering children, ffs"
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:53 (four months ago) link
idk I've shown this film to student and they get the Charming Monster trope possibly more than 1949 audiences.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:26 (four months ago) link
*students
i saw this film at the bfi once and immediately after it ended someone turned around and said 'cracking film, absolute classic' and unfortunately i hate it now
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:33 (four months ago) link
not really but the disappointment of other carol reed movies does tarnish it a bit. the parts with orson welles are fun but feel a bit cheap when you think about it too much after, just too desperate to charm.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:35 (four months ago) link
Have always irrationally hated it. Everyone should get at least one classic that just rubs them the absolute wrong way, and this one is mine.
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:35 (four months ago) link
i dont hate it i just hate the people who like it
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:37 (four months ago) link
Odd Man Out, The Fallen Idol, Outcast of the Islands, Our Man in Heaven, all good films.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:40 (four months ago) link
I didn't catch The Third Man until the mid '90s and even then Harry Lime didn't engage my sympathy, way before we understood how gaslighting works. He was an engaging bastard who deserved to hang.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:43 (four months ago) link