Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

This is more like it:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/dec/21/mystery-of-raphael-masterpiece-madonna-della-rosa-may-have-been-solved-by-bradford-made-ai

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, December 21, 2023 2:36 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ugail cheerfully admits that he knows “nothing about art”, and that the reception to his work from art historians can be frosty.

“I think there is fear and they also think we are naive, that we don’t know what we are doing,” he said.

But Ugail thinks the art historians will eventually be won over and see AI as an extra way of authenticating great art. He stressed that he does not believe AI will replace humans.

this seems like a scam. but the art world is also a scam, so i guess it evens out.

Also in the vein of seemingly human endeavors not being sufficiently differentiable from automation, I can't figure out if this is generated, and to what degree:
https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84apcnbzr94.png

i'd have to guess that wind is a huge factor in pea throwing. there's probably a big divide in the community between those who do it inside vs outside

pea throwing world record*: 42m

*wind assisted

Oh! I meant the picture and article headline looks like a drunken prompt and its uncanny-valley output but for sure pea throwing itself seems like a thing the machines would totally dominate.

anyone who is relying on the wind for pea throwing aint a hero to me
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.tQfPX62D.gIFrXJ0roUu?w=1024&h=1024&rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain

"the reception to his work"

Lol. Lmao

this seems like a scam. but the art world is also a scam, so i guess it evens out.

like pissing down yr leg while going hypothermic

that’s applause btw!

Didn't think that was a scam. What are they getting from AI calculating a style of a painter?

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This is an example of AI seemingly completing a painting. People say it's shit and ethics aside it makes you look again, and further.

The story behind this painting is so sad! 😢
Now using AI we can complete what he couldn't finish! ❤️ https://t.co/RuASoTfFdk pic.twitter.com/uAwM6SBUGW

— Donnel (@DonnelVillager) December 31, 2023

https://i.imgur.com/xTfWtsz.png

Love it.

hey uh that AI-"completed" Keith Haring is making me want to stab somebody

trolling, still in poor taste, but i do support how theyre turning people against ai

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:tcqccoco3nogeyxk2jnrxnwk/bafkreibza4727oteww2m43zac7dgt57pmynohkipoullik5zw4lici3l5q@jpeg

i wonder if there was someone somewhere who had never thought of art as any more than a pretty picture who saw that exchange and went hey huh

AI is definitely opening up some brave new frontiers in trolling, I'll give it that

no ai instance can have the insight to cross the uncanny valley until it has a real fear of its own death, with the necessary survival priorities also encoded.

There's a swath of beloved artists, Haring included, whose usurption by AI bubble doesn't bother me quite so much (if it devalues him as a blue chip tax dodge for billionaires, all the better!) as some of the smaller names on this list:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.407208/gov.uscourts.cand.407208.129.10.pdf

That is an incredibly disrespectful view toward Haring, a little shocked.

Towards Haring specifically? For me, Haring never resonated beyond a commercially viable aesthetic, so for Midjourney or whatever to copy his style means about as much to me as it copying the Supreme logo -- but whereas with Supreme there's a Barbara Kruger I can feel indignant about Supreme having co-opted, there isn't a version of Haring for me that exists beyond Haring the Brand (TM), but in either case, the damage/erasure was already done before this latest round of cultural stripmining.

Not so for the smaller and still-alive artists.

Kind of a limited picture of what Haring’s work was when he was alive and what it still stands for cf the Gay Center bathroom

Haring was a gay man who was one of the most outspoken and visible AIDS activists in the world at a time when the government was still genociding us through its inaction.

I might just have a disconnect to NYC-based artists in general; Basquiat similarly doesn't evoke artist so much as brand to me, and it doesn't help that the scene and economics of it actively encouraged making those things inextricable.

It's a recurring trope of the (pre-AI-craze) machine consuming and sanitizing provocative and progressive culture and repackaging it as greeting cards, and I sympathize with the idea of using that machine and I'm assuming in Haring's case, packaging it in an accessible aesthetic to propagate an important message -- do you feel it worked?

haring is great, and that tweet is clearly a troll

its heartening that everyone whos not dreaming of getting rich off it finds ai art repulsive

Haring, Inc., is in fact the Keith Haring Foundation, which lists the recipients of its funding https://www.haring.com/kh_foundation/grants

that's how you know it's getting closer to really working xp

anyway I've been viciously trolled but I love keith haring

I might just have a disconnect to NYC-based artists in general; Basquiat similarly doesn't evoke artist so much as brand to me, and it doesn't help that the scene and economics of it actively encouraged making those things inextricable.

It's a recurring trope of the (pre-AI-craze) machine consuming and sanitizing provocative and progressive culture and repackaging it as greeting cards, and I sympathize with the idea of using that machine and I'm assuming in Haring's case, packaging it in an accessible aesthetic to propagate an important message -- do you feel it worked?

I paid $8 for this and it was worth every penny https://t.co/zTzbKEzKGq pic.twitter.com/fHEHtSZR4X

— erin (@ratsnotagain) January 5, 2024

There is more.

Oh my god the chorus pic.twitter.com/0gszuW2gqq

— Carl Beijer (@CarlBeijer) January 5, 2024

Those are terrible imitations of Homer's singing voice. If they weren't labelled as Homer I probably wouldn't recognize the resemblance because it's too 'off'.

pff, Zombie is brilliant

zombie sounds like it was made from the original track but hey ya doesnt

This, uh, doesn't seem great?

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/things-are-about-to-get-a-lot-worse

omg @ hey ya

eh so instead of making shit, all people have to do now is monitor shit AI "makes" to avoid IP infringement. it's a living!

This, uh, doesn't seem great?

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/things-are-about-to-get-a-lot-worse

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, January 8, 2024 3:12 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

what that article seems to be saying is ai as an industry is in big legal jeopardy, which does seem great

then on the flip side generated works arent copyrightable

Legal jeopardy only affects entities that are governable by laws.

U.S. law only applies to those entities that operate inside these extremely porous digital borders. "International law" barely exists and has virtually no teeth for enforcement.

Maybe we should have kept hiring people to do stuff. Crazy thought, I know.

And I hate to be a broken record on this topic but my colleagues and friends and I have spent 30ish years putting stuff out there. Mostly with no byline. Either because that was the gig, or because I thought I was serving the public interest by doing so.

Insert DJ Khaled "congratulations, you played yourself" image here.

id personally wait until theres any evidence at all that the stuff im worried about is actually happening before making 500 identical posts about it

It does feel like IP law is a one-way valve to only protect the wicked (e.g. publishers suing archive.org for behaving like a library), but I disagree with DJ Khaled w/r/t you putting stuff out there being a chump move unless it's stuff you didn't want to make in the first place.

i think generative ai of the type thats in all the articles has huge problems with copyright law, server expenses, quality of output, controllability of output, and ick factor

Yeah I guess I should be worried about being laid off and missing my mortgage payment only after I have been laid off and missed my mortgage payment

obvs you can worry about whatever you want thats none of my business

https://openai.com/blog/openai-and-journalism

seems like a milquetoast response

OpenAI lobbying for copyright law revision in the UK ⁦@GaryMarcus⁩ ⁦@jason_kint⁩ pic.twitter.com/kug5rCpINT

— Leighton Andrews🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇺🇦 (@LeightonAndrews) January 8, 2024

could we make ai that replaces anxiety, so we never have to feel it again?

hope the ai crash doesnt take as long as crypto did and it would be nice to not replace it with another hypecycle after or at least take a little break in between

If you ask Dall-E for a video game plumber it throws in one Mario you can potentially jerk off to for good measure lol