The Archers stumble a bit in this when they try to make overarching commentary on what it means to be an artist. I also have the same issue with Powell's Peeping Tom.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:01 (nine months ago) link
i love peeping tom. the artist as pervert is a much more fun analogy
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:04 (nine months ago) link
i always think about the line about 'the blind live in the rooms upstairs' when my neighbours are making noise although this is probably quite ableist
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:06 (nine months ago) link
plax otm
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 22:38 (nine months ago) link
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― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:35 (nine months ago) link
I absolutely love the Kate Bush song this film inspired
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 23:36 (nine months ago) link
Wow Lermontov and Craster are both fucking dicks.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 23:04 (eight months ago) link
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Late Spring, Yasujirō Ozu, 1949Morbsies #39Sight & Sound Critics #21Sight & Sound Directors 62
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:19 (eight months ago) link
THE GREATEST
― craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:35 (eight months ago) link
I may lean a tiny bit more toward An Autumn Afternoon these days, but that's just because I'm getting really flipping old now
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:37 (eight months ago) link
to some extent picking my favourite is arbitrary but Late Spring is perfect, so much inner drama evoked through such stillness, i think my love reflects my flipping oldness too, it speaks to my feelings about the stasis we resign ourselves to and maybe, eventually, accept
plus Ozu is probably my favourite director of architecture as a character in itself
― craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:46 (eight months ago) link
Watching here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-iOxf4vI0
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 21:46 (eight months ago) link
Loved Late Spring, can't think of much to say about it, oh well.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:35 (eight months ago) link
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The Third Man, Carol Reed, 1949
Morbsies #12 Sight & Sound Directors #63
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:36 (eight months ago) link
My students just wrote their first essays (the other choice: Do the Right Thing).
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:37 (eight months ago) link
...on this marvel.
As before I had a great time watching this, and there's so much to enjoy about the art direction, the Dutch angles, the world building, the sound design and the music of course, the performances from just about everyone, the sewers!, that first shot of Harry Lime! - but despite everything I just can't shake the feeling that it's all a bit of a trifle, an Ealing caper movie like The Lavender Hill Mob. But maybe I like it all the better for that, I do love The Lavender Hill Mob after all, anyway I'm full of shit and this is great.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:35 (eight months ago) link
It's admitidely been a minute since I've seen The Lavender Hill Mob, but I don't remember it having a harrowing depiction of postwar Europe, or of the effect of faulty medication on children, or a sad meditation on friendship gone wrong. Is it just that The Third Man has crime in it?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 8 February 2024 10:46 (seven months ago) link
No it doesn't have any of those things (well maybe a meditation on friendship) but it has that late 40s/early 50s British studio feel - and while it ultimately isn't a crime caper, it also has a lot in common with that.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 11:27 (seven months ago) link
The problem is that Harry Lime is so likeable a character that it's too easy to overlook how he is exploiting postwar Europe (specifically the children who got the contaminated medicine). Consider that the Lime character got (softer and lighter) radio and TV spinoffs, rather than Holly or Anna.
My biggest issue is how that zither theme KEEPS. COMING. BACK.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:37 (seven months ago) link
Is it a problem? I think the film and Greene's script underscore those crimes fairly well before and after Lime's appearance.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:40 (seven months ago) link
You are correct, but Welles' performance is so grand that viewers may overlook or excuse those crimes.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:46 (seven months ago) link
one slight frustration is that Holly doesn't make the case to Anna that "you shouldn't have any loyalty to Harry, he's murdering children, ffs"
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:53 (seven months ago) link
idk I've shown this film to student and they get the Charming Monster trope possibly more than 1949 audiences.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:26 (seven months ago) link
*students
i saw this film at the bfi once and immediately after it ended someone turned around and said 'cracking film, absolute classic' and unfortunately i hate it now
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:33 (seven months ago) link
not really but the disappointment of other carol reed movies does tarnish it a bit. the parts with orson welles are fun but feel a bit cheap when you think about it too much after, just too desperate to charm.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:35 (seven months ago) link
Have always irrationally hated it. Everyone should get at least one classic that just rubs them the absolute wrong way, and this one is mine.
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:35 (seven months ago) link
i dont hate it i just hate the people who like it
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:37 (seven months ago) link
Odd Man Out, The Fallen Idol, Outcast of the Islands, Our Man in Heaven, all good films.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:40 (seven months ago) link
I didn't catch The Third Man until the mid '90s and even then Harry Lime didn't engage my sympathy, way before we understood how gaslighting works. He was an engaging bastard who deserved to hang.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:43 (seven months ago) link
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― Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:45 (seven months ago) link
I get why people like The Third Man ... I can't fathom what people see in Odd Man Out
odd man out is particularly bad I barely made it through. unbearable gurning from gate actors.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:45 (seven months ago) link
fallen idol is at least competently made but its whole perspective really grated.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:46 (seven months ago) link
apologies, abbey actors - much worse.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:47 (seven months ago) link
I can't fathom what people see in Odd Man Out
― Rich E. (Eric H.), T
James Mason in stubble.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:47 (seven months ago) link
I feel like I'm definitely in the minority in finding the Third Man score p hideous.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:51 (seven months ago) link
It's fine for about three minutes and not continuous three minutes.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:53 (seven months ago) link
it's not very Austrian is it?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:58 (seven months ago) link
ah the old corrupt europe
― plax (ico), Thursday, 8 February 2024 15:09 (seven months ago) link
The Third Man always surprises me with how exciting it is. The specificity of its setting, the minor characters (like the landlady), the way one of the MPs is a fan of Holly's books, just a wildly entertaining movie.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 February 2024 15:18 (seven months ago) link
"A parrot bit me."
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 15:23 (seven months ago) link
snow. beautiful snow
― wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:42 (seven months ago) link
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, February 8, 2024 8:46 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
not a bad thing! a good film needn’t be so didactic, and anyway I think a viewer with even the slightest degree of discernment can figure out who the bad guy is here. Holly is our stand-in, and his journey from dogged defender of lime’s name to working with the cops to take him down says it all.
saw this for the first time a few days ago and just loved it
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:51 (seven months ago) link
I mean we’ve all read paradise lost, sometimes the bad guys are cooler than the good guys. we’re fallen
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:52 (seven months ago) link
I believe the story is Reed caught Karas in a nightclub during filming and that's what lead to the choice, so it's authentically "something you could catch when going out in Vienna", tho I agree it doesn't sound it.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:07 (seven months ago) link
Well it means nothing to me
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:29 (seven months ago) link
Sorry, anyway, on we go, interested on your different perspectives on this next one.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 22:02 (seven months ago) link
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Rashomon, Akira Kurosawa, 1950Morbsies #151Sight & Sound Critics #41Sight & Sound Directors #20
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 February 2024 22:03 (seven months ago) link