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Because it's the Wall Street Journal so fuck 'em (and they have one of the strongest paywalls around), here's an article on the collapse of the insurance industry:

After Allstate suffered billions of dollars in losses and failed to get the rate increases it wanted, it resorted to the nuclear option.

The insurance giant threatened last fall to stop renewing auto insurance for customers in three states that hadn’t given in to its demands, which would have left those policyholders scrambling for coverage. The states blinked.

In December, New Jersey approved auto rate increases for Allstate averaging 17%, and New York, a 15% hike. Regulators in California are allowing Allstate to boost auto rates by 30%, but still haven’t decided on its request for a 40% increase in home-insurance rates after the insurer refused to write new policies.

For many Americans, getting insurance for both their cars and homes has gone from a routine, generally manageable expense to a do-or-die ordeal that can strain household budgets.

Insurers are coming off some of their worst years in history. Catastrophic damage from storms and wildfires is one big reason. The past decade of global natural catastrophes has been the costliest ever. Warmer temperatures have made storms worse and contributed to droughts that have elevated wildfire risk. Too many new homes were built in areas at risk of fire.

As losses mounted, inflation only made matters worse, boosting the cost of repairing or replacing cars or homes.

Climate change also has made it harder for insurers to measure their risks, pushing some to demand even higher premiums to cushion against future losses.

“I have never seen the overall market this bad,” said Barry Gilway, a 52-year veteran of the industry who retired in 2023 as head of Florida’s Citizens Property Insurance, a state-created insurer of last resort that sells plans to people who can’t get coverage elsewhere.

Homeowners and drivers are facing sharply rising premiums, less coverage and fewer, if any, choices of insurer. In some places, the only options are bare bones coverage or none at all. That can make homes worth less and harder to sell, and cars less affordable.

Farmers Insurance Group increased home-insurance rates by more than 23% last year for tens of thousands of policyholders in both Illinois and Texas, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence. Nationwide Mutual said it won’t renew 10,525 home-insurance policies in hurricane-prone areas of North Carolina.

State Farm racked up $13 billion in property-casualty underwriting losses in 2022, its worst ever. Last year, it stopped writing new home-insurance policies in California. The state’s regulators last month approved a 20% home-insurance rate increase.

“This is just the worst possible scenario you could think of for consumers,” said Timothy Gaspar, head of a Los Angeles-based insurance agency. The mass retreat of insurers from the state means there is nothing to offer people seeking new home or auto insurance, he said.

A Farmers spokeswoman said its rate increases were designed to “better reflect the increased risk and claims costs we continue to face.” A Nationwide spokesman said the company was being more selective about where it writes policies in response to inflation and market disruptions.

A State Farm spokesman said the rate increases were driven by increased costs and risk, and that the company continued to look for ways to maintain competitive rates.

Allstate Chief Executive Tom Wilson defended the threat to yank auto coverage in the three states that generated heavy losses. “We can’t afford to use shareholder money…to support an underpriced product,” he said. A company spokesman said the “rate approvals allow us to protect more customers as we work with state regulators to improve insurance availability.”

Last summer, Marta Cross, an actress, bought a new home with her musician husband in northeast Los Angeles. Their new neighborhood in the San Rafael Hills, called Mount Washington, has lots of trees but no recent history of wildfires, she said, and no fire-zone warning signs.

Nevertheless, their house purchase almost fell apart when she was unable to get insurance from any private-sector company because of wildfire risk. “It was really hairy,” she said. “The seller’s agent was in touch every day, saying, ‘What’s happening with the insurance?’”

She contacted a local mothers’ group for advice. “Several moms started to be concerned, saying, wait, does this mean I’m not covered?” Cross recalled. She ended up buying fire coverage with the state’s insurer of last resort and a supplemental policy to cover other risks, as required by her mortgage lender.

The combined premiums total more than $4,000 a year. That’s around $1,500 more than if she had qualified for a regular home-insurance policy, according to her insurance agent, Nick Ramirez of Goosehead Insurance. “I’m considering forgoing earthquake insurance so I can have fire insurance,” Cross said. “And praying.”

U.S. property-casualty insurers, who issue home and auto policies, racked up $32.2 billion in net underwriting losses in the first nine months of 2023, $7.6 billion worse than in the same period a year earlier, according to a December report by ratings firm AM Best.

Tough times are nothing new for insurers. They are in the business of predicting the future. When losses are low, companies such as Progressive and Geico—known to consumers for their ubiquitous ads featuring, respectively, Flo and the gecko—fight for customers. When disasters hit, they tally their losses and raise prices or cut offerings.

Big profits often follow, leading to complaints from consumers and regulators. Shares of insurers, including Allstate’s, already have rebounded in anticipation of higher profits. Nevertheless, the industry’s traditional business model is under pressure and, some think, broken.

Insurance premiums have outpaced inflation. Car insurance rates increased 19.2% in the 12 months through November, six times the rise in overall consumer prices, Labor Department data show. It was the 15th consecutive month of double-digit percentage increases in premiums, year-over-year, the longest stretch of such high hikes since the mid-1980s, according to S&P Global.

Simon Edwards drives a 2012 Mazda 5 in his hometown of Las Vegas. The monthly premium of his Geico auto insurance, he said, has shot up 72% in less than a year, from $130 in April to $223 now. “I’ve been in no accidents, no tickets, been with Geico for many years,” he said.

Home insurers have faced premium increases from their own insurers, known as reinsurers. Reinsurance prices for last year were up 30% to 50%, and insurers were forced to take on more risk, said Neil Alldredge, head of the National Association of Mutual Insurance Companies. Reinsurers, more than almost any other industry, are focused on climate risks.

Prices for coverage can be all over the place, forcing consumers to shop around. Nancy Piel, who lives Lake Forest, Ill., a Chicago suburb, contacted three agents last year after Nationwide increased the cost of insuring her two homes and 2011 minivan to $18,000. According to one agent, Chubb quoted even more: $29,000. She ended up insuring with Cincinnati Insurance for $10,500. The coverages were all very similar, she said. Chubb, which caters to high-net-worth customers, offers services not typically available with mainstream policies.

Not all homeowners have the luxury of getting competing quotes. “We assume people have choices…go shop it and you’ll find it,” said Debbie Mayfield, a Florida state senator, at a hearing last year. “Well, I’ll tell you, it’s been shopped and you can’t find it.” Her district includes part of hurricane-prone Brevard County.

Among the factors pushing up the price of auto insurance: Prices of new and used cars, and parts, have risen, more people are driving expensive vehicles, and extreme weather is destroying more cars.

“I’ve been here 27 years, and we’ve never increased auto rates in the way we have in the last two years,” said Allstate CEO Wilson.

Wilson asked hundreds of his company’s agents at a fall event in Orlando how customers were reacting. “I was like, ‘How’s it going? What are people saying? If I’d said to you three years ago we were going to raise auto prices by 17.5% in one year, you would have thrown me out.’ ”

The answer he got back, Wilson said, was that “people understand it, they understand that their cars and their houses are worth more money.” But, he said, “it’s clearly a burden for customers, and we need to figure out what to do about it.”

Some consumers are opting to forgo coverage—if they have a choice. Most mortgage lenders require borrowers to have home insurance. Richard Redmond was quoted $7,500 a year for federal flood insurance for his new home on a barrier island on Florida’s east coast. “I chose to forgo the flood policy,” he said. “A $7,500 annual fee for $350,000 of coverage makes no sense.”

Inflation, higher reinsurance rates and lawsuits are part of doing business for insurers. Climate change is a wild card. When insurers can’t quantify a risk, they charge more to cover it, or avoid it completely.

“Climate change will destabilize the global insurance industry,” research firm Forrester Research predicted in a fall report. Increasingly extreme weather will make it harder for insurance companies to model and predict exposures, accurately calculate reserves, offer coverage and pay claims, the report said. As a result, Forrester forecast, “more insurers will leave markets besides the high-stakes states like California, Florida, and Louisiana.”

Allstate CEO Wilson said: “There will be insurance deserts.”

Insurance deserts, where private-sector companies no longer will sell regular home-insurance policies, are already developing in high-risk areas. Florida’s insurer of last resort is now the main provider of home coverage in that state.

In California’s wildfire-prone San Bernardino County, insurers in 2021 refused to renew 1,355 policies in a zip code that abuts Lake Arrowhead, north of San Bernardino, up sharply from 157 refusals in 2015, according to an analysis by research firm First Street Foundation.

In November, Chaucer Group, a London-based reinsurer, named several regions once considered low risk for wildfires that it said are “quickly becoming areas of concern for catastrophic wildfire insurance losses.” They include mountainous areas between Salt Lake City and Denver, and the Appalachian Mountains from Tennessee to New York.

Another concern is Texas, partly because of increased development on the fringes of metropolitan areas stemming from migration from California, the report said.

Insurers say they won’t completely abandon risky areas. “I don’t think it’s like the insurance industry said, we’re done here, you’re on your own,” said Allstate’s Wilson. “It’s just, there are certain places where if we can’t spread the cost appropriately and we can’t price it, then we shouldn’t do it.”

Insurance agents and analysts said many insurers are “quiet quitting” high-risk areas rather than face the public relations or regulatory fallout from an official exit.

“Most of the carriers have just flat out said, we are not accepting new business right now [in California]. But that statement is made to insurance agencies, not the public,” said Gaspar, the Los Angeles agency head. “Or they’re making it next to impossible to get a new policy.”

Companies are choking off new business by slashing advertising, closing sales offices or erecting barriers to getting quotes.

State Farm spent 72% less on broadcast and cable advertising in the nine months through Sept. 30, compared with the year-earlier period, according to advertising tracking company AdImpact. Geico cut back by 81%, the data show. A State Farm spokesman confirmed ad spending was down, but said the company didn’t think tracking services completely captured its marketing spending.

Geico in 2022 closed all its sales offices in California. Search for an agent on the Geico website, and the alphabetical list of states skips straight from Arkansas to Colorado. California appears not to exist. A Geico spokesman said customers still have the option to buy its policies in California directly from the company.

Agents say another common technique for restricting unprofitable growth is insisting on hard-to-locate paperwork upfront. Proof that the plumbing’s been updated, say, or documentation of work done on the roof. “It’s a way to say, we don’t want the business,” said Gaspar.

Last summer, Nationwide said it was requiring customers to supply documentation before the company would provide quotes for some new home or auto insurance products in certain states. The company, which declined to name the affected states, said the move was a response to “strong headwinds” buffeting the industry.

For years, state regulations kept insurance relatively cheap in California. Insurers usually requested rate increases of less than 7% because of a 35-year-old law that made it harder to raise rates by more.

That 7% norm appears to be a thing of the past. State Farm and others stopped selling new home insurance in the state. “For many Californians, this is an insurance emergency,” state insurance commissioner Ricardo Lara told state legislators in December.

The state regulator granted ASI Select Insurance, owned by Progressive, a 25% average home-insurance rate increase last August, affecting more than 40,000 policyholders, state filings show. Progressive didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Last fall, Lara said he would accede to a longstanding industry demand to allow rate increases to reflect predicted future losses from wildfires, rather than historic damages only. The regulator also said he would consider allowing companies to pass reinsurance cost increases through to policyholders.

Other states deserted by many big insurers, including Florida, are trying to tempt companies back by making it harder for policyholders to sue them.

Despite some concessions from regulators, insurers are bracing for a tough future. Allstate’s Wilson said that everywhere in the country is at some risk from increasingly severe weather. “There is no place that’s safe,” he said, “and no place that’s not going to be impacted.”

Given America's gun culture I kinda feel like we could just replace auto insurance with duels held at roadside, loser pays all costs for both vehicles.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 8 January 2024 17:49 (six months ago) link

feel like some states are going to keep on heading to a housing/auto wild west where nobody can get homeowner's insurance or auto insurance at all and thus can't get mortgages or car loans

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 January 2024 17:56 (six months ago) link

I feel about insurance the way I feel about coat checks at clubs: If it's mandatory, it should be free. If you're legally requiring people to have insurance, then there has to be a provider to give it to them no matter what. If that's the government, fine. Personally, I think people should forgo insurance and just learn to be a little more Zen about their possessions, but I recognize that that's a minority opinion.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 8 January 2024 18:02 (six months ago) link

insurance covers more than possessions is the very obvious rejoinder

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 8 January 2024 18:25 (six months ago) link

the requirement to have it for vehicles, in execution, isn't for any benefit of the populace, it's used as a classist mechanism to prevent poor people from wrecking rich people's expensive rides and the poor rich folk having to spend more money out of pocket to fix their phallic symbol.

in a perfect world, everybody would have insurance, but on a sliding scale, cost-wise. instead, insurers penalize struggling people by jacking up rates for people with low credit scores, which just means these people can't afford to repair their car or do maintenance on it, and then have to put themselves and other people at risk by driving vehicles with significant problems. ironically causing more accidental and personal injury claims to pay out.

my best friend told me how much she pays a month for car insurance and I almost shit. I thought mine was high.

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 January 2024 18:28 (six months ago) link

There is a mildly amusing early 1990s fantasy novel called Flying Dutch, by Tom Holt.

In it, a sea captain buys an insurance policy but mysteriously fails to die. The result is that the value of his insurance policy becomes worth more than the entire world's economy.

Insurance remains a weirdly circular problem - you can't afford a disaster, but part of the reason you can't afford a disaster is because you've spent much of your life paying someone money just in case you have a disaster.

And because lots of people have insurance, lots of disasters are paid for from the pool. And the pricing reflects that, and everyone involved knows it. But the industry knows how to count, so it ensures that they always profit.

A mess. Just one of many messes we have inherited from our elders.

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 8 January 2024 19:09 (six months ago) link

But the industry knows how to count, so it ensures that they always profit.

The whole basis of the insurance industry is using statistics to predict future risk within large aggregates. The underlying statistics always rest on past events and are modified to predict the future by incorporating known trends. The 'collapse' of the insurance industry isn't because they stopped knowing how to count, but due to the collapse of stability within many of the systems where insurance gets applied. When your business is making reliable predictions in relatively stable systems then their breakdown into chaos is fatal to your business model.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 8 January 2024 19:41 (six months ago) link

Does Jake from State Farm know about this?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:22 (six months ago) link

So many threads this gem could go on, but this feels like the right fit

The fact that the Supreme Court is deciding whether it should be legal for homeless people to have pillows and blankets while they sleep outside shows just how depraved the United States really is.

— Commie Trucker (@commie_trucker) January 13, 2024

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 January 2024 16:14 (five months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDz6YXlX0AAsQtg?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 January 2024 20:08 (five months ago) link

Within the margin of error of fully half of the country. Cool story, America!

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 January 2024 20:13 (five months ago) link

primary voters still seem pretty solid in that one

Nhex, Sunday, 14 January 2024 22:28 (five months ago) link

That's not half the country it's almost half of the registered voters in the country

a (waterface), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 16:43 (five months ago) link

How do you even poison blood that is already 47% poison

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 16:45 (five months ago) link

The company (Macy's) is reportedly trying to transition in order to appeal to a younger generation of shoppers.

sounds bad

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 20 January 2024 20:53 (five months ago) link

Department stores are a vanishing world, like print journalism. We can be wistful about it but we can't stop either trend now. It's too late.

I have a lot of fond memories of both, but they did not and could not adapt. People having the sad feelz about department stores now are mostly people who voted with their wallets and feet 20 years ago.

Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:10 (five months ago) link

I have no fond memories of department stores. Most of my memories are of waiting for my mom to finish her interminable shopping.

Well, I suppose there was playing hide and seek with my brother in the clothes racks. But that was frowned upon.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:28 (five months ago) link

...and the lone and solitary K-Marts stretch off into the distance

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:37 (five months ago) link

two remaining Kmarts

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:50 (five months ago) link

K-Mart always smelled bad to me. Very similar to the burnt popcorn/hair perm smell of Woolworth's, but somehow shabbier.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:53 (five months ago) link

that era where discount department stores tried to expand wildly as standalones, as opposed to department stores which were usually in a mall or mall-adjacent, post-Walmart was something. we already had Target in the upper midwest pre-Walmart, and Walmart’s entire model was to open outside of cities. we briefly had Venture and probably a couple others before the bottom dropped out

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:00 (five months ago) link

OK.

In my experience, East Coast cities often had two (or more) department stores that were located right next to each other, and theoreticallly competed, but were actually mutually engaged in providing a very specific experience.

You went to Macy's then Gimbel's. You went to Wanamaker's or Filene's. Saks Fifth Avenue.

In Washington you could go to Woodward & Lothrop, Hecht's, Garfinkel's, Lord & Taylor.

In Richmond you could go to Thalheimer's and Miller & Rhoads.

Everyone had their preferences; there were (in a sense) choices. My grandmother took me to tea in their tea rooms.

Yeah surely they were all just as much of a capitalist scam as Amazon or Target or Wal-Mart or whatever, but all I am trying to say is that it is a world that existed, and it is now vanished.

Ditto the thump of the newspaper on the doorstep signaling the beginning of the day and a now-vanished world of relative consensus about the things that are happening.

Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:33 (five months ago) link

Oh, one more pairing: in St. Louis, Famous-Barr and Styx Baer Fuller. Later, Dillard's and Nordstom.

It's not like I bear any personal loyalty to those specific businesses (I don't owe them anything, they just wanted to make money.) I can sympathize with people who are wistful about brands, but for me it's just that was a whole world, in which I worked, and it's basically vanished.

Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:39 (five months ago) link

I have many fond memories of department stores, Burdines/Macy's in particular. I actually still go on on occasion because the sales are excellent -- went to Macy's last month!

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:07 (five months ago) link

buncha straight dudes, the lot of you

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:07 (five months ago) link

Oh -- Target is a vast improvement over Kmart and its forebears. I never mind going.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:08 (five months ago) link

do you all remember the before times. before the supermarket was built around us? when we went to the store instead of working in it. all the best, just a guy here in aisle 28, near the office supplies

z_tbd, Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:12 (five months ago) link

There was a chain in Michigan (and probably in other states in the Midwest) called Grant's. For my five-year-old self, it was a utopia: they had the best toy section I can remember. The Marx "historical" figures were the gold standard.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:13 (five months ago) link

I liked the smaller standalone department stores that were already dying when I was a kid - there was a Stripling & Cox a couple of blocks from my house in the kind of '70s construction shopping center that houses a beauty salon supply store, a Magic The Gathering store and a bunch of empty storefronts now. It was maybe a third the size of the anchors at the new mall but managed to fit all the standard departments though the brands might not have been the top shelf (they did have Girbaud and Mossimo jeans though).

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:41 (five months ago) link

when i was a kid pittsburgh had kaufmann's and horne's (both local) plus gimbels

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:42 (five months ago) link

i still go to a department store at least a couple of times a month to get eg underwear, a small dehumidifier, a serving spoon etc because it’s easier than searching all that shit up online

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:53 (five months ago) link

then again i don’t live in the US

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:54 (five months ago) link

Wanamaker’s was the big one here (Philly brand). I have many memories of my mom dragging me to the men’s department to look for nicer clothes, and being totally pissed off that I had to be there.

I do remember that I bought my first Discman at that same Wanamaker’s when I was in… 6th grade?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:58 (five months ago) link

being totally pissed off that I had to be there

otm

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:59 (five months ago) link

tbf I was too but as soon as I could afford to buy Choose Your Own Adventures books at B. Dalton or Waldenbooks I could walk around reading.

Then, much much later, I realized I liked looking good.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 January 2024 00:00 (five months ago) link

Everything I know about UK department stores is courtesy of Are You Being Served

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 21 January 2024 00:26 (five months ago) link

BTW, I worked as an elf in Santaland at Thalheimer's in 1989 and had written a decent draft of a mildly humorous essay about it in 1993 or so.

Aaaaaaaand... David Sedaris beat me to it by a few months, and that's why he is rich and famous and I am sad and broke.

Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 21 January 2024 01:12 (five months ago) link

Not that I am bitter or anything

Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 21 January 2024 01:15 (five months ago) link

Speaking of dystopias

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 21 January 2024 01:17 (five months ago) link

Dillard's stock has gone up nearly 500% since 2020.

pplains, Sunday, 21 January 2024 03:45 (five months ago) link

There was a chain in Michigan (and probably in other states in the Midwest) called Grant's. For my five-year-old self, it was a utopia: they had the best toy section I can remember. The Marx "historical" figures were the gold standard.

There were some Grants in Florida before they all suddenly closed around 1976. Fabulous store if you were a kid. Also in South Florida was the aforementioned Burdines which I miss, plus a thing called Jefferson('s) which had a great record department, and there was Britt's which had many bedroom showrooms that were fun for a kid to play in. There was also J Byrons, which was good for school clothes. It's kind of a bummer that every other department store is a Macy's now.

Josefa, Sunday, 21 January 2024 04:31 (five months ago) link

ymp you know too much lol, condolences

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Sunday, 21 January 2024 04:35 (five months ago) link

There were some Grants in Florida before they all suddenly closed around 1976. Fabulous store if you were a kid. Also in South Florida was the aforementioned Burdines which I miss, plus a thing called Jefferson('s) which had a great record department, and there was Britt's which had many bedroom showrooms that were fun for a kid to play in. There was also J Byrons, which was good for school clothes. It's kind of a bummer that every other department store is a Macy's now.

― Josefa,

I remember Jefferson's well -- it closed in the early '80s. Specialized in technology, if I'm not mistaken.

Marshall's and a store called Ross have taken over the J. Byrons; they're a step below Target.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 January 2024 10:22 (five months ago) link

Ross Dress for Less! i have gotten many pairs of fancy gay underwear at Ross

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 January 2024 12:53 (five months ago) link

It's bittersweet to see department store America preserved in the opening credits of old TV shows, for example on The Bob Newhart Show Bob walks past Marshall Field in Chicago, and on The Mary Tyler Moore Show Dayton's is seen in the background and she tosses her hat in front of Donaldson's, both in Minneapolis. All defunct store names now afaik.

Josefa, Sunday, 21 January 2024 13:22 (five months ago) link

Oh -- Target is a vast improvement over Kmart and its forebears. I never mind going.

Maybe it’s because I haven’t had the joy of the Kmart experience in many years now, but Target is starting to feel like it’s on the way out. Stocking issues, yes, but also the Walgreens-ish insult of having major swaths of products behind locked doors and very few staff to unlock them any sooner than three/four minutes after signaling the alert

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 January 2024 16:02 (five months ago) link

I don’t usually find things I like in Ross, but Nordstrom Rack usually has at least something I do, usually in shoes

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 January 2024 16:05 (five months ago) link

My Target's always packed and the customer service is terrific. I suspect the number of South American tourists keeps our department stores (Macy's included) humming.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 January 2024 16:19 (five months ago) link

the anchor stores when I was a kid at the local mall were Younkers, Montgomery Ward, Richman-Gordman, and Sears. I think all are dead as a doornail, now. as is that mall

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 21 January 2024 16:21 (five months ago) link


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