Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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tbf its prob what a lot of their users are looking for

lag∞n, Monday, 8 January 2024 19:36 (ten months ago) link

speedy blue hedgehog character felching cinematic dramatic lighting HDR

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 8 January 2024 19:37 (ten months ago) link

https://bsky.app/profile/kevinbuist.com/post/3kiimjwdeiq2s

lag∞n, Monday, 8 January 2024 20:10 (ten months ago) link

what a world

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 19:44 (ten months ago) link

Best (meaning worst) part of the story is that it didn't just happen once, but involved multiple men.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 20:01 (ten months ago) link

Congrats to Elon for tricking all the bots to buy bluechecks I guess...

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 22:01 (ten months ago) link

ai is really controlled by alien

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 11 January 2024 13:27 (ten months ago) link

This it the superintelligence that I’m told will kill us all within the next 5 years pic.twitter.com/hPrOLBlU0B

— jolly jim 🎅 (@importancatpete) January 10, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 January 2024 14:49 (ten months ago) link

lmfao

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 January 2024 14:52 (ten months ago) link

The Godfather is a good film tho.

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 11 January 2024 16:31 (ten months ago) link

I think this is not only ai generated but all the "comments" are too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH69jVSvo3Q

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 11 January 2024 21:30 (ten months ago) link

This is UK specific but this blog covers lots of the failures in the build and design of IT systems.

Note the bit on management's lack of understanding and curiosity on how systems work, even at a high level. A lot of them just want to see cost to be gone. If anything that stuff needs more investment in people, and intelligence at management level, to make systems work with a smaller number of errors.

https://dafyddvaughan.uk/blog/2024/horizon-it-scandal-repeating-patterns/

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 January 2024 10:36 (ten months ago) link

Can't wait for AI to sort this out.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 January 2024 10:36 (ten months ago) link

put it on the blockchain

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 January 2024 16:34 (ten months ago) link

read this and thought it cant possibly be true

If you read the witness statement from David McDonnell, an engineering manager on one part of the system, you’ll get a sense of why it was so bad: poor software development practices, bad release management, no testing, no support from leadership to do it right etc.

i followed the link no unit testing standards that could mean anything

There were no development standards or methodology, coding practices, peer reviews, unit testing standards, design specifications ni place. In fact this team was like the wild west.

but there it is no unit testing incredible, you can only tip your cap

12. I understood the underlying cause of concerns to be that the bid had been won using a prototype which had then been further developed upon instead of starting afresh properly. Additionally, there had been a lack of formalised, signed-off designs, a lack of discipline, a lack of professional qualifications in key positions, a total disengagement of the chief architect Gareth Jenkins, poor coding standards, no methodology in place and no unit testing. The issues were critical, making the product unstable and were known to everyone in the building.

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 January 2024 16:45 (ten months ago) link

I think this is not only ai generated but all the "comments" are too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH69jVSvo3Q

― | (Latham Green), Thursday, January 11, 2024 3:30 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

frogbs, Sunday, 14 January 2024 16:46 (ten months ago) link

oops what I meant to say was that comment section is incredibly creepy

frogbs, Sunday, 14 January 2024 16:47 (ten months ago) link

i hate monkeys theyre so nasty

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 January 2024 16:49 (ten months ago) link


This is UK specific but this blog covers lots of the failures in the build and design of IT systems.

Note the bit on management's lack of understanding and curiosity on how systems work, even at a high level. A lot of them just want to see cost to be gone. If anything that stuff needs more investment in people, and intelligence at management level, to make systems work with a smaller number of errors.

https://dafyddvaughan.uk/blog/2024/horizon-it-scandal-repeating-patterns/

― xyzzzz__, Sunday, January 14, 2024 10:36 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

just to add Dafydd is a genuine authority on this and was responsible for a lot of the best of GOV.UK - I've only directly worked with him a little but ime he's excellent and respected by everyone.

woof, Sunday, 14 January 2024 18:08 (ten months ago) link

oh yeah bad software engineering is less endemic now but for years people would decide to replace entire important systems by rewriting the entire thing from fresh specs without delving into what the current system did and what was undocumented. I worked parallel to a group doing that at one point, and some contractors I worked with had been on a project at Wells Fargo that did that with their mortgage system

I’m probably overstating it but I heard the new mortgage system, which was probably five years in the works with a zillion contractors on it was shelved after about two weeks and they had no good way to put the mortgages that were originated in the new system back into the old system

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 14 January 2024 19:42 (ten months ago) link

The history of this stuff is full of sales-y bullshit and contractors finding gold at the end of the rainbow.

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just to add Dafydd is a genuine authority on this and was responsible for a lot of the best of GOV.UK - I've only directly worked with him a little but ime he's excellent and respected by everyone.

― woof, Sunday, 14 January 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Found him through the bad site. Going to give him a follow.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 January 2024 08:55 (ten months ago) link

Dafydd offers unique and excellent perspectives on respected software engineering

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 15 January 2024 12:27 (ten months ago) link

I love marketing

Effective accelerationism be like pic.twitter.com/Kj3PLyPhJA

— Mattie Colquhoun (@xenogothic) January 15, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 January 2024 14:12 (ten months ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 15 January 2024 14:24 (ten months ago) link

poor Taosif

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 15 January 2024 20:09 (ten months ago) link

i think it's going to be interesting to see if the horizon thing results wider awareness of the likely harms of algorithmic decision making relative to e.g. the debate in the US.

if so it comes at the worst possible time from the point of view of silicon valley vcs trying to sell ai dogshit to the uk government while governments are writing "ai law". IIUC the palantir / nhs thing is a done deal, but if the horizon scandal was in the news a year ago that's the kind of deal that could have been held up or abandoned in this climate.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:18 (nine months ago) link

The dogshit is really coming through, even on low levels. Last week a little provider was pitching an AI guidance solution to the gov programme I'm in at the moment - took 20 seconds to answer first question and immediately got 'no that's wrong' from an expert. Refused to answer second question. This was with questions written by the provider.
It was clearly just a GPT trained on a bit of specific guidance, so no solutions for hallucination or consistency when asked. Didn't even get into 'what are you charging and what value are you adding?'.
Did a frankly amazing job of making guidance writers (me) look good and necessary. Agreed to try and help with improvements, so that's useful for the CV.
No sense in getting complacent, but a useful bit of calibration for me.

woof, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:45 (nine months ago) link

theres just no way for llms to know what theyre talking about, its guessing all the way down

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:49 (nine months ago) link

People under Dunning Kruger effect using tools that have no self awareness, but are almost definitionally a sort of DK effect, and also a data aggregation training model that has no ability to actually distinguish true from false. It’s like what can go wrong

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 16:30 (nine months ago) link

pretty interesting how slow the “progress” on llms has gotten eh friends

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:20 (nine months ago) link

using the latest ai tech to generate graphical resources

https://i.imgur.com/o3jkafn.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:00 (nine months ago) link

(illustrator does have ai tools now, have not tried yet)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:02 (nine months ago) link

true ai success story from last night:

https://i.imgur.com/5v0GVje.png

i have found chatgpt useful for loads of things like that, but maybe i'm just more forgetful than yall

z_tbd, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:11 (nine months ago) link

pretty interesting how slow the “progress” on llms has gotten eh friends

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, January 16, 2024 12:20 PM (one hour ago)

gpt4 (the paid version) is definitely better than the publicly available gpt3.5 version (based on a few examples that friends with paid subscripts have shown me)

, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:18 (nine months ago) link

xp damn it gave you the first google result for “documentary punk bands los angeles 1980s” we’ve got one instance where it measures up to

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:24 (nine months ago) link

i like to give my pal chatgpt a chance to warm up on a couple of easy ones before i get to the inevitable recommendation for today's lucky numbers

z_tbd, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:32 (nine months ago) link

its fine for things that it doesnt matter if its wrong, which is not most things but is if youre trying to remember the name of something because youll know if the answer is right when you see it, the repo man answer is funny cause the movie is def not about la punk bands but it does have a sick soundtrack that meets the definition

lets say youd never heard about those movies someone had just told you that there was such a thing as cool 80s LA punk bands and you asked chatgpt to recommend you a movie about them, which would be kind of a weird thing to do but still, and it said repo man and youre watching it waiting for it to be about cool 80s LA punk bands but instead its about aliens guys who repossess cars and plate of shrimp youd be like wtf, tho you wouldve seen a great film so maybe its ok lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:34 (nine months ago) link

here are some other cool things we could check out

Music Albums:

"London Calling" by The Clash
"Unknown Pleasures" by Joy Division
"Rumours" by Fleetwood Mac
"Purple Rain" by Prince and The Revolution

TV Shows:

"Twin Peaks" (original series)
"The Twilight Zone" (original series)
"Black Mirror"
"Stranger Things"

Books:

"1984" by George Orwell
"Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley
"Neuromancer" by William Gibson
"Siddhartha" by Hermann Hesse

Video Games:

"Fallout: New Vegas"
"The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time"
"BioShock"
"Mass Effect 2"

Artists/Artwork:

Salvador Dalí's surrealistic paintings
Banksy's street art
Keith Haring's pop art

Movies (Apart from "Repo Man"):

"Blade Runner"
"A Clockwork Orange"
"Donnie Darko"
"Akira" (anime)

Cult Classics:

"The Big Lebowski"
"Fight Club"
"Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"

Podcasts:

"Serial"
"Welcome to Night Vale"
"Radiolab"
"How I Built This"

z_tbd, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:42 (nine months ago) link

damn, really hitting the deep cuts

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:47 (nine months ago) link

chatgpt is basic and thats ok

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:50 (nine months ago) link

I'd propose along the lines of the Turing test, a kind of metric based on whether you would trust the answer more than from, say Rudy Giuliani.

Like, is Repo Man worse than the answer Giuliani would give? Would you trust Giuliani's medical advice more?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 19:51 (nine months ago) link

Rudy Giuliani's favorite movie is North

z_tbd, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:24 (nine months ago) link

With a little nudging, ChatGPT is really good at generating absurdist comedic sketches (e.g. the transcript I generated about a newly-ripped George Burns going on the Tonight Show ostensibly to promote Oh God! but instead smashing Johnny's desk in a fit of roid rage). This is literally the only shit that this shit should do or be able to do, and the quicker the world realizes this the better.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:29 (nine months ago) link

like good meaning bad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:30 (nine months ago) link

I got ChatGPT to generate an article about Justin Trudeau eating a chipmunk on live TV, I think we should encourage that type of usage

the new drip king (DJP), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:40 (nine months ago) link

"A few months ago I told the American people Justin Trudeau did not eat a chipmunk on live TV. My heart and my best intentions tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not."

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:49 (nine months ago) link


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