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guess that's why he's writing unreadable screeds about endorsing Dean Phillips

if ackman wasn’t worth a zillion dollars he’d be one of the many posters constantly making excuses about why they can’t be normal

i like neri oxman's art.

on chapo they said she makes "yarn art for rich people" and i don't think that is true at all.

i understand there is a broader ideological battle here where oxman and her husband are on the wrong side. this is just sort of a separate point.

agreed, her stuff has much more of a giant paper weight for rich people aesthetic

like Chihuly and any number of others, Oxman and her fans have mistaken “design” and “decor” for “art.”

That isn’t a value judgment on decor and design— we need quality stuff in those realms too!

the vast chihuly hanging piece in the entrance hall to the V&A is tbf p striking (and of course the V&A is a museum of design and decor) but these days when you view it from the nearby balcony it is often also p strikingly *dusty*: evidently they are afraid of taking feather brooms to it too often in case it comes crashing down on the reception desk below

Like that piano that used to hang suspended in the entrance to the Tate

one percent inspiration, forty-nine percent perspiration, fifty percent considering the logistics of keeping it spick and span after you've gone

I’ve always loathed Chihuly for looking like stoner wax art gentrified for the world’s most boring liberals.

(i mean i make fun of this stuff all the time, i was just trying to not be a dick)

(i don’t think Chihuly or Oxman are good designers or decorators)

https://i.imgur.com/2p6b6Xi.png

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My sense of Chihuly is that his work always impresses people, but this is due to it being colorful and obviously requiring plenty of technical skill to make. But being impressed by it should not be mistaken for enjoying it. I don't enjoy it.

I think his stuff is just ugly.

The only time I found any enjoyment in Chihuly's work was touring his exhibit by the Space Needle, where it was like enveloping yourself in the stoned alien landscape and less about a kind of ugly "focal" point in another context.

that pbs chihuly documentary with the tom tom club music was pretty ok

Footage of Chihuly and his team working >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the finished product

new synecdoche for Everything Wrong With Music and/or Music Journalism just dropped

saw a chihuly exhibit once, silly stuff IMHO

like Chihuly and any number of others, Oxman and her fans have mistaken “design” and “decor” for “art.”

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, January 17, 2024 7:28 AM (eight hours ago)

on the one hand, I'd be very curious to hear your definition of these things, but otoh I have don't have any interest in either of these people's work

i am meh about chihuly’s work being art but i am more than cheered that aesthetic snobs hate it

I am not a snob, despite some past pronouncements on this site. I like all kinds of stuff in most media forms.

What I don’t like is what artless rich people, tech yups, and corporations deem “inoffensive” art, or what I would call decoration. It’s offensively bland and bad.

You’re a snob and that’s fine be proud of it

You’re a snob

As we are now dealing in labeling people, pray tell what would your label be?

i tend to agree with u table i think it is v often bland, tho sometimes it is not quite that to me. part of me is pretty enraptured by elaborate or even like, baroque process, and i think there's so much implied, necessary process in some of his pieces. and i tend to find some art in some of that necessary process, if done well. even if it is not transgressive, challenging, or offensive. even if it seems to some like mere decoration. no accounting for my bad taste, for sure.

The mask she designed for Bjork was kind of cool.

I find her self-importance far more objectionable than her art.

Yeah, that's my feelings on like 99% of the art world.

Hunt3r, that makes sense— I can admire the process behind something while also thinking it is objectively not interesting qua art. Chihuly (and much glass craft) is a good example.

In the end, I don’t really think the problem is with what’s being made— it’s that at a certain point, “craft” became a naughty word and everyone started calling the mugs they made on the weekend or the elaborate pieces that Chihuly’s studio makes “Art,” when in the past it would be described as (and admired for its) craft.

My best friend is a professional ceramicist. They make functional things and art pieces, and while both are part of their practice, there’s a huge difference between them.

Oxman exists at the point where design, craft, and technology meet. I just don’t find it very interesting, provocative, or cool— it’s empty stuff from someone who has little sense of art, but a lot of aesthetic smarts.

obviously the incentive to humor rich people plays a huge part in shaping the art world but the mit media lab seems like a particularly pure example of that, mit and rich people coming together to, in this case, produce art (small orbs), it sounds bad, and it is

the orbs need to be bigger, also they never gave one to me

❌ small orb
✅ extremely large orb

btw whats up with rich people and orbs feel like theres been a lot of orb stories over the last x number of years

the MSG Orb for instance

is there any saudi money going to the media lab? this could be part of some effort to create and refine orbs like the one Trump was touching

the saudi orb

https://i.imgur.com/noQZbw1.png

the crypto orb that steals your identity

https://i.imgur.com/p1HVU94.png

the msg orb

https://i.imgur.com/67YsEMf.png

here is a ball for you
rich person: no
here is a small art orb for you
rich person: yes thank you i need this

mit media lab small orb

https://i.imgur.com/jMJZ0Hq.png

https://i.imgur.com/X0c8g0p.png

All I got in this world is my orbs and my stock portfolio

*gazing upon my orbs* all that effort for what an admittedly insanely sick and huge orb collection

🎶 "orbs are the opposite of tunnels” 🎵

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/045/381/tj_mack.jpg

do your orbs even have adventures beyond the ultraworld bro?

went down a glass rabbit hole after all this talk about Oxman's orbs and Chihuly and now my instagram feed is just 90% dudes who make drug pipes

The only time I found any enjoyment in Chihuly's work was touring his exhibit by the Space Needle, where it was like enveloping yourself in the stoned alien landscape and less about a kind of ugly "focal" point in another context.

Yeah Chihuly's stoner aesthetic is what I enjoyed about the one big exhibition of his I saw, where you could walk through immersive tunnels lined with it. (I actually did it stoned iirc.) Silly but kinda fun and unobjectionable imo.

went down a glass rabbit hole after all this talk about Oxman's orbs and Chihuly and now my instagram feed is just 90% dudes who make drug pipes

ty tabes and also this thread suddenly overdelivered whoa

*returns orb to rest spot*

Classic understatement from the Met Office.

https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/18/met-office-metrouk-double-fisting-caption-twitter-x-forecast-britain-weather-forecast/