you're right, I must have missed the story: https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/middleeast/idf-ori-megidish-rescue-hamas-hostage-intl-hnk/index.html
there was some confusion in the original press release apparently:
An Israeli soldier who was abducted by Hamas has been rescued in a special joint operation, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) told CNN, the first successful hostage extrication since the militant group’s October 7 rampage.
In its initial announcement, the IDF said Pvt. Ori Megidish was “released.” But that was a translation error, IDF spokesperson Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus told CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Tuesday.
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 22:21 (one year ago)
by remarkable I guess I meant that it was remarkable how unsuccessful this operation has been at one of its stated goals.
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 22:30 (one year ago)
Our favourite phrase.
NOW - Netanyahu: "In the future, the state of Israel has to control the entire area from the river to the sea."pic.twitter.com/M0uyN4SOzW— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) January 18, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:15 (one year ago)
The IDF has been too busy to rescue hostages.
The Israeli military just blew up the University of Palestine in Gaza City with 315 mines. All the universities in Gaza have been damaged or destroyed. We need a full academic boycott. pic.twitter.com/nNStUTBc9e— Nicola Perugini (@PeruginiNic) January 17, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:34 (one year ago)
18-year-old Israeli Tal Mitnick, who refused mandatory military service last month in objection to Israel's war on Gaza, describes his time so far in Israeli military prison and the culture of warmaking in Israel. pic.twitter.com/JRIiUmdNiL— Democracy Now! (@democracynow) January 19, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 January 2024 08:33 (one year ago)
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700 Israeli @Tesla drivers came together to create a first of its kind lightshow in support of the more than 100 Israeli hostages being held captive in Gaza. #BringThemHomeNow 🎗️ pic.twitter.com/EtVNXHSqGJ— Israel ישראל 🇮🇱 (@Israel) January 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 January 2024 15:28 (one year ago)
IDF increases soldier death toll to 21 in past 24 hoursIsrael’s army has revised up its death toll and says a total of 21 soldiers were killed in an attack in central Gaza in the last 24 hours.
It makes it the largest single loss of life for the Israeli military since the war began.
Rear Adm Daniel Hagari, the chief military spokesperson, made the announcement on Tuesday, updating an earlier toll.
He said the soldiers were preparing explosives to demolish two buildings on Monday when a militant fired a rocket-propelled grenade at a tank nearby, setting off the explosion prematurely. The buildings collapsed on the soldiers.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 08:29 (one year ago)
Heartbreaking: After commenting on the deplorable conditions for pregnant Palestinian women in Gaza - the 20,000 babies born in the last 100 days, caesareans being performed w/out anesthetics, & increased numbers of still borns, UNICEF spokeswoman says: pic.twitter.com/k98f2BNbWv— James J. Zogby (@jjz1600) January 22, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 08:45 (one year ago)
V interesting explainer.
"While Iran has offered material support to the non-state actors within the axis, such assistance has not translated into the kind of exercise of power that characterises sponsor-proxy relationships. This view is shared by the US intelligence official Brian Katz, who has argued that Iran’s non-state allies “are no longer simply Iranian proxies. Rather, they have become a collection of ideologically aligned, militarily interdependent, mature political-military actors committed to mutual defence”. In essence, the nature of this alliance is organic and symbiotic, as opposed to transactional and hierarchical."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/23/houthis-hamas-israel-iran-axis-resistance
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:03 (one year ago)
So much about resilience. But this is important too.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2024/january/against-resilience
"Our loved ones in Gaza have not chosen this violence. No one chooses to be treated this unjustly. The reality is that many Palestinians in Gaza are trying to leave, to find safety wherever they can."
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 08:09 (one year ago)
Update: Tal Mitnick was just sentenced to 30 more days in prison. Photo by @OrenZiv_ pic.twitter.com/1EsaXinzMc— Nimrod Flaschenberg (@Nimrod_Flash) January 23, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 11:13 (one year ago)
Found this interview of Ami Ayalon interesting and certainly lucid from a former head of the Israel security services. It was in FRE in LeMonde so all you get is DeepL.
Some Israeli troops are beginning to disengage from Gaza, while the government promises a new, lower-intensity operational phase. Is this a turning point in the war against Hamas in Gaza, the beginning of its end?I think this question goes far beyond the details of this military campaign. Basically, what's the situation? Our problem lies in the tension between terror and human rights. All liberal democracies are confronted with a conflict between terrorist violence and fundamental rights, compounded by fear. When a person or a community feels fear, it will prioritize security over rights, especially when the rights are not its own, but those of others, those of a minority. So we give up the rights of a minority in the belief that we're going to fight terrorism. And we don't understand that one day, no doubt, we'll congratulate ourselves on having killed bad guys, but that we'll have lost our identity.
Is that what's happening right now in the war in Gaza?It's happening all the time, in Europe and the United States as well as in Israel. It's a worldwide phenomenon in liberal democracies. But let's talk about the Israeli case. What I'm trying to analyze is the concept of victory. When a democracy faces a terrorist group, it induces a different kind of victory. Today, most wars pit states not against other states, but against "organizations" (movements, rebellions, guerrillas, etc.). This means conflicts in which it is impossible to win as before, by obtaining a better political deal through military action.
What, then, is a victory in this context?A "terrorist organization" is never going to surrender by raising a white flag. You can kill Al-Qaeda members, but you can't make them disappear. In Gaza, it's the same: we're not fighting a state, we're fighting a terrorist organization. But we're not waging war on the Palestinians. There are Palestinians who support Hamas. They do so not because they adhere to the movement's religious ideology, but because they see Hamas as the only organization fighting for their freedom and an end to the Israeli occupation [in the occupied territories]. That's what's important to understand in order to imagine what's coming next.
The Israeli government refuses to envisage a clear solution for the "day after", in Gaza, the political order that will prevail after the war...The government's objectives are essentially military. In essence, the aim is to dismantle Hamas's military capabilities and remove the movement's political leadership. These are two objectives that the Israeli army is capable of achieving. But we are not masters of time. If the generals think it will take two years to achieve this, because it's a very complex type of war, will we have that much time?
Were there other ways of waging war?Yes, we can imagine other scenarios, but I think it's important to understand the need to have a project for the "day after". Without political objectives, war becomes an end in itself, not a means to an end. When war becomes its own end, it becomes war without end. If you can't develop political goals, you can't define what victory can be.
Are we approaching the "day after"?It's impossible to say. And, if there are no political goals, it's pointless.
What could be the basis for a political solution?We have only two options. Either one state for everyone, but that will never work. Islam and Judaism don't separate religion from statehood, that's part of our identity. I'm Jewish, and I want to live in a place that's in line with my rules of life, my traditions, my calendar and so on. The other solution is to have two states, in two distinct territories.
Does the war that began with the Hamas attack on October 7, 2023 allow us to envisage this prospect?We've reached a pivotal moment. Either we try for a two-state solution, trying to understand why we haven't achieved it so far, and bearing in mind that each side has its own reading of the events of the last thirty years. The Israelis say that they were ready to give up part of the land, with the idea of obtaining security in exchange, but that instead there was an Intifada [the second, in 2000, after the Oslo agreements of 1993], attacks, etc. The Palestinians, on the other hand, consider that they were ready to give up part of the land, with the idea of obtaining security in exchange, but that instead there was an Intifada [the second, in 2000, after the Oslo agreements of 1993], attacks, etc., etc. The Palestinians, on the other hand, feel that they aspired to have their own state, and that instead they have seen the creation of more settlements [in the occupied West Bank], more violence against them, more restrictions on their movements, etc. Both sides have felt betrayed by the Israeli government. Both sides felt betrayed, and convinced themselves of the need to fight all the time.
What would make a two-state solution more likely to succeed?Because, from now on, the only other solution is an explosion of violence. Today, most Israelis think that the path I advocate - that of peace - is impossible, that it won't work. I'm trying to explain to all those who say I'm wrong that, if we refuse peace, what lies ahead will be even more violent than on October 7.
Were you surprised by the Hamas attack that day?Two weeks before October 7, I gave a TV interview and told them: we're heading straight for a great wave of violence. The energy is there, you can feel it. You can see the rise in attacks on the West Bank. You can feel it in the speeches, the declarations. It's in the air. Instead of understanding what our enemies are telling us, our politicians are working to divide the Israelis, just to get elected. I hadn't imagined this attack, with its particularities, but I was certain, on the other hand, that we were heading for a major sequence of violence.
Can Israeli society hear what you're saying?I'm optimistic about civil society. I saw the way it demonstrated for ten months before the war, when Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu was trying to destroy our democracy with his justice reform. This is what we're going to see happening again as soon as the fighting stops, in the "day after". We have over 300,000 civilians in the army right now. When they come back, they'll be out in the streets.
What do you think they'll be demanding?When the Israelis return to the streets, I hope they will take up the three pillars of the demand for a real solution: security, democracy and an end to the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories. The three are inseparable. We have to fight for a Palestinian state, not because we love the Palestinians, but for our security and to save our identity.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
Israel isn’t a democracy nor a civil society, and that man’s accounts of the recent events is heavily skewed toward thinking of Israel in the most positive light.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 12:57 (one year ago)
Surely it's the privilege of having been in power that you can then spend your time answering interviews and advocating for values, but I thought it's a sign of what you could reasonably expect from an Israeli standpoint if things ever open up. Which I'm not optimistic about, as there are plenty of ways a deadlock can resolve in the worse direction, but if a former Shin Bet can imagine it, I'm happy to try to do too.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 13:58 (one year ago)
Confirmed: The International Court of Justice will deliver its ruling on the provisional measures requested by South Africa 🇿🇦 against Israel 🇮🇱 on Friday, 1:00 p.m. CET (2:00 pm Jerusalem, 7 a.m. eastern for US, etc).— Law for Palestine | القانون من أجل فلسطين (@Law4Palestine) January 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 18:21 (one year ago)
“In memory of the 21 fallen, we blow up 21 terrorist houses”.Israeli soldiers filmed the moment twenty-one houses were destroyed in Gaza.Israel’s military said on Tuesday that at least 21 of its soldiers were killed in a single attack in the Gaza Strip, the deadliest day for… pic.twitter.com/CoHNM1Jnt0— Middle East Eye (@MiddleEastEye) January 25, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 January 2024 10:22 (one year ago)
Israel isn’t a democracy nor a civil society,
I'm not sure on civil society but its surely a democracy? A flawed one but still a democracy, Netanyahu can surely and easily lose an election just as much as he can win one. Who is disenfranchised in Israel compared to Belgium, Latvia, the US or Italy?
Unless you mean people in the occupied territories don't get to vote? I get that, but those places aren't Israel they're occupied territories and countries that occupy territories never give the people there access to democracy or rights (one of the many reasons why occupations are a bad idea and should be opposed)
― anvil, Friday, 26 January 2024 11:43 (one year ago)
I say this not to be argumentative, but because it matters because it makes Netanyahu removable that isn't true of a Putin. He can lose an election. I think this matters. It means different things are possible in terms of changing who is in power.
That brings up a different problem potentially, that what if the population continues to choose someone that does bad things, but thats not due to a lack of democracy, thats the manifestation of the democratic process in action
― anvil, Friday, 26 January 2024 11:51 (one year ago)
I’m sorry but “people in occupied territories never get full rights or a vote” isn’t the rousing defense of Israel as a democracy that you seem to think it is.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 26 January 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
Also some people in those territories very much do get full rights and a vote
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 26 January 2024 12:01 (one year ago)
Yes, but we know who those people are.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 26 January 2024 12:03 (one year ago)
anvil wasn't attempting a "rousing defense of Israel" ffs
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 26 January 2024 12:13 (one year ago)
The Spectator Index@spectatorindex·3mBREAKING: The International Court of Justice determines that South Africa does have standing in its case against Israel
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 January 2024 12:20 (one year ago)
wow at that ruling
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 January 2024 12:48 (one year ago)
🔴 UPDATE #Israel #Palestine #ICJ Court orders Israel take all measures to prevent genocide— Middle East Eye (@MiddleEastEye) January 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 January 2024 12:49 (one year ago)
To which they'll reply that they're already doing that.
― Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 26 January 2024 12:50 (one year ago)
A good thread on the ruling.
The president of the ICJ is Judge Joan Donoghue, former top legal advisor under Hillary Clinton at the State Department during the Obama Admin. She will imminently read the court's ruling on South Africa's request for emergency provisional measures in Israel genocide case.— jeremy scahill (@jeremyscahill) January 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 January 2024 12:55 (one year ago)
Going to be tragic for all the IDF soldiers who can’t post TikToks of themselves playing with the toys of dead children anymore
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 26 January 2024 13:12 (one year ago)
Israel will just ignore it, the interesting thing is what their supporters - like genocide experts, Germany - do and say about it
― Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 26 January 2024 13:23 (one year ago)
Have greatly enjoyed the moral grandstanding of Germany on this, I must say. Where are the former hosts of Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines? Maybe get Ratko Mladić in for his opinions?
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 26 January 2024 13:25 (one year ago)
Lots of people are making excuses. The ICJ can and has historically called for a ceasefire. In 2022, it demanded “Russia shall immediately suspend the military operation it commenced…” https://t.co/qRwNgWndCe pic.twitter.com/E2SC9WSr7F— Mohammed El-Kurd (@m7mdkurd) January 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 January 2024 13:52 (one year ago)
The ICJ's order may be of assistance to Palestinians in the UK who want to facilitate their family members' escape from Gaza. The Home Office arguably has a duty to grant Article 8 ECHR applications outside the Immigration Rules for family members facing genocide in Gaza.— Free Palestine (@FranckMagennis) January 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 January 2024 13:56 (one year ago)
"Itamar Ben-Gvir has responded to the ICJ ruling by tweeting: “Hague Shmague”. He was the first Israel official to comment after the court ended its reading."
Nice attitude.
― Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 26 January 2024 14:15 (one year ago)
Can we go back to the old thread title now?
― Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 26 January 2024 14:16 (one year ago)
“In memory of the 21 fallen, we blow up 21 terrorist houses”.
For a moment I thought this was an act of direct premeditated retaliation against random unarmed non-combatants for acts of war unconnected to them, which would be a serious war crime on the part of the IDF and by extension the State of Israel. But then I saw the word "terrorist" so I guess not.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:52 (one year ago)
The houses were radicalized by a hospital
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:55 (one year ago)
i think it was the 'curious indeed' that did it
― plax (ico), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:36 (one year ago)
Court of Justice: You must take all necessary steps to prevent a genocide.
Itamar Ben-Gvir: I can commit genocide if I want to. You're not the boss of me.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:39 (one year ago)
Golda Meir, 1969: "There was no such thing as Palestinians"Bezalel Smotrich, 2023: "There is no such thing as a Palestinian people"International Court of Justice, 2024: pic.twitter.com/QCKbdi7QU7— Alonso Gurmendi (@Alonso_GD) January 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 January 2024 20:56 (one year ago)
THREAD: The death of 3 US soldiers and injury of at least 2 dozen others, by a drone attack in Jordan, close to the border with Syria, represents a huge escalation by PMU groups and the Resistance Axis 1/— Amal Saad (@amalsaad_lb) January 28, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 January 2024 20:20 (one year ago)
Proportion of Israelis backing Netanyahu down to 23%, lowest ever. If elections were held now, Likud would be swept out of office in favor of a Gantz-led coalition which would also toss Smotrich and Ben Gvir out of the government. That's one reason, probably the most important reason, Netanyahu is doing everything he can to keep the war alight, so that there *won't* be an election.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 04:07 (one year ago)
do you have a link to the poll?
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 04:22 (one year ago)
one thing I don't understand is why Netanyahu would be forced to call an election even after the war ended. He has a majority coalition, and I don't see why political pressure would force enough of them to defect for them to lose the majority, especially since their short-term political survival depends on it.
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 04:25 (one year ago)
Dystopian. Evil. A checkpoint with a camera/facial recognition and a loudspeaker tormenting Palestinian refugees as they are forced to flee their homes: “Khaled Mashal did you send your suit to the dry cleaning today?” followed by “women and children pass only.” A genocide. pic.twitter.com/D0hWRSAMCH— Hebh Jamal (@hebh_jamal) January 30, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 14:47 (one year ago)
He has a majority coalition
He has a majority coalition because he has steadfastly refused to commit to a "day after the war" plan. He will lose the right-wing parties he despises but electorally requires once he makes clear he is not going to reoccupy Gaza and settle it with Jews. He perhaps thinks he can land on some kind of plan of indefinite military occupation where the territory isn't ethnically cleansed but every Israeli family is sending their teenagers to stand guard over an immiserated and hostile population basically forever, and somehow get the Israeli public and the Smotrich/Ben Gvir faction to both stay on board -- in fact I think he'd get neither.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 16:32 (one year ago)
every Israeli family is sending their teenagers to stand guard over an immiserated and hostile population basically forever
that seems to be the plan huh?
I don't think he's getting the Israeli public back on board anytime soon, but my worry is that if his political survival depends on doing whatever the Kahanists want, his incentive is to go along with it.
― symsymsym, Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:07 (one year ago)
if his political survival depends on doing whatever the Kahanists want
Yesh gvul. It's one thing in the aftermath of the shock and horror of what happened on October 7 but in the long term or even the medium term the public won't stand for Hebron times ten; especially when the haredi families aren't putting their children in harm's way. And already one of the haredi parties is threatening to quit the coalition if their kids' exemption from military service isn't codified into law. Barring another big attack I can't see any stable configuration of the current government.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 February 2024 01:22 (one year ago)
sounds like the Kahanists are threatening to bolt over any hostage deal, so maybe you're right about the coalition being unsteady. Hope you are, anyway
― symsymsym, Thursday, 1 February 2024 02:21 (one year ago)
THREAD: The West's defunding of UNRWA doesn't just contribute to genocide, but tacitly justifies it. The readiness with which it cut off Gazans' lifeline was shaped by Israel's conflation of UNRWA with Hamas, which in turn erases the distinction between civilians and combatants— Amal Saad (@amalsaad_lb) January 31, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 February 2024 10:37 (one year ago)
This is the woman at the Gaza settlement conference that was attended by many Israeli government ministers and governing coalition MPs. https://t.co/tRDVuflBHp— Séamus Malekafzali (@Seamus_Malek) February 1, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 February 2024 13:13 (one year ago)