Elon Musk

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I was thinking about where to place Elon on a spectrum of charlatanry -- on some level actually shipping ridiculous promises like a truck made of baking sheet pans, however late and mispriced or underspec'ed, puts him ahead of someone like Elizabeth Holmes, but probably more people will unnecessarily die from Elon's products than from Holmes (but part of that is Holmes got stopped)?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 January 2024 20:39 (nine months ago) link

You have to figure in Elon's ability to generate hordes of followers who will defend his charlatanry no matter how outlandish.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 January 2024 20:50 (nine months ago) link

Dude just went to a concentration camp site to do a photo op. That is a pretty high roll of a 20 sided die of a$$hole.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Monday, 22 January 2024 22:04 (nine months ago) link

its actually worse than that immediately after he gave a presentation arguing that X would've prevented the holocaust

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:14 (nine months ago) link

my stepmom got me his biography for Xmas, and I quietly re-gifted it to my cousin's husband without reading a word beyond the title

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:31 (nine months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:35 (nine months ago) link

it's okay he can fall back on his profits from twit-oh no

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:11 (nine months ago) link

haha

dead precedents (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:12 (nine months ago) link

(chortles gleefully) Musk may slip partway down the list of the top ten richest humans!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:26 (nine months ago) link

watch this if you want to see a cybertruck get smoked by a small subaru crossover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AH4eyJCwbE

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:00 (nine months ago) link

a fun read, not really about musk but about the biographer, walter isaacson

https://thepointmag.com/criticism/very-ordinary-men/

ꙮ (map), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:43 (nine months ago) link

biographer / charlatan bracket:
michael lewis vs isaacson vs SBF vs musk

I'm inclined to think SBF was less of a charlatan than musk but not sure why. Maybe he's just in a more huckster-y field to begin with?
Also, ironically maybe there's "utility" in his inadvertently exposing tenured philosophers as craven hucksters themselves by association.
With Elon, I guess he revealed who Grimes really was.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:15 (nine months ago) link

oh damn, sam kriss is writing again? good for him waiting until everyone forgot about the sexual harassment allegations

ivy., Friday, 26 January 2024 18:19 (nine months ago) link

Elon’s making noise about Neuralink so people will stop paying attention to Tesla’s stock drop, right? Big “our tunnel is on track” energy

In any case, time for a rethinking of the Michael Crichton pulpy sci-fi work, The Terminal Man

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:52 (nine months ago) link

elon has put a chip in my brain, i can now self host windows server nt

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:55 (nine months ago) link

has any independent testing been done of this or are we all just supposed to take Elon at his word again?

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 16:57 (nine months ago) link

seems the only info is a tweet by elon saying they did it lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:03 (nine months ago) link

they performed the surgery while riding on the hyperloop on the way to announce the new generation of teslas

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:27 (nine months ago) link

i hope he is ok

BREAKING: Elon Musk cannot keep his $55 billion compensation package from Tesla, as judge sides with shareholders. https://t.co/bGRhzIPK8P

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 30, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:27 (nine months ago) link

What are the chances that has teeth?

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:28 (nine months ago) link

Interesting caption on that photo

File - Tesla CEO Elon Musk waves as he arrives at the annual political festival Atreju, organized by the Giorgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy political party, in Rome, Dec. 16, 2023.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:33 (nine months ago) link

What are the chances that has teeth?

― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, January 30, 2024 5:28 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

same court and judge that made him buy twitter

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:39 (nine months ago) link

🫡

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:44 (nine months ago) link

It's OK, Elon will just give himself cyberteeth and bite back.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:47 (nine months ago) link

Goddamit
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Jaws_%28James_Bond%29.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 22:48 (nine months ago) link

Funding secured

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:02 (nine months ago) link

how bad do you have to fuck up to be mad at the state that exists solely to facilitate corporate functions

Never incorporate your company in the state of Delaware

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 30, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:51 (nine months ago) link

$55 billion LOL

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:53 (nine months ago) link

an honest wage for an honest days work

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:58 (nine months ago) link

Well he finally tweeted something that made me laugh

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:42 (nine months ago) link

Though it’s got nothing on Trump’s “if you need legal services I strongly suggest you DONT hire Michael Cohen” one

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:42 (nine months ago) link

A Delaware judge on Tuesday ruled in favor of the investors who challenged billionaire Elon Musk’s $56bn Tesla pay package as excessive, a court filing showed. The judge found that Musk’s compensation was inappropriately set by the electric-vehicle maker’s board and struck down the package. If the decision survives any potential appeal, the Tesla board will have to come up with a new compensation package for Musk.

Maybe they can agree to something more reasonable and austere, like $45 BILLION

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:46 (nine months ago) link

salute Richard Tornetta

Isn’t this the Board’s decision to make?

The suit was filed by Richard Tornetta, some unknown heavy metal drummer who owned only 9 shares at the time the suit was filed!

How does a drummer with 9 shares even know enough about the compensation package to file a suit? Very fishy https://t.co/DZ82pXu6AH

— Milton Matthews (@MiltonMatthew16) January 30, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:50 (nine months ago) link

this guy's band photo from metal archives presented without comment
https://i.imgur.com/4xKciR6.jpeg

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:00 (nine months ago) link

lookin good fellas

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:03 (nine months ago) link

how sad do you have to be to be a twitter investigator caping your way to argue for Elon Musk getting $56 billion

omar little, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:06 (nine months ago) link

I look forward to Musk trying to turn Tesla into a Wyoming LLC or something

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:14 (nine months ago) link

Tesla Motors (Jersey) Ltd.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:14 (nine months ago) link

"Come to Nevada, we'll let you do whatever the fuck you want"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:17 (nine months ago) link

Musk rueing incorporating tesla in Delaware and omitting to mention that he wasn’t there when Tesla was incorporated.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:29 (nine months ago) link

he prob believes he was at this point

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:31 (nine months ago) link

i skimmed the ruling quickly and my gut says there's a decent chance this gets overturned on appeal because delaware loves capitalism

but the facts here are pretty bad... delaware's in a tough place

, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 05:14 (nine months ago) link

Saying “I was negotiating with myself” doesn’t seem great

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:26 (nine months ago) link

salute Richard Tornetta

Read this as Tonetta and now extremely disappointed.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:57 (nine months ago) link

think what ultimately may be hard to reconcile is that delaware loves shareholders... so here, this comp plan was good for shareholders since it forecast 10x'ing the stock price. but it was also bad for shareholders because it diluted shareholders by giving a bunch of stock to musk.

so is it good or bad for shareholders where they could 10x their stock (good) at the expense of some dilution (bad)? is setting a goal of 10x enough to overcome bad process? will delaware abide seeing companies start incorporating in nevada?

, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 14:52 (nine months ago) link

Presumably they easily saw that the forecast of 10x stock price was as thorough a piece of bullshit as every other Tesla/Musk forecast.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 23:14 (nine months ago) link

You can't get much past a heavy metal drummer.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 23:16 (nine months ago) link


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