v behind on this thread, but anyone know any good writing on models for describing GenAI in terms of information theory/cybernetics? i’m reading ruyer on cybernetics, mainly looking at the problem of the origin of information in cybernetic theory, and while my instinct is that genAI *can* be captured/described by cybernetic theory, i feel GenAI does require such a description or some additional work at the margin (ie it can’t be captured entirely by pre-existing thinking).
― Fizzles, Saturday, 10 February 2024 12:38 (nine months ago) link
king ludd (has surely come)
https://www.theautopian.com/a-mob-just-vandalized-and-set-a-waymo-self-driving-car-on-fire-and-the-videos-are-nuts/
― mark s, Sunday, 11 February 2024 18:59 (nine months ago) link
Hell yeah
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 February 2024 20:35 (nine months ago) link
It’s not clear who exactly attacked this Waymo in Chinatown on the Lunar New Year, or what their motivation was...
Just spit-balling here, but could it be that self-driving cars are a highly visible symbol of Silicon Valley's wealth and political ascendancy over the Bay area in general and SF in particular and their presence on the streets isn't just a constant reminder of this, but is perceived by people on the street as a danger and an insult imposed on them by those who possess that wealth and power? Or maybe it was just a mysterious, aberrant and irrational act and we'll never know what possessed that mob to do that.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 11 February 2024 20:49 (nine months ago) link
the guy who wrote that piece/runs that blog has a tongue coated in boots
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 February 2024 20:56 (nine months ago) link
i enjoyed his evident unease
― mark s, Sunday, 11 February 2024 21:09 (nine months ago) link
my favorite part is where the commenters liken the people desecrating the vehicle to “rapists” and “torturers” lmfao
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 February 2024 21:13 (nine months ago) link
Lol did someone fuck the car
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 11 February 2024 21:39 (nine months ago) link
I remember reading an Ebert review of Crash (the Ballard one) which defended its non-porn status on the basis that no one would actually want to fuck a car but uhm...
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 11 February 2024 21:51 (nine months ago) link
“hey elon, the peasants are revolting!”
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:22 (nine months ago) link
in the age of the internet it is no longer possible to believe that there aren't people who want to fuck cars
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:23 (nine months ago) link
in the age of ai and crispr or whatever i have no doubt someone to actually go it and produce horrifying offspring or allegations. virtually of course.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:34 (nine months ago) link
“go and do it” christ i cannot even type unfunny shit right. but this was serious.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:35 (nine months ago) link
I’ve seen Crash and Titane and gone to a car show or too. “Muscle” cars hmm yeah I see you there, buddy
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 11 February 2024 23:33 (nine months ago) link
oh wait, forgot The Counselor (director’s cut of course)
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 11 February 2024 23:34 (nine months ago) link
https://us.rule34.xxx//images/655/6528d0aa955fda17fe8773954c3f7a2bef943eb8.png
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 11 February 2024 23:39 (nine months ago) link
hey now I’m not a pervert
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 12 February 2024 00:12 (nine months ago) link
This is beautiful, to me.
https://www.wired.com/story/confessions-of-an-ai-clickbait-kingpin/
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 13:25 (nine months ago) link
lmao this is great
https://www.columbiamissourian.com/news/state_news/missouri-appeals-court-fines-litigant-after-finding-fake-ai-generated-cases-cited-in-filings/article_e4cc108a-cac1-11ee-b9ca-2fa1b1765ce7.html
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 15:57 (nine months ago) link
Awesome, much respect
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 17:09 (nine months ago) link
Well you've got to give him all of the respect due to any entrepreneur who's found a niche market and exploted it (that is absolutely zero respect)
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 17:25 (nine months ago) link
imo the core quote of that Wired story xyzzzz linked:
A plum domain’s initial benefit—a strong reputation with Google and a built-in audience—dwindles quickly as Vujo populates it with content primarily designed to snare search engines rather than interest people. AI content is successful not because it is replacing the work of human writers but because it coasts on the value created by their past labor.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:50 (nine months ago) link
Private equity firms like Bain Capital have long been using the same basic strategy as that Serbian clickbait guy. They buy companies with classic established brand names associated with reliable quality, degrade the products heavily, cut prices moderately, revive profits based on gulling customers into thinking they are getting the same quality the brand always delivered in the past, but cheaper, then dump the company before the public gets wise to the changes. Main difference is that the web sites he buys are small potatoes. They don't even have pension funds to raid.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:06 (nine months ago) link
I saw a job listing at LinkedIn for people to take photos per their assignment, with each one that is accepted earning them $1. The company is apparently building a database of images to use for AI, with no copyright issues.
― nickn, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:11 (nine months ago) link
I'm not saying Generative AI will never pass for real but the fact some people boosting it now think this comedic shit makes him "feel like he's in the room and can smell the candles" and "reminds him of his own grandmother" makes me wonder
Video #3Prompt: A grandmother with neatly combed grey hair stands behind a colorful birthday cake with numerous candles at a wood dining room table, expression is one of pure joy and happiness, with a happy glow in her eye.She leans forward and blows out the candles with a… pic.twitter.com/3M4Ey3503t— GREG ISENBERG (@gregisenberg) February 15, 2024
― Alba, Friday, 16 February 2024 09:11 (eight months ago) link
i think MR James would love this
When designer aims for 'fluid UI' but takes it too literally.#sora pic.twitter.com/cUPt9vARjk— Yasir (●ᴗ●) (@yasirbugra) February 15, 2024
― koogs, Friday, 16 February 2024 09:12 (eight months ago) link
Oh my god, the cake video is terrifying
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 16 February 2024 14:48 (eight months ago) link
As someone says in the comments, it's very old-couple-laughing-maniacally-in-Mulholland-Drive. And the hands of the woman next to her!!
― Alba, Friday, 16 February 2024 16:24 (eight months ago) link
The table bisecting the background dude on the right is also disconcerting
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:45 (eight months ago) link
Far left lady's clapping is ... wrong
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:33 (eight months ago) link
After months of resisting, Air Canada was forced to give a partial refund to a grieving passenger who was misled by an airline chatbot inaccurately explaining the airline's bereavement travel policy.
On the day Jake Moffatt's grandmother died, Moffat immediately visited Air Canada's website to book a flight from Vancouver to Toronto. Unsure of how Air Canada's bereavement rates worked, Moffatt asked Air Canada's chatbot to explain.
The chatbot provided inaccurate information, encouraging Moffatt to book a flight immediately and then request a refund within 90 days. In reality, Air Canada's policy explicitly stated that the airline will not provide refunds for bereavement travel after the flight is booked. Moffatt dutifully attempted to follow the chatbot's advice and request a refund but was shocked that the request was rejected.
Moffatt tried for months to convince Air Canada that a refund was owed, sharing a screenshot from the chatbot that clearly claimed:
If you need to travel immediately or have already travelled and would like to submit your ticket for a reduced bereavement rate, kindly do so within 90 days of the date your ticket was issued by completing our Ticket Refund Application form.
Unhappy with this resolution, Moffatt refused the coupon and filed a small claims complaint in Canada's Civil Resolution Tribunal.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/air-canada-must-honor-refund-policy-invented-by-airlines-chatbot/
― octobeard, Saturday, 17 February 2024 00:40 (eight months ago) link
That chair video has Rubber vibes. Chair (The Chair That Kills People) coming soon from A24
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 17 February 2024 00:44 (eight months ago) link
there were a spate of Twitter posts, maybe mentioned upthread, where people had got chat bots to sell them cars for $1. i wonder if those will also hold up in court.
― koogs, Saturday, 17 February 2024 09:46 (eight months ago) link
I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1. pic.twitter.com/aq4wDitvQW— Chris Bakke (@ChrisJBakke) December 17, 2023
― koogs, Saturday, 17 February 2024 09:48 (eight months ago) link
That grandma clip looks like Chris Cunningham made it for an Aphex Twin video
― Against The 80s, Saturday, 17 February 2024 09:59 (eight months ago) link
Jack the Ripper’s face finally revealed — here’s what AI thinks the notorious killer looked like https://t.co/IIpl4pewOW pic.twitter.com/zpDx8UcdTc— New York Post (@nypost) February 17, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 February 2024 15:13 (eight months ago) link
Prepared to grudgingly accept AI if it means we lock away Johnny Depp
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 17 February 2024 17:50 (eight months ago) link
harnessing the power of machine learning to reveal saucy jack was hot stalin all alonghttps://i.stack.imgur.com/qDbU1.jpg
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2024 18:44 (eight months ago) link
Science fiction writers: The legal case for robot personhood will be made when a robot goes on trial for murder.Reality: The legal case for robot personhood will be made when an airline wants to get out of paying a refund. https://t.co/aTGdErEr9g pic.twitter.com/4JiVLZRhq2— Chris Farnell (@thebrainofchris) February 17, 2024
― Alba, Sunday, 18 February 2024 08:44 (eight months ago) link
There is precedent!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deodand
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:01 (eight months ago) link
mission: make robots actually fear own deathside effect: creation of procreationql imperative and impulse.solution: imprisonment and capital punishment.hey i’m only human.born to— nah
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:10 (eight months ago) link
they should’ve just said that the chatbot that provided the wrong advice has been.. terminated
― scanner darkly, Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:45 (eight months ago) link
i'm deodanding better than I ever did
― kinder, Sunday, 18 February 2024 23:11 (eight months ago) link
https://media.beehiiv.com/cdn-cgi/image/fit=scale-down,format=auto,onerror=redirect,quality=80/uploads/asset/file/af79fdb5-5696-4095-bb60-682d45bcd45c/Screenshot_2024-02-19_at_2.52.45_PM.png?t=1708365198
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 February 2024 20:03 (eight months ago) link
an agile Indian police officer with really weird hands...
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 19 February 2024 20:28 (eight months ago) link
that's... a real movie
― gbx, Monday, 19 February 2024 21:41 (eight months ago) link
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/23/1082189/data-poisoning-artists-fight-generative-ai/I'm interested in this "data poisoning tool" - could it be easily overridden?
― kinder, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:56 (eight months ago) link
I can't imagine the AI people won't find a way around data poisoning as it currently is, but if the data poisoning people keep at it and keep finding new ways to poison the data, it could become an interesting arms race.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:38 (eight months ago) link
If I understand their aim correctly, it’s obfuscation. I assume it’ll work in the sense that nobody will bother to mitigate the obfuscation. Nevertheless, I don’t think it matters from a “foundational model” perspective, unless model architectures dramatically change, as performance has been seeing diminishing returns from increasingly large dataset sizes.
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:47 (eight months ago) link
there's a twitter link uothread 3 weeks ago saying nightshade is easily defeated.
― ledge, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:01 (eight months ago) link