It's fine to donate, but remember that not a lot of it will get in. Zionist Israelis are holding demonstrations— last night they held a rave— preventing aid from getting in.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:04 (nine months ago) link
one that I donated to and recommended earlier is anera.org
they've only ever been focused on helping victims or war in the region, and they are transparent about their daily activities:
https://www.anera.org/blog/gaza-and-west-bank-response-log/
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:03 (nine months ago) link
honestly hard for me to even process how sick and barbaric Israeli civilians blockading humanitarian aid is
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:04 (nine months ago) link
seems extremely under-reported by the North American media too, this is the only times piece I could find about it and it's about how Israel is "stepping up efforts" to stop the "protesters"
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/28/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-aid-kerem-shalom.html
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:10 (nine months ago) link
The goons at Kerem Shalom are not going to stop the IDF from doing as it pleases.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:19 (nine months ago) link
thanks for the recommendations
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 14:57 (nine months ago) link
anera looks good
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 14:58 (nine months ago) link
jfc
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/10/gaza-aid-blockade-protest-kerem-shalom/
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:53 (nine months ago) link
Israeli minister blocking flour Bibi promised Biden would be allowed into Gaza: https://www.axios.com/2024/02/13/israel-gaza-flour-shipment
imagine what the UNRWA could do with all that flour, chilling
― rob, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 18:49 (nine months ago) link
The teens, and a smattering of people in their 20s, have come from all over Israel. They say that humanitarian aid to Gaza helps Hamas, and they’ll block it even if it means innocents starve.Ben Shabat argues sugar and flour can be used to make bombs. “When you mix flour with potassium nitrate you get an explosive for a warhead,” he says. “Every pound of sugar and flour that goes into Gaza from Israel, we will get it back by the way of a rocket that will kill our children.”The tactic is also about starvation. “When a soldier is hungry, he’s not fighting so well.”And the children? “Nobody can say children are bad,” he says. But “the children from the past were murdering and raping and kidnapping” on Oct. 7.Others say the aid isn’t even necessary.“We heard they are giving them stuff that they don’t really, really need,” Attar says. “Like strawberries. I don’t think people there are crying for strawberries.”
Ben Shabat argues sugar and flour can be used to make bombs. “When you mix flour with potassium nitrate you get an explosive for a warhead,” he says. “Every pound of sugar and flour that goes into Gaza from Israel, we will get it back by the way of a rocket that will kill our children.”
The tactic is also about starvation. “When a soldier is hungry, he’s not fighting so well.”
And the children? “Nobody can say children are bad,” he says. But “the children from the past were murdering and raping and kidnapping” on Oct. 7.
Others say the aid isn’t even necessary.
“We heard they are giving them stuff that they don’t really, really need,” Attar says. “Like strawberries. I don’t think people there are crying for strawberries.”
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:39 (nine months ago) link
I hadn't read the WaPo story before posting, fucking hell
― rob, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:53 (nine months ago) link
would the official diplomatic world reaction be any different if israel were using tactical nukes
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 01:36 (nine months ago) link
Young Israelis sounding awfully Hitler Youth there, tbrh.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 02:47 (nine months ago) link
That’s what happens when you build a ethno-fascist state based on subjugation of another group of people
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 03:04 (nine months ago) link
I keep thinking about how Jewish tradition includes all these rituals dedicated to reminding Jews of their traumatic history, when they were oppressed, killed, driven out of their homes, thousands of years ago. Every year, even non-observant Jews will tell the Haggadah etc. I can't help thinking that what's happening now is similarly traumatic and existential for Palestinians. That if they survive as a people at all, they will be telling stories about this time, in ritualised form perhaps, for hundreds of years. Or thousands.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 09:18 (nine months ago) link
Well, they already have that, the Nakba, or "ongoing Nakba" as it was already updated in the late 90s. Maybe the "ongoing, intensifying Nakba" now ? :(
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 09:36 (nine months ago) link
Yeah you're right, I mean it's a continuum I guess
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 09:51 (nine months ago) link
Haunting post from Mohammad Elhelo, one of only 2 journalists left in Khan Younis, posted as Israeli occupation forces storm the besieged Nasser hospital amid reports of executions and the order for thousands to evacuate.“Forgive us and pray for us. Remember us fondly.” pic.twitter.com/RWgND5Dlf8— Laila Al-Arian (@LailaAlarian) February 14, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 12:23 (nine months ago) link
Netanyahu Jr. partying down in Florida
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13076037/Benjamin-Netanyahu-son-Yair-Florida-apartment-Israel-war-Hamas-Gaza.html
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 February 2024 01:23 (nine months ago) link
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, February 14, 2024 4:18 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
IMO this is why Israel is so dedicated to denying and/or destroying Palestinian identity, betting that if they keep killing Palestinians and destroying their homes, they will have to leave and mix into the populations of other countries.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:45 (nine months ago) link
a diaspora, if you will
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:15 (nine months ago) link
sure, but a lot of ethnic groups have been displaced, genocided, etc. over the past few thousand years, and I'm not sure how many have held on to a collective identity in diaspora.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:20 (nine months ago) link
I mean maybe but I don't think this reversal thing really works. It doesn't explain why Israel vacated Gaza in 2005 or accounts for Egyptian and Jordanian occupation of regions previously considered disputed.
― felicity, Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:25 (nine months ago) link
Palestinians: the new Roma?
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:36 (nine months ago) link
https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1655161?
Little has changed since Edward Said argued, in the aftermath of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, that Palestinians have been denied the “permission to narrate.” According to him, the privileging of a “Western master narrative, highlighting Jewish alienation and redemption” erases the Palestinian understanding of reality, where the struggle for liberation is far from over. In this sense, the epistemic privilege accorded to the Israeli state and its institutions through its epistemicide of Palestinians plays a role in legitimizing it in the eyes of those more powerful than it.Therefore, in attempting to resist the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza and across the entirety of historic Palestine, it is absolutely vital to recognize and push back against epistemicide in all of its forms. Rana Barakat asserts the importance of centering Palestinian Indigenous sovereignty, resistance, and endurance within analyses of Israel's settler colonial project. It is crucial to add here that recognizing Palestinians not just as narrators of history but as producers of knowledge within the context of the land of Historic Palestine and the experiences of Palestinian people all over the world pushes back against the Israeli state's attempts to solidify its epistemic privilege through escalating its epistemicide.
Therefore, in attempting to resist the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza and across the entirety of historic Palestine, it is absolutely vital to recognize and push back against epistemicide in all of its forms. Rana Barakat asserts the importance of centering Palestinian Indigenous sovereignty, resistance, and endurance within analyses of Israel's settler colonial project. It is crucial to add here that recognizing Palestinians not just as narrators of history but as producers of knowledge within the context of the land of Historic Palestine and the experiences of Palestinian people all over the world pushes back against the Israeli state's attempts to solidify its epistemic privilege through escalating its epistemicide.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:01 (nine months ago) link
New polls indicate 71% of Israelis support expansion of the war into Lebanon.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:03 (nine months ago) link
― Cow_Art, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:07 (nine months ago) link
Haaretz has published (in Hebrew, not English) an incomprehensibly vile article in the style of a lifestyle cooking feature, about Israel's soldiers finding and cooking with ingredients in the kitchens of Gazans who had to flee their homes and are now starving. pic.twitter.com/peOvTQm2cF— gawanmac 🇵🇸 (@gawanmac) February 13, 2024
There's a lot to say about a start-up culture that continually innovates new grotesques. A telling part of the article comes at the end, where it's revealed that although most people fail escape rooms, this one is rigged so that the Israelis never lose https://t.co/HEBEkNRLTi pic.twitter.com/T5mhJhG84a— David Grossman (@davidgross_man) February 15, 2024
― mookieproof, Friday, 16 February 2024 23:52 (nine months ago) link
what in the shit https://jewishcurrents.org/the-gamified-occupation
― symsymsym, Saturday, 17 February 2024 03:23 (nine months ago) link
Rami Igra, previously head of the Captive & Missing Division in the Mossad, says there are no uninvolved civilians in Gaza over the age of four, the "humane" Kan reporter Ayala Hasson agrees but clarifies that the 0-4 year old children are innocent and deserve humanitarian aid. pic.twitter.com/y1NtMoJtpW— B.M. (@ireallyhateyou) February 14, 2024
― JoeStork, Saturday, 17 February 2024 17:45 (nine months ago) link
that would explain this utterly horrifying part of a harrowing editorial by an American doctor who volunteered in a Rafah hospital:
I stopped keeping track of how many new orphans I had operated on. After surgery they would be filed somewhere in the hospital, I’m unsure of who will take care of them or how they will survive. On one occasion, a handful of children, all about ages 5 to 8, were carried to the emergency room by their parents. All had single sniper shots to the head. These families were returning to their homes in Khan Yunis, about 2.5 miles away from the hospital, after Israeli tanks had withdrawn. But the snipers apparently stayed behind. None of these children survived.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-16/rafah-gaza-hospitals-surgery-israel-bombing-ground-offensive-children
― rob, Saturday, 17 February 2024 18:25 (nine months ago) link
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/17/joe-biden-rafah-israel-gaza-bombs/
As the conservative death toll in Gaza nears 30,000 — with more than 13,000 children confirmed dead — the White House spin doctors are worried about the 2024 U.S. election. They are desperately trying to project a public image of compassion for the people of Gaza and to sell the public on the idea that Biden has reached the end of his patience with his great friend of nearly 50 years, Benjamin Netanyahu. Confronted with a disastrous series of public statements by Biden where he claimed to have recently met with long-deceased world leaders and a special counsel’s assertions about his mental acumen, the president’s re-election campaign has been thrust into a scramble to stabilize their public narrative.Since the International Court of Justice formally ruled that South Africa’s genocide suit against Israel should proceed and issued a series of emergency orders directing Israel not to engage in genocidal actions, Tel Aviv has intensified its military operations, laying siege to hospitals and bombing civilian sites as it prepares for a possible full-scale ground invasion of Rafah. The city, which is on the border with Egypt and has been subjected to intense Israeli bombardment in recent days, creating an unsecured 25-square-mile death cage in which 1.4 million Palestinians are now trapped — after being told by Israel to flee there for safety....It is possible — given the world of crass, cynical politics that permeates Washington — that the Biden administration views opportunity in the Rafah situation. If Netanyahu proceeds against the White House’s stated position, it could potentially offer Biden an opportunity to escalate the spin campaign at the heart of the monthslong drama about supposedly “losing patience” with Netanyahu. This, in turn, would help reenforce the fictitious story the president’s reelection campaign has been crafting: Biden did everything to support Israel’s right to self- defense, but he will draw a line when Netanyahu wants to take it too far. On the other hand, history is a strong guide and suggests Biden will support an Israeli ground campaign with some expression of disappointment over tactics, while also claiming victory in convincing Israel to protect civilians. The White House has regularly given itself credit for encouraging Israel to be a bit less murdery in its operations, even as the Israeli military continues to kill large numbers of Palestinian civilians.A recent U.S. intelligence estimate indicated that Israel’s current weapons stockpiles only enables it to wage war against Gaza for an additional 19 weeks, unless Washington sends more ammunition. The fact that Biden has outright refused to use his leverage as Israel’s arms dealer is a stark indication that the occasional public platitudes, offered by U.S. officials and numerous media leaks about Biden’s mounting frustration with Netanyahu, are little more than a re-election campaign ploy.Whatever “off-ramp” Biden world eventually chooses to extricate himself politically from the Gaza war will never obviate the innumerable moments over the past 134 days when Israel’s murderous actions could have provided an instant justification to threaten to end military support and weapons sales to Israel. There has been a deliberate and conscious choice by Biden and company to keep the munitions flowing even as the massacres continue in full view of the world. The president was warned very early on in the war by Arab and Muslim leaders in the U.S. that his support for a gratuitous Israeli war against civilians would cost him politically, and he chose to stay the course in his fueling of Israel’s mass killing campaign....Whatever happens in the November election, it should never be forgotten that it was Biden, not those Americans who oppose Israel’s war and the U.S. facilitation of it, that bolstered Trump’s chances. That is entirely on Biden and the Democratic Party establishment.
Since the International Court of Justice formally ruled that South Africa’s genocide suit against Israel should proceed and issued a series of emergency orders directing Israel not to engage in genocidal actions, Tel Aviv has intensified its military operations, laying siege to hospitals and bombing civilian sites as it prepares for a possible full-scale ground invasion of Rafah. The city, which is on the border with Egypt and has been subjected to intense Israeli bombardment in recent days, creating an unsecured 25-square-mile death cage in which 1.4 million Palestinians are now trapped — after being told by Israel to flee there for safety....It is possible — given the world of crass, cynical politics that permeates Washington — that the Biden administration views opportunity in the Rafah situation. If Netanyahu proceeds against the White House’s stated position, it could potentially offer Biden an opportunity to escalate the spin campaign at the heart of the monthslong drama about supposedly “losing patience” with Netanyahu. This, in turn, would help reenforce the fictitious story the president’s reelection campaign has been crafting: Biden did everything to support Israel’s right to self- defense, but he will draw a line when Netanyahu wants to take it too far. On the other hand, history is a strong guide and suggests Biden will support an Israeli ground campaign with some expression of disappointment over tactics, while also claiming victory in convincing Israel to protect civilians. The White House has regularly given itself credit for encouraging Israel to be a bit less murdery in its operations, even as the Israeli military continues to kill large numbers of Palestinian civilians.
A recent U.S. intelligence estimate indicated that Israel’s current weapons stockpiles only enables it to wage war against Gaza for an additional 19 weeks, unless Washington sends more ammunition. The fact that Biden has outright refused to use his leverage as Israel’s arms dealer is a stark indication that the occasional public platitudes, offered by U.S. officials and numerous media leaks about Biden’s mounting frustration with Netanyahu, are little more than a re-election campaign ploy.
Whatever “off-ramp” Biden world eventually chooses to extricate himself politically from the Gaza war will never obviate the innumerable moments over the past 134 days when Israel’s murderous actions could have provided an instant justification to threaten to end military support and weapons sales to Israel. There has been a deliberate and conscious choice by Biden and company to keep the munitions flowing even as the massacres continue in full view of the world. The president was warned very early on in the war by Arab and Muslim leaders in the U.S. that his support for a gratuitous Israeli war against civilians would cost him politically, and he chose to stay the course in his fueling of Israel’s mass killing campaign.
...
Whatever happens in the November election, it should never be forgotten that it was Biden, not those Americans who oppose Israel’s war and the U.S. facilitation of it, that bolstered Trump’s chances. That is entirely on Biden and the Democratic Party establishment.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 17 February 2024 22:17 (nine months ago) link
Just pasting that last sentence again:
Notice how much bigger these protests are than the ones in Israel specifically against the threatened onslaught against Rafah. Most Israelis don't oppose the actual effects of the war against Gaza, they oppose the government's incompetence and its poor optics. https://t.co/IHYRUZd8Fg— Séamus Malekafzali (@Seamus_Malek) February 17, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 February 2024 23:30 (nine months ago) link
I don’t understand the point of Tweets like that. Collective punishment of Gaza is bad but Israelis should be held collectively responsible for the actions of their government? Pro-Israel propagandists are all the time “no one is innocent in Gaza they can overthrow Hamas anytime.” Why should our side use the same argument?
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:05 (nine months ago) link
Israelis do have the option of a non-violent transfer of power available to them
― symsymsym, Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:15 (nine months ago) link
The point of tweets like that is to point out the depravity of the Israeli citizenry.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:19 (nine months ago) link
“We don’t like the optics that the government is putting out, but we don’t mind ethnic cleansing.” Sorry, that’s depraved!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:20 (nine months ago) link
Israelis should be held collectively responsible for the actions of their government
They elect the governments that carry out the actions (the non-Netanyahu government would be indistinguishable aside from perhaps being more competent in carrying out genocide). A quarter of the population of Israel are foreign-born - even accounting for children, that's a significant chunk of the population that chose to emigrate. They mostly acquiesce to military conscription.
Yes, citizens of liberal democracies share some collective burden and responsibility for the actions of the government.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:38 (nine months ago) link
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 18 February 2024 01:53 (nine months ago) link
Look at the polls— an overwhelming majority of Israelis approve of the current war, 71% approve of expanding the war to Lebanon. What gives me the heebie-jeebies is that a lot of Westerners refuse to accept that Israel is an ethno-fascist, white supremacist state and that it is replicating tactics most famously used by the Nazis, as well as other totalitarian regimes.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 February 2024 02:08 (nine months ago) link
Israel is an ethno-fascist, white supremacist state
Your larger point (with which I agree) aside...are Israelis white? I think that's kind of a fraught issue. I don't know if the majority of white Americans consider Israelis white, and consequently I don't know if Israel is "white supremacist" in the same way as apartheid South Africa or pre-1965 Mississippi. In that skin color isn't the determining factor behind social privilege — religion is. So their fascism is closer to the Hindu fascism of Modi's India.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Sunday, 18 February 2024 02:40 (nine months ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 February 2024 02:42 (nine months ago) link
Collective punishment of Gaza is bad but Israelis should be held collectively responsible for the actions of their government?
gazans being straight-up murdered for being gazan is subtly different from israelis being 'blamed' for the actions of their government
i.e. the latter are still alive
― mookieproof, Sunday, 18 February 2024 05:54 (nine months ago) link
Pro-Israel propagandists are all the time “no one is innocent in Gaza they can overthrow Hamas anytime.” Why should our side use the same argument?
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 18 February 2024 bookmarkflaglink
― symsymsym, Sunday, 18 February 2024 bookmarkflaglink
There is that. But the person writing the tweet might be thinking of the very small protests against the war in general, as opposed to the anti-Netanyahu ones.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:49 (nine months ago) link
Dudes, I get that Israelis are overwhelmingly in favor of the war. Also Likud's base is largely Middle Eastern Mizrahi Jews so not sure if they code white. I'm not arguing against that the Israeli government/army is committing genocide, and that many Israeli people support that. I'm arguing against dehumanizing the enemy no matter who they are. Israeli people are doing depraved things but calling them, as people, depraved, is the same language we deplore when used against Palestinians. And I don't place the responsibility for Greg Abbott's actions on Milo because he lives in Texas.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:52 (nine months ago) link
Well said.
It gives me the creeps hearing this kind of talk "even accounting for children." Especially from white American men living on stolen land who have no intention of ceding their own privileges.
― felicity, Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:13 (nine months ago) link
xp You should, however place some responsibility for Greg Abbott's actions on Texans, given that he was democratically elected with 55% of the vote.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:45 (nine months ago) link
Texans, as a distinct class or set of individuals, did not give Greg Abbott the governorship. The distinct and numerable set of individuals who voted for Greg Abbott did so. You may dismiss this as quibbling, but it is true according to the logic of categories and also happens to reflect reality far more exactly. Your statement includes a huge number of the wrong people.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:19 (nine months ago) link
I get that Israelis are overwhelmingly in favor of the war...I'm not arguing against that the Israeli government/army is committing genocide, and that many Israeli people support that.
but these are the points the tweet you were objecting to was making
― symsymsym, Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:44 (nine months ago) link