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speaking of spinning himself as a good guy, check out the tone of the author describing starmer's angry reaction to his niece being subjected to a homophobic attack

“Starmer’s anger over what happened to his niece, and – despite his best efforts with the police – the failure to prosecute those responsible, is an emotion you rarely see from him in public,” Baldwin writes. “For my part, I think the argument made casually by a lot of people these days that he stands for nothing is well wide of the mark.”

fuck that, i wanna see kieth go full death wish on the perps

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:29 (eight months ago) link

the argument that he stands for nothing is well wide of the mark because he didn't like it when his niece was physically assaulted

well i'm convinced lads, he's a man of strongly-held principles after all

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:30 (eight months ago) link

it puts a completely different light on his right-wing authoritarian cop tendencies and all the vile stuff he did while he was DPP.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:38 (eight months ago) link

Do you know that Keir Starmer once told McDonalds to go away *swoon*

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:40 (eight months ago) link

His principled refusal to learn how to copy and paste.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:41 (eight months ago) link

the highlight of McLibel, well the only clip of it I've watched tbh, revealed that Kieth didn't know how to use floppy discs and created a low level hostile work environment by talking to his staff like they were shit.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:46 (eight months ago) link

i'm waiting for "Starmer used to drink 20 pints a day" reveal

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:23 (eight months ago) link

probably best to avoid that line in case he reminds people of the time he decked a deliveroo rider with his car after enjoying a deliciously refreshing non-alcoholic beverage at a nearby pub

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:35 (eight months ago) link

that's his tough stance on the gig economy i reckon

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:38 (eight months ago) link

what on earth is the need for a big fuckoff SUV when you live in North London other than just making the pissed up arsehole driving it have an inflated sense of superiority . I hate everything about this guy.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:14 (eight months ago) link

So it seems like Lindsay Hoyle has rewritten the Commons rules, against advice, to save Starmer's bacon. Get rid of the biased cunt.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:29 (eight months ago) link

there needs to be more protection for MPs, it's unacceptable that they receive death threats from members of the, um, Labour Party

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:09 (eight months ago) link

Corbyn 4 Speaker

nashwan, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:14 (eight months ago) link

nm he likes being an actual MP too much

nashwan, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:20 (eight months ago) link

Can anyone do a tldr on what happened with hoyle today and why i should care? feels like dropping into a shit soap opera.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 February 2024 00:02 (eight months ago) link

I think basically Starmer, acting like a gangster PM elect, threatened ArseHoyle's future speakership if he didn't break with standard parliamentary procedures to protect his ass from a Labour rebellion. The kind of lawless behaviour FBPEs had no truck with when Boris Johnson did it. Probably a poor summary but I don't really gaf what goes on these days.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 00:24 (eight months ago) link

This seems like a pretty succinct summary

To clarify, Labour masterminded a parliamentary manoeuvre to avoid a vote on an awkward SNP motion and then instead of owning that they’ve blamed protestors, thus prompting a new moral panic about politically active muslims?

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) February 22, 2024

soref, Thursday, 22 February 2024 01:44 (eight months ago) link

Labour's message to us?

We will not act as an Opposition nor will we let anyone else act as an Opposition.

There will be no opposition. Fuck you all.

— Priyamvada Gopal © (@PriyamvadaGopal) February 21, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:25 (eight months ago) link

Also a pretty succinct summary

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:48 (eight months ago) link

Just the other day I was slightly surprised to find Starmer seemingly on the right side of history on the Operation Spanner Wiki page:

There was immediate criticism of the investigation and trial in 1990, with the Gay London Policing Group describing the sentences as "outrageous" and Andrew Puddephat, general secretary of Liberty, calling for a "right to privacy enshrined in law".[52] Keir Starmer said the judiciary had "effectively imposed its morality on others" and argued the "unrepresentative make-up of the judiciary makes it ill-equipped to do this".[63] The Pink Paper branded the case a homophobic "show trial" designed to "get a clear ruling on the illegality of S&M sex, especially amongst gay men".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:53 (eight months ago) link

Michael Martin resigned after 22 MPs expressed no confidence in him, Hoyle is up to 53 (and counting)

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:12 (eight months ago) link

... just gone up to 54!

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:12 (eight months ago) link

Well no worries, he's got the full support of (checks notes)

Lindsay Hoyle has been an exemplary Speaker the best I have known he is always fair & even-handed & has taken the most active role in the care & support of all Members he should be thanked & supported.

— Barry Sheerman MP (@BarrySheerman) February 21, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:25 (eight months ago) link

calzino's pal

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:40 (eight months ago) link

Extremely good and tenable position for a speaker to be in, all parties but one calling on him to resign and the other party saying he's great what's the problem lol

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:53 (eight months ago) link

I'm always hearing that Starmer's a reluctant leader who's only doing it out of a sense of duty etc, he sure doesn't act like it! Proper shakedown. Anyway good to hear the UK political class are so earnestly concerned about the situation in Gaza they're prepared to put aside ideological differences to propose a ceasefire motion that Israel won't care about.

kieth flett (Matt #2), Thursday, 22 February 2024 11:19 (eight months ago) link

love to see our leaders fighting viciously over exactly what form of doing absolutely nothing they will adopt

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 February 2024 11:26 (eight months ago) link

heh, the moral support from a doddering relic of the Labour Right who announced he was stepping down 2 years ago (to the unanimous applause of his constituents) will be a huge boost for Speaker Arsehoyle. Which has reminded me that Frank Field is still alive, or was he ever alive?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:17 (eight months ago) link

She claims that at least Jeremy Corbyn, the previous Labour leader, genuinely believed in his positon on Gaza. She claims Keir Starmer was not sincere in his position, and that this shows he is not fit to lead.

Penny Mordaunt otm

kieth flett (Matt #2), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:21 (eight months ago) link

a bold stance to take less than 24 hours after starmer's biographer assured us that he is in fact a man who believes in many things, eg his niece being beaten up is bad not good

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:24 (eight months ago) link

Starmer categorically denies threatening the Speaker. I think we can take that as a confession then.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:52 (eight months ago) link

Hoyle is now saying he did it because he wanted to protect MPs from possible repercussions, I assume from evil Muslims, after the vote. Sack the cunt.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:07 (eight months ago) link

god forbid mp's should vote on anything difficult or consequential eh? what kind of argument is that? these fucking pricks.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:45 (eight months ago) link

I remember when Corbyn looking at an MP the wrong way was enough to draw cries of authoritarianism, but this shit with the votes is fine. Great preview of the next government, can’t wait.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:05 (eight months ago) link

I have lost count of the number or times you have told me, "the door is over there". I don’t think you realise how disrespectful and intimidating this is to me as a Black woman on the Left. Or perhaps you do. 5/6 pic.twitter.com/6MxhbVEXht

— Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP (@BellRibeiroAddy) February 23, 2024

this guy seems like a total prick and should stop tweeting, but it's weird to see left-wing twitter go all-in on describing this as harassment when they've spent the last few days warning against conflating harassment with criticism of MPs. What definition of harassment would you come up with that includes this guy but doesn't include e.g. someone tweeting repeatedly at an MP who's a spokesperson for Labour Friends of Israel or something? (and yeah, I know part of the issue is later is seized on as a threat to democracy and the former gets quietly ignored, but is there any principal here except that it's bad when it happens to people you like and good when it happens to people you dislike?)

soref, Friday, 23 February 2024 19:41 (eight months ago) link

piling onto a racist Starmer supporting prick is fine, no tedious self-reflection is required here imo.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:54 (eight months ago) link

"worst general election result in the history of our glorious democracy" is strangely reluctant to question what it means when Starmer inevitably gets significantly less votes than Corbyn at the next GE

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:58 (eight months ago) link

he will get less votes than Corbyn did and do better, these cunts would be happy with the lowest turnout of the postwar era as long as they win. At the time Prof D Edgerton pointed out that the goal of of democratic parties should be to get the support and votes of as many of the voting population as they can, and on that metric Corbyn's worst ever election had a larger popular vote than Blair's last winning election.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:15 (eight months ago) link

well exackly. and this raises a shitload of questions on what the "winning is everything" camp want and believe, but they are questions that they're strangely incoherent on or refuse to answer

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:17 (eight months ago) link

So there is actually a Legal Immigration Minister and an Illegal Immigration Minister. The latter wants locking up in that case.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 11:03 (eight months ago) link

But are there two Shadow Immigration Ministers as well?

doleful lundgren (Matt #2), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 11:20 (eight months ago) link

The vote share stuff seems largely to be a factor of if the Liberal Democrats are a factor or not but in raw numbers both Corbyn and May did pretty well in 2017 on relatively high turnout (highest of any of the post 1997 elections)

Turnout is pretty interesting, huge drop off in 2001 at 59%, first time below 70%. Has recovered back above 60 since then but never 70. 1951 the highest at 83%

anvil, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 11:30 (eight months ago) link

Lol. Shadow Illegal Immigration minister is like WaLuigi, the inversion of an inversion

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 12:47 (eight months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/feb/23/charlotte-benton-obituary

Read this obit with some sadness. The life, opportunities that are now being denied.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:06 (eight months ago) link

Illegal Immigration Minister get's paid cash-in-hand and arrives late for work every signing on day and is commiting housing benefit fraud, human rights obligations? fuck that shit as well!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:07 (eight months ago) link

The market is working

Absolutely devastating stat for the government today: in the 12 months to 30 Sep 2023, more people were made homeless than bought their first home.

164,630 households owed a homelessness relief duty by their council
126,100 households claimed First Time Buyer Stamp Duty Relief

— Dan Wilson Craw 🇺🇦🥑🏘 (@danwilsoncraw) February 29, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:13 (eight months ago) link

Devastating stat for the government, I'm sure they've mandated mourning dress

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:17 (eight months ago) link

Lol

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 February 2024 20:16 (eight months ago) link

GEORGE GALLOWAY HAS DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN LETTERS FOR WHITE AND MUSLIM HOUSEHOLDS IN ROCHDALE 😭😭😭😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/swSsfQxf2t

— saad 🇬🇧 ⸆⸉ (@crowndefensx) February 29, 2024

symsymsym, Friday, 1 March 2024 02:08 (eight months ago) link


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