Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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I seem to remember a lot of "Are you trying to tell Jews what is and isn't antisemitism? How dare you!" outrage. Apparently this does not apply to Muslims and Islamophobia. Funny that.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 12:45 (eight months ago) link

I used to like when Corbyn would condemn anti-semitism along with all racism, and people would scream that he didn't care about jews, then he'd condemn anti-semitism and not mention other forms of racism, and people would scream that he was singling out jews, good times great memories

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:32 (eight months ago) link

Tories seem to be embracing Islamophobia in way that Labour did anti- semitism under Corbyn

— John Crace (@JohnJCrace) February 28, 2024

This cunt works for the guardian, so he goes here too

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:38 (eight months ago) link

Old Etonians STFU TYVM

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:55 (eight months ago) link

if Crace went to Eton his expensive education hasn't prevented him being extremely thick

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:56 (eight months ago) link

Thick Etonians, whoever heard of such a thing? Maybe all that heroin affected his brain.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:06 (eight months ago) link

It's certainly super odd how the most recent, notable and universally upheld examples of antisemitism are from Starmer's Labour and the right wing of the party, yet Crace and Behr etc reflexively cannot help but refer back to Corbyn's Labour, almost as if it's a deflecting tactic, or a salve of a wretched conscience, or pure political partiality.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:15 (eight months ago) link

having a smackhead adventure is a jolly good wheeze for an Etonian, another one to tick off the bucket list. Parents can send you to a Swiss clinic for a controlled withdrawal and then you can drone on about how you used to be an addict for the rest of your fking life!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:31 (eight months ago) link

"You are receiving this email because you are a subscriber to Swift Notes."

I'm bloody not! How the fuck did my barely-used spare email address end up on a Taylor Swift-themed Guardian mailing list?! Fuck off Laura Sn@pes

doleful lundgren (Matt #2), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:40 (eight months ago) link

lol i just got this too

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doleful lundgren (Matt #2), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:41 (eight months ago) link

Phew!

doleful lundgren (Matt #2), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:41 (eight months ago) link

pertinent to thread-title that should be "owing to an error in our email system"

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:51 (eight months ago) link

sorry we accidentally blew the gaff on our massive data harvesting lol

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:29 (eight months ago) link

why would I need a Taylor Swift newsletter when I have ILX

imago, Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:37 (eight months ago) link

So it looks as if you now have to register to read the Guardian online and there's no way I'm doing that, so it's bye bye Guardian.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 March 2024 14:53 (eight months ago) link

is that just on i-phones/smartphones? I was reading it earlier online and be damned if I'll register with these a-holes

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:19 (eight months ago) link

I was trying to read it on my laptop. Maybe they've decided they just don't like me.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:26 (eight months ago) link

I think you can read the Express for free if that helps?

help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:39 (eight months ago) link

Still till working without registration for me, but no doubt they are gradually rolling it out. I use it for advanced students, so as long as we don't have to pay I'll still use it with 12 ft wall/archive.

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:41 (eight months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/17/birmingham-britain-state-cuts-austerity-local-services

This is all true, but maybe there was something that could have been done 4 and a bit years ago that might have prevented some of the worst of it?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 18 March 2024 09:58 (seven months ago) link

It's the perfect situation for The Guardian. Rant about how things are broken and limit your horizons on how the problems can be fixed.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 March 2024 12:24 (seven months ago) link

this moral campaign to get rich establishment women into the exclusive members club for rich establishment men really is some peak grauniad

devvvine, Friday, 29 March 2024 10:53 (seven months ago) link

sounds very Helen Lewis

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 March 2024 10:54 (seven months ago) link

imagine getting worked up that ayesha hazarika doesn't get enough opportunities to chin wag with tory peers

devvvine, Friday, 29 March 2024 10:55 (seven months ago) link

Baroness Ayesha Hazarika, to be precise.

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Friday, 29 March 2024 10:57 (seven months ago) link

maybe John Harris's gloating has pushed her over the edge

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 March 2024 10:57 (seven months ago) link

(Not Guardian AFAIK but) TERFs defending the Garrick Club because they think it being in the news is cointelpro to undermine same-sex spaces is *chef's kiss*

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 March 2024 13:17 (seven months ago) link

It's extremely on brand

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 March 2024 13:29 (seven months ago) link

If Will Hutton wants to make these arguments about how water and other public utilities should be funded and managed, he should do it under his own name, and not anonymously as The Observer View. https://t.co/Ff8sHyfcpY pic.twitter.com/0b2WfBwILk

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) March 31, 2024

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 March 2024 12:02 (seven months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/30/she-still-carries-an-aura-of-spectacular-failure-why-hasnt-liz-truss-gone-away

As I listened to her banging on, her eyes oddly glassy as though looking for something just over the horizon, she strongly reminded me of someone but I couldn’t put my finger on who it was. Then it came to me. In her mix of utter conviction and utter obliviousness to how she might come across to anyone who doesn’t see the world the way she does, the politician she most resembles is Jeremy Corbyn. Like him, Truss is convinced the policies she advocates are popular with a majority of the public. For Corbyn it was nationalisation of the utilities, more money for the NHS and cheaper housing, all of which poll extremely well. For Truss it is secure borders, lower taxes and an end to burdensome environmental restrictions. In both cases, the explanation for why the things the public want never come to pass is the same: the system is stacked against the preferences of ordinary people.

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 12:16 (seven months ago) link

The whole article is shit, I mean, commenting on members of the audience being overweight?

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 12:18 (seven months ago) link

So weird how they even mention Corbyn's existence

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:12 (seven months ago) link

the Corbyn leadership is the winter of discontent for the centrist establishment, they will never stop evoking its symbolic horror

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:26 (seven months ago) link

Exactly.

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:37 (seven months ago) link

Like him, Truss is convinced the policies she advocates are popular with a majority of the public. For Corbyn it was nationalisation of the utilities, more money for the NHS and cheaper housing, all of which poll extremely well.

In other words they are popular with the majority of the public. Duh.

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:40 (seven months ago) link

"David Walter Runciman, 4th Viscount Runciman of Doxford, FBA, FRSL (born 1 March 1967), is an English academic and podcaster who teaches politics and history at Cambridge University, where he is Professor of Politics"

viscount, podcaster, polprof

(i forget if i talked abt this, i was researching something in the british library a few years ago, which required me to read several back issues of the modern review, and found in passing a piece by runciman on BLUR: it was eye-stretchingly bad)

mark s, Sunday, 31 March 2024 14:24 (seven months ago) link

i cannot *stand* runciman.

Fizzles, Sunday, 31 March 2024 15:20 (seven months ago) link

i now want to read that blur piece.

Fizzles, Sunday, 31 March 2024 15:21 (seven months ago) link

i wondered if he was related to Steven Runciman and of course he his, nepo-politics forever

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 March 2024 15:42 (seven months ago) link

nepo discourse comes from the aristocracy at last

mark s, Sunday, 31 March 2024 16:16 (seven months ago) link

Probably their oddest columnist. She writes a lot about health and fitness and about her personal life.

Alternating between something serious and this.

I read it as some acknowledgement that their politics is too awful to fling on to ppl every week.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 09:09 (seven months ago) link

this may have become distorted in the rear view mirror but as far as I remember ZW was further to the left than most guardian commentators for a long time and a fairly vocal supporter of trans rights. when she started doing what suddenly seemed like loads more lifestyle fluff in a Tim Dowling style, I wondered whose call that was.

verhexen, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 09:32 (seven months ago) link

Still wrote a ton of lifestyle fluff for the Evening Standard before she joined the Guardian.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 09:51 (seven months ago) link

i have a soft spot for zoe williams but dont feel compelled to read her

plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 10:41 (seven months ago) link

didn't Zoe Williams used to be their sort of voice-of-youth columnist back in the day? Anyway, the oldest Zoe Williams column available on the guardian website is a list of '101 things we don't miss' published April 2001 that includes Roland Rat and Deely-Boppers, so her writing fluff pieces for them is not a new development

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2001/apr/21/weekend.zoewilliams2

soref, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 11:10 (seven months ago) link

I know her a little because we have many mutuals and I like her; she has no time for bigots or terfs, especially those in the media. She is definitely on the left despite going to private school in West London. Not crazy about the Poly Filla stuff she is asked to write, though. I say this all the time but columnists get their gigs because an editor becomes fascinated with some aspect of their lives and then they’re in that job forever. One huge reason her output has increased recently is that she has been seconded to Parliamentary sketch person while John Crace recuperates from his heart attack.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 11:43 (seven months ago) link

should i be worried abt the heart-attack rate among senior guardian columnists? god keep chiles safe!

mark s, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 11:47 (seven months ago) link


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