I have seen and enjoyed part 2
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 March 2024 02:36 (seven months ago) link
same. incredible atmosphere.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 March 2024 02:42 (seven months ago) link
I saw part 1 with my mother. I was largely lost, but she's familiar with the books and told me more in extensive detail.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 1 March 2024 13:37 (seven months ago) link
I’m sure someone dropped this already, but a good catch-up guide before the new film:https://maxread.substack.com/p/dune-annotatedI was reading it again before sending it to friends and forgot how max put it in terms for people very online
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 March 2024 13:56 (seven months ago) link
I've read half the book recently (waiting till after the film to read the second half) (iirc I read it maybe 30 years ago, didn't remember anything) and it was less dense than I was expecting. If there's two things the movie skimps on it's that 1) no computers, mentats! and b) paul is atreides AND harkonnen AND bene gesserit AND a mentat and hence the kwisatz haderach. Obviously.
― ledge, Friday, 1 March 2024 14:08 (seven months ago) link
https://c.tenor.com/ce1VXmViNMgAAAAd/tenor.gif
― mark s, Friday, 1 March 2024 14:17 (seven months ago) link
*mentat eyeroll* can't believe they're asking me to do ridiculous computations in my head again
― ledge, Friday, 1 March 2024 14:20 (seven months ago) link
An interview (probably one of many) with Villeneuve here: https://screencrush.com/denis-villeneuve-dune-part-two-interview/
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 March 2024 16:07 (seven months ago) link
I strongly agree with him: we should have gotten more Thufir Hawat
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 March 2024 16:12 (seven months ago) link
I watched a torrented cam job of part two last night, some disgusting savage resting their foot on the back of a cinema chair completely ruined some of the desert scenes.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 16:12 (seven months ago) link
lmao
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 March 2024 16:19 (seven months ago) link
how hard could it be to synthesize spice
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 1 March 2024 16:23 (seven months ago) link
it's like 10,000 balisets when all u need is a synth
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2024 16:34 (seven months ago) link
It's the worm riding that I don't understand. How can a huge unpredictable creature be relied upon to get from a to b. Like, come on hurry up - the 8.37 to Southern Arakis will soon be arriving at the station, don't leave your baggage too close to its giant anus.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 17:05 (seven months ago) link
God help you if you ride coach
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 March 2024 17:18 (seven months ago) link
drink enough of a creature’s vital fluid and you will come to understand the creature. how do you think we figured out horses?
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 1 March 2024 18:15 (seven months ago) link
I just want to go to Dune World amusement park and get some spice fries
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 1 March 2024 18:17 (seven months ago) link
in the book they explain that you use the hooks separate the chitinous plates of the worm and it turns to avoid getting sand in there, and that functions for steering
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 1 March 2024 18:48 (seven months ago) link
Worms need to unionize imo
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 March 2024 19:56 (seven months ago) link
pail atreides is remy the rat
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2024 20:05 (seven months ago) link
the way they extract the water of life from the babby worms looks painful and cruel, no wonder the old ones are a bit radge at times
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 20:08 (seven months ago) link
Well, I liked it a lot. Better than the first film even!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2024 22:43 (seven months ago) link
there were a number of interesting bits that did or didn’t happen that seemed like Denis read some online commentsI think Paul alludes to the concept once but at no point does anyone say “desert power”
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 March 2024 23:18 (seven months ago) link
I still am bemused that got a lot of stick because it's in the book!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 March 2024 00:41 (seven months ago) link
i was slightly mixed on this, but villeneuve is otherworldly as a creator of images. there are like 20 shots in the movie that feel like things no one has ever done before.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 March 2024 04:45 (seven months ago) link
I think he was probably right to collapse the political maneuvering to fewer entities even if it short changes the story. It might seem cheap to collapse things to Chani staring in disappointment and maybe a hint of disgust, but I think it crafts an effective story
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 3 March 2024 04:51 (seven months ago) link
especially since zendaya's mad/disappointed face is so effective!
i'm not sure yet what my notes would be other than "adapting only the second half of dune is going to be hard" but to be clear it's at least like 90% successful in doing so
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 March 2024 05:05 (seven months ago) link
I liked it for spectacle, as story it felt a bit crammed-in even with what it left out. I did like the moral ambiguity of the ending.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 3 March 2024 05:10 (seven months ago) link
Just rewatched 1. Had forgotten how abrupt the ending is.
― default damager (lukas), Sunday, 3 March 2024 07:10 (seven months ago) link
I think Paul alludes to the concept once but at no point does anyone say “desert power”
yes they should have been saying "desert vibes"
I saw 2 last night, after finally finishing 1 the night before. Bring on 3, like, ASAP please.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 3 March 2024 16:21 (seven months ago) link
I wanna know how much Anya Taylor-Joy got paid for her 22 seconds of screen time.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 3 March 2024 16:28 (seven months ago) link
felt pretty similarly about this one as I did the first, which is that it was fine but overlong and soulless. I just don’t really like villeneuve or (particularly) zimmer honestly.
― brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 March 2024 23:52 (seven months ago) link
Well, well.
The follow-up was originally slated to hit the big screen last fall, but it was delayed to spring because of the actors strike, which prevented stars Timothée Chalamet, Zendaya, Florence Pugh and the rest of the sprawling, buzzy cast from being able to promote the movie. On its new release date, the second “Dune” benefited from pent-up demand; there hasn’t been a blockbuster in weeks.
Opening grosses for “Dune 2,” on the heels of Warner’s fantasy musical “Wonka,” appear to confirm Chalamet as the rarest of species: a bankable leading man. And outsized commercial results might position Villeneuve, with the possible exception of Christopher Nolan, as the filmmaker best able to deliver the types of brainy big-screen spectacles that can appeal to wide audiences.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 March 2024 23:55 (seven months ago) link
Being oh so familiar with the story made me impatient during the storytelling, annoyed by the glosses and shortcuts, and a bit baffled by plot changes. One in particular made little sense and also squandered a "big-moment" - in the books Rabban is tanking the spice production, Feyd is never governor. The Emperor is ticked off so comes to Arrakis to hold them to account; Paul leads the Fremen through the shield wall and corners Shaddam and the Baron who are shocked that he's alive, before he takes control. But in the film it's just "Dear Emperor, I'm the heir you thought was dead, why not come and have a fight," which seems pretty stupid since turning up to fight Atreides rather gives away that he had them wiped out in the first place, which he needs to conceal at all costs, and is the lever which unthrones him.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 4 March 2024 01:45 (seven months ago) link
The Hollywood brain trust (shorthand for studio execs, producers, directors, writers, etc.) know that, although the Dune books have a seriously hardcore fan base, the preponderance of their audience will be made up of people who never read the books, don't read much of anything at all, and who just want to watch a movie that entertains them, rather than overloads them with complicated imaginary situations that only confuse their stressed-out brains. This might be sad for the book-loving fan base, but it's also perfectly true.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 4 March 2024 03:42 (seven months ago) link
Yeah I just mean that the choice they made, which wasn't necessary, directly contradicts the motivation which drives the outcome, and robs them of a big reveal moment too.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 4 March 2024 04:29 (seven months ago) link
I liked the adaptive smudges, Alia being “a talking embryo” and Leto Jr. not existing at all. The Feyd-Rautha exposition on Giedi Prime was amazing, like an AI Rick Owens commercial, I loved it. I loved Austin Butler. Denis made a compelling love story! first time for everything. Javier Bardem was great as Prince Faisal. Timothee’s stuntman deserves Best Actor. Good movie can’t wait to watch again.
― a hyperlink to the past (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 4 March 2024 05:37 (seven months ago) link
Yeah I think this is really exceptional, a giant sci fi blockbuster that is well directed, great acting and screenwriting, with genuine emotion.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 4 March 2024 06:16 (seven months ago) link
Further to fgti’s point, the Giedi Prime sequence was remarkable — those smeary fireworks! — and this is worth a read:https://variety.com/2024/artisans/news/dune-2-shooting-arena-fight-scene-infrared-1235927682/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 March 2024 06:24 (seven months ago) link
Definitely enjoyed it, just not as much as the first
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 4 March 2024 07:08 (seven months ago) link
Denis made a compelling love story! first time for everything.
i thought the ryan gosling / ana de armas love story in blade runner 2049 was really well-explored fwiw, and perfectly philip k dick
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 March 2024 11:13 (seven months ago) link
yes. easily the best part of that movie (which was kinda narratively dud otherwise imo)
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 March 2024 11:43 (seven months ago) link
i saw that movie w/you tracer!
(that was the best bit)
― mark s, Monday, 4 March 2024 11:51 (seven months ago) link
i thought the tracer hand / mark s blade runner 2049 screening story was really well-explored, and perfectly philip k dick
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 March 2024 11:52 (seven months ago) link
aw mark yes i stand corrected!!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 March 2024 12:14 (seven months ago) link
Ok! Thanks for the corrective, I am due a rewatch of that film that I remember enjoying
Incendies did have a lovely little ten minute love story in it too iirc
― a hyperlink to the past (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 4 March 2024 13:57 (seven months ago) link
I loved Blade Runner 2049, I need to see it again.
I can't get around to this one for a week or so (I don't think), but my sister saw it yesterday and, as someone who liked the first one but is not a Dune nerd, she told me by the end she didn't really know what was going on, lol.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 March 2024 14:01 (seven months ago) link
yeah i love these and generally think the decisions about streamlining and story compression have been really well done, but its hard for me to be objective since i know the story already, i cant really get a sense of how well i'd be following if i didnt already know what the water of life was or whatever
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 4 March 2024 14:48 (seven months ago) link
as long as you have the basic idea that it's a few groups of people jockeying for power over the spice planet it seems hard to get all that lost
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 4 March 2024 15:09 (seven months ago) link
I loved Blade Runner 2049, I need to see it again.I can't get around to this one for a week or so (I don't think), but my sister saw it yesterday and, as someone who liked the first one but is not a Dune nerd, she told me by the end she didn't really know what was going on, lol.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:36 (seven months ago) link