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almost certainly complained about these before, but the thread has become too large to search, so if you write

  • smacks of
  • methinks
  • writ large
just fuck completely off forever

mookieproof, Sunday, 3 March 2024 06:02 (eight months ago) link

One that's been annoying me lately is "technical term" followed by some colloquialism, ie "Her behaviour was certainly unusual, I believe the technical term is 'batshit crazy'".

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 3 March 2024 07:08 (eight months ago) link

hearing a couple of people recently using what sounds like the phrase cognitive dissidence in places where I would expect cognitive dissonance. Wondering if it is conscious and an in joke of sorts or if it is a case of the latter.

Would think a cognitive dissidence had some level of agency involved. Whether that's esoteric knowledge or just arrogant doubling down.
But not sure if it is conscious or not.

Stevo, Sunday, 3 March 2024 16:34 (eight months ago) link

Cognitive Dissidents is the name of a San Francisco-area bar in William Gibson's Virtual Light

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 March 2024 17:57 (eight months ago) link

"Spitballing"

visiting, Sunday, 3 March 2024 21:58 (eight months ago) link

p much all corporate speak tbh

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 March 2024 22:21 (eight months ago) link

mookie will you explain what bugs you about "smacks of" and possibly provide some alternatives, it's for a friend

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 01:44 (eight months ago) link

it’s very Buster Bluth to me

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 4 March 2024 01:58 (eight months ago) link

Seems like

Calls to mind

Reminds one of

Has the air of

Is redolent of

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 04:34 (eight months ago) link

all awful phrases ofc

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 09:12 (eight months ago) link

Think Wodehouse used "has the air of" well, think it has its uses along these lines. The others, agreed.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 4 March 2024 09:19 (eight months ago) link

learnings
stakeholders

oscar bravo, Monday, 4 March 2024 09:33 (eight months ago) link

most prepositions

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 09:40 (eight months ago) link

Learningsssssss imagined always in a Von Helsing voice.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 4 March 2024 11:35 (eight months ago) link

"worry not!|

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 March 2024 11:43 (eight months ago) link

mattkkkkk otm, I can't make soup without a voice in my head saying "with a smack of ham to it! "

kinder, Monday, 4 March 2024 13:30 (eight months ago) link

To me, smacks of means than resembles. If something smacks of hypocrisy it means it stinks of it.

Alba, Monday, 4 March 2024 13:33 (eight months ago) link

worry not!

A few of the pubs/restaurants I follow on social media use this sort of style and it really sets my teeth on edge. "Rejoice! our spring menu has returned...behold its wondrous delights" etc. Guaranteed someone will reply with a "Hurrah!"

fetter, Monday, 4 March 2024 13:46 (eight months ago) link

Or worse, “huzzah”

On the suspenders side of things I give “wax” or “waxes” a pass, I kinda enjoy it tbh, I wax enthusiastic about wax

a hyperlink to the past (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 4 March 2024 13:53 (eight months ago) link

Somebody told me they hated “myriad” once and I have a subroutine in place to avoid its usage, too bad, it’s a useful word

a hyperlink to the past (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 4 March 2024 13:54 (eight months ago) link

If people wish to use "myriad," I prefer when they use it as an adjective. I know it also is accepted as a noun but I am not reconciled to that usage.

Best: I have myriad iguanas.

Not so great: I have a myriad of iguanas.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 14:19 (eight months ago) link

I didn't even know it could be used as a noun in place of multitude or suchlike. It's too similar to pyramid for me to take it seriously - "I have a pyramid of iguanas".

help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Monday, 4 March 2024 14:35 (eight months ago) link

most nouns

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 14:39 (eight months ago) link

I've got a myriad of pyramids, kid

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:03 (eight months ago) link

Myriad as noun goes back further than myriad as adjective, I believe.

Alba, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:05 (eight months ago) link

second on learnings

what’s with all these ppl suddenly using thou thee thy second/fam again? it’s v fucked up and distracting. can barely get a ye in edgewise.

the kwisatz sasquatch (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:14 (eight months ago) link

(xp) I would have thought so.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:18 (eight months ago) link

I have myriad iguanas.

One for the "shocking old" thread: I was unaware that this word is also an adjective and have never seen it used this way.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:34 (eight months ago) link

*shockingly

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:34 (eight months ago) link

same!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:40 (eight months ago) link

I specifically remember in my degree tutorials my friend getting "a myriad of" corrected to "myriad" by the professor.

kinder, Monday, 4 March 2024 17:42 (eight months ago) link

prof otm

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 19:20 (eight months ago) link

totally. non-adjectival use of "myriad" isn't technically wrong, but it always raises an eyebrow when a writer chooses this word, presumably to sound highbrow, but then fumbles the application

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 20:14 (eight months ago) link

I have a plethora of piñatas

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:19 (eight months ago) link

myriad as a noun was around for centuries before it was used an as adjective, so "isn't technically wrong" is kind of an understatement

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:22 (eight months ago) link

You're right, of course, and I am usually on that side of usage disputes (verbing, for example). But one can have preferences, and be sensitive to the preferences of one's target audience.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:54 (eight months ago) link

myriad as a noun was around for centuries before it was used an as adjective, so "isn't technically wrong" is kind of an understatement

― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, March 4, 2024 2:22 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

guess what, lots of things that make people sound stupid have been established practice for centuries

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 20:56 (eight months ago) link

Today I learned that the use of "myriad" as a noun annoys people. Don't really know why though. Might be an 'American thing'.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:58 (eight months ago) link

it always raises an eyebrow when a writer chooses this word, presumably to sound highbrow, but then fumbles the application

so you know this is the origin of myriad used as an adjective, right

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:08 (eight months ago) link

if we try real hard, we might just recreate this thread

Taking Sides: Another Think Coming v Another Thing Coming

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:14 (eight months ago) link

viking as a gerund

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:18 (eight months ago) link

today i vike
yesterday I viked
I has have had been viked
many times before

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:21 (eight months ago) link

It's necessary that you be viking

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:27 (eight months ago) link

its viking sleep?

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:41 (eight months ago) link

Motorviking

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:43 (eight months ago) link

i'm a viking girl, in a viking world

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:59 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO_VONrCJQE

Lily Dale, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:00 (eight months ago) link

so you know this is the origin of myriad used as an adjective, right

― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, March 4, 2024 3:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yup! i am really talking about a style choice, and an awareness of readers' perceptions. you could make the same argument about "self-depreciating," which emerged long before "self-deprecating" and is technically correct, but if a writer used it i would question their judgment for sure. sometimes writers make subtle choices that i appreciate, not because the writer is 100% correct, but because they've managed to avoid awkward or unwelcome associations etc etc

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:51 (eight months ago) link


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