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Myriad as noun goes back further than myriad as adjective, I believe.

Alba, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:05 (eight months ago) link

second on learnings

what’s with all these ppl suddenly using thou thee thy second/fam again? it’s v fucked up and distracting. can barely get a ye in edgewise.

the kwisatz sasquatch (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:14 (eight months ago) link

(xp) I would have thought so.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:18 (eight months ago) link

I have myriad iguanas.

One for the "shocking old" thread: I was unaware that this word is also an adjective and have never seen it used this way.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:34 (eight months ago) link

*shockingly

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:34 (eight months ago) link

same!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 4 March 2024 15:40 (eight months ago) link

I specifically remember in my degree tutorials my friend getting "a myriad of" corrected to "myriad" by the professor.

kinder, Monday, 4 March 2024 17:42 (eight months ago) link

prof otm

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 19:20 (eight months ago) link

totally. non-adjectival use of "myriad" isn't technically wrong, but it always raises an eyebrow when a writer chooses this word, presumably to sound highbrow, but then fumbles the application

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 20:14 (eight months ago) link

I have a plethora of piñatas

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:19 (eight months ago) link

myriad as a noun was around for centuries before it was used an as adjective, so "isn't technically wrong" is kind of an understatement

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:22 (eight months ago) link

You're right, of course, and I am usually on that side of usage disputes (verbing, for example). But one can have preferences, and be sensitive to the preferences of one's target audience.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:54 (eight months ago) link

myriad as a noun was around for centuries before it was used an as adjective, so "isn't technically wrong" is kind of an understatement

― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, March 4, 2024 2:22 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

guess what, lots of things that make people sound stupid have been established practice for centuries

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 20:56 (eight months ago) link

Today I learned that the use of "myriad" as a noun annoys people. Don't really know why though. Might be an 'American thing'.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:58 (eight months ago) link

it always raises an eyebrow when a writer chooses this word, presumably to sound highbrow, but then fumbles the application

so you know this is the origin of myriad used as an adjective, right

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:08 (eight months ago) link

if we try real hard, we might just recreate this thread

Taking Sides: Another Think Coming v Another Thing Coming

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:14 (eight months ago) link

viking as a gerund

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:18 (eight months ago) link

today i vike
yesterday I viked
I has have had been viked
many times before

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:21 (eight months ago) link

It's necessary that you be viking

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:27 (eight months ago) link

its viking sleep?

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:41 (eight months ago) link

Motorviking

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:43 (eight months ago) link

i'm a viking girl, in a viking world

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2024 21:59 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO_VONrCJQE

Lily Dale, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:00 (eight months ago) link

so you know this is the origin of myriad used as an adjective, right

― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, March 4, 2024 3:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yup! i am really talking about a style choice, and an awareness of readers' perceptions. you could make the same argument about "self-depreciating," which emerged long before "self-deprecating" and is technically correct, but if a writer used it i would question their judgment for sure. sometimes writers make subtle choices that i appreciate, not because the writer is 100% correct, but because they've managed to avoid awkward or unwelcome associations etc etc

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:51 (eight months ago) link

I'm one-upping the haters and using myriad as a pronoun

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 4 March 2024 22:52 (eight months ago) link

myriad, meriad, mineriad

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:53 (eight months ago) link

Shibboleths are kind of gross.

Alba, Monday, 4 March 2024 22:55 (eight months ago) link

if you're referring to how Minnesotans pronounce "boat," i agree

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 23:03 (eight months ago) link

i am really talking about a style choice, and an awareness of readers' perceptions

show me a sound linguistic basis for this perception and maybe I'll pay attention.

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 4 March 2024 23:06 (eight months ago) link

I've read the recent posts and have concluded that "myriad" is a cool word

rob, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:05 (eight months ago) link

As I have said, I write and edit for a living. Of course I have opinions but the audience that matters is the person approving my timesheet or signing my paycheck. If they don't like something, I don't argue.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:45 (eight months ago) link

Going against the grain here - I have only ever used myriad as an adjective and didn't know it could be used as a noun.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:48 (eight months ago) link

i use myriad as an adverb

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:52 (eight months ago) link

Hard to say how often we'll need to cover this ground, but in the world I inhabit both usages are understood and accepted by ordinary readers or listeners, so both are acceptable in informal prose or speech. If you're working in an academic or professional capacity that is more strictly rule-bound than informal prose or speech, then you'd better follow the rules or be seen as being in error.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:54 (eight months ago) link

such a pleasant sounding word

Swen, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:57 (eight months ago) link

how do we feel about howard cosell mentioning 'a veritable cornucopia of [noun]'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:11 (eight months ago) link

it's fine either way; he's dead

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:12 (eight months ago) link

Aimless is right. I would never correct someone speaking or writing in a casual context. But at work I have to adhere to the standards of my profession, even though they are somewhat arbitrary.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:51 (eight months ago) link

Why did everyone online start saying "my brother in christ" all the time. Yer not religious, wtf is going on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 05:36 (eight months ago) link

omg 'bro' has gotten out of hand. don't get me wrong, i'm fine with it, but every sentence cmon

Swen, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 05:53 (eight months ago) link

My bro in Christ

Alba, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 06:06 (eight months ago) link

Trayce I hate that one. It's meant as a zing I think

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 06:24 (eight months ago) link

Going against the grain here - I have only ever used myriad as an adjective and didn't know it could be used as a noun.

That's not going against the grain btw.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 07:10 (eight months ago) link

is "on accident" an American thing? gets my hackles up

massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 08:25 (eight months ago) link

i detest “on accident,” no idea origin. as annoying as pronouncing jaguar “jagwire.” unless it’s a bike cable.

jag-you-war is just ridiculous, but is at least how the milkshakes sang it.

the kwisatz sasquatch (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 09:05 (eight months ago) link

Never heard (of) it.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 09:07 (eight months ago) link

... 'on accident' that is... and 'jagwire'.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 09:09 (eight months ago) link

To British ears, the common US pronunciation of jaguar sounds more like jag-wah than jag-wire

Alba, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 09:14 (eight months ago) link


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