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lol.

I have a signed copy of his book California Boys, as well as a few issues of BOYS magazine that a friend sold me for very very cheap.

It is soft, but lord the man knew how to pick models and take a good photograph.

now some of these models seem very much like your type Tay
maybe people only started getting sexy in the 70s, like i can't really imagine 60s porn

haha. yeah i think California Boys is what i was looking at initially when i said "lvc catalog", i like the visual style but had to add "porn" to my search to find anything NSFW
i like the visual style, the boys look good nekkid, very chill, not the usual porn vibes.

I mean a lot of his most iconic photos were taken on the tail end of the 60s.

All the guys go crazy for Sean Patrick, who was Roberts’ lover for a while, but my favorite model of his is Tommy Jameson, featured here. Something about those steely blues and that toothy grin and that…

Anyway, link NSFW obv

If anyone is interested in vintage porn, tho, that blogspot I linked is the place to get an education.

omg. now how old do you think he is?

you like those bedroom eyes!

oh he’s probably 20 or so. he has a tattoo.

very handsome, you know i like brown hair. well what an interesting career that must be. you know modeling is such a skill.

I wish they all could be California boys

i don’t think it was a career for most of them.

he is handsome! i also like clean cut boyish guys (not exclusively).
the blog is cool, i don't really think of this as porn tbh, these are just nudes, many not even nude.

the thing is, and i hesitate to say this b/c i don't wanna ruin it for anyone... I THINK SOME OF THESE BOYS ARE STR8 :(

oh absolutely— but it’s also important to recognize the context for a lot of this stuff.

the physique pictures of the 50s and 60s often captured bodybuilders and such, yes, but Mel Roberts and a few others were attracted to a different type— street toughs, men on leave (or kicked out) from the military service, hippies and dreamer types, etc. The homosociality of these worlds is well-documented, particularly in LA and San Francisco, which as major west coast ports allowed for a blossoming homosexual underground to form. Key word being underground: the world of the homosexual was also the world of the criminal class.

I admit that I have some probably misplaced nostalgia for this time, which informs my preferences. I mean, when my husband and I met, we were both petty crooks and sex workers. He did tattoos out of his room in an anarchist collective. I promoted parties and had regular johns who paid my rent.

Anyway, all that said, some of Roberts’ and Bob Mizer’s models were actually gay, and by the 70s, Roberts was taking many photos of men he had met at gay liberation and early Pride events.

I mean I think you know I was always pretty (petty?) jealous of all the fun you had. also love a good hippie dude, that's definitely a me thing.

I'm hard pressed to come up with someone I think is totally smashable right now which is annoying me. like I would always say Ewan McGregor. Paul Rudd, Andrew Garfield kinda. I hate to say it because he seems like a douche but Adrian Grenier? geez I guess my type is like not that out there

My thing with 70s nostalgia of almost any stripe is that a lot fewer people call me a nigger now than they did then

That said, I did get a bunch of sweaters from Oxknit so it’s not like the allure is 100% foreign, I just would not choose to go back to the time I remember

<3 <3 <3 yes to calling that out

DJP— oh for sure. I mean, the more rampant and overt racism is one of the more important reasons why my nostalgia is misplaced

you know I would probably add like a young (or old TBH) Jake Gyllenhaal and John Krasinski to my hotties list

ugh yeah i think john k is really hot and i feel bad about it. just put the dumbest jackass dadbait out there and i roll my eyes and look again.

um wow we have a wide variety of tastes, i think Krasinski has a repellent face lol

i also don't really know what many Hollywood stars look like (at least nowadays) because i don't follow that stuff, like, at all. Who is Andrew Garfield?

oh, yeah, never seen him in anything...he looks a little too lean and lank for me.

A former twink with a head like a q-tip.

i like puppy dog faces and big ears i can't help it

I'd still let him fuck the shit outta me.

as for Krasinski he went through a phase when he finally hired a decent hair stylist

haha that's the spirit xp

Garfield looks like a good kisser. Sometimes you know these things.

but heathcliff has the whole package

Heathcliff
it's me
Andy
come home

so i had crushes on cartoon characters growing up? huckleberry hound. and later on, in my 20s, way past the point of acceptability for this sort of thing, i had a crush on brian from family guy :[

we just finished true detective s4 and omg the guy who plays qavvik is such a babe

rowr

Nice. I flirted with a guy at the bar with hair like his.

there really honestly isn't anyone. oh Chris Evans, yes. like if Chris Evans had chest hair forget about it.

which chris is which - the chris sandtrap

Chris Evans is the guy who accidentally released a pic of his d to the world that one time lol

Accidentally Like a Dick

the physique pictures of the 50s and 60s often captured bodybuilders and such, yes, but Mel Roberts and a few others were attracted to a different type— street toughs, men on leave (or kicked out) from the military service, hippies and dreamer types, etc. The homosociality of these worlds is well-documented, particularly in LA and San Francisco, which as major west coast ports allowed for a blossoming homosexual underground to form. Key word being underground: the world of the homosexual was also the world of the criminal class.

I agree that all of this is very clear in his work. The other thing about it, which i alluded to earlier, is that it closely resembles fashion photography. he's almost the inverse of someone like Ryan McGinley, a fashion photographer whose work resembles twink porn. How times have changed!

I first encountered McGinley through a solo exhibit of his snapshotty early fine art photography at the old Whitney, i think. it was Larry Clark-adjacent, mostly about the kind of invincibility that young people feel; the subject matter wasn't his friends and lovers themselves so much as their reckless abandonment. Like, i think it's pretty safe to say he's not making any kind of statement about how skinny white boys can be sexy, too, as though it's such a radical concept in the 21st century still (because i agree that context is important)

Shit like this otoh kinda pisses me off

like T, a-list Holywood stars are not on my radar a lot of the time. I know who Jake Gyllenhall is, of course. And Ewan McGregor. the others- ??

oh wait, I know who Paul Rudd is too
except i always get him mixed up with Paul Giamatti

i'm not a celeb guy to be real bcz i don't watch anything. probably the 10th time i've said this on ilx, but toshiro mifune is an all-timer for me. i know ilx user silby agrees on that one.

i love silby

rly don't know how i feel about McGins

i'm generally a lot more into physical culture types than actors. there's this one parkour guy i follow on insta uhh tim champion. he's really hot.

xp silby's a good poster it's true

Can't think of a celebrity i'm really hot for rn (i would say if i could!)

dating sites and apps have made me wary of mirages and cardboard cutouts, maybe that's the reason.

otoh i feel like the Moldy Peaches guy sometimes, i see a picture of a celebrity i know nothing about and wanna write a love song to the person i imagine them to be.

it helps that i don't know who anyone is.

sure you're at the pinnacle of some kind of culture industry niche but can you mine coal with a pick-axe for 8 hours and then come home and tend the garden with me is how i feel about it basically

i need another hero!

Toshiro Mifune is def my #1 male actor of all time and absolutely the most bangable

I was saying this last night to the bf! His favourite male actor is Seth Rogan, interesting choice

Respective females, his fave was Bette Davis. Idk who mine is, I’d have to really think hard on it. J Smith Cameron is up there but she’s hardly in anything

We also talked about best nepo baby actors. He said Isabella Rossellini and I said Laura Dern so tonight we’re rewatching Blue Velvet