US Politics, March 2024: The house of illuminati will NOT be holding any other event in the foreseeable future.

Recent polling from Quinnipiac University found that about half of Republicans and Republican-leaning voters who supported Haley would vote for Trump, while 37 percent would vote for Biden. Twelve percent said they would abstain, vote for someone else or hadn’t yet decided what to do.

Haley is a fucking monster just like the rest of the GOP, that statement might be good politics but jfc it’s abhorrent

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Biden needs votes
Biden needs votes
Biden needs votes

One key to not driving yrself completely crazy with presidential politics in particular is that when you hear a candidate who you may eventually feel obliged to vote for making rhetorical outreach to voter demographics that don't include you, just tune it out.

Unless they bring Henry Kissinger (or living equivalent) to the convention

can't imagine it'd smell any worse than usual

Why would Kissinger have wasted time at a crowded convention when he could have a gin and tonic and chill at Hillary's?

Kissinger complained that Biden never invited him to the White House, which is a plus for Biden in my book.

in 2016 I tried to use that kind of logic to convince some of my less-insane Republican friends and colleagues to vote Hillary - like, do you really think it'll be good for the Republican party if Trump wins? he's gonna force everyone to bend to his will (which changes by the hour), he's gonna put the dumbest people in charge of everything and make all his voters look like morons. he's not actually going to accomplish much because he's utterly incompetent but he might make a lot of serious mistakes which could constitute an existential crisis for the country. obviously you don't *want* Hillary in charge but come on...she's a moderate. Republicans can work with her.

well guess what, all that came to pass. Trump lucked into a bunch of conservative judges but ultimately him and the GOP have accomplished what exactly? how many bills have they actually passed since retaking the House? what have they produced for the American people outside of Hunter Biden hog pics? everyone who was hysterical about how Trump was going to try to overthrow the government were right! everyone who thought he was gonna screw our allies and cozy up to Nazis and fascists was 100% correct! do you really want to go through all this again? especially since you already have the Supreme Court for the next 40 years?

Trump lucked into a bunch of conservative judges but ultimately him and the GOP have accomplished what exactly?

The 2nd part of the sentence answers the first. Roe overturned, aiming at mifepristone and birth control next. Federal oversight and regulation gutted. They've accomplished a LOT (of misery).

a lot of people who vote GOP don't exactly want that though. support for overturning Roe was at like 28%. have they done anything which actually polled well?

Demonized immigrants, a bipartisan phenomenon.

one thing Trump did was slash corporate taxes: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/29/trump-tax-cuts-us-companies

Booming post, frogbs.

Frogbs should really be part of the team making Biden’s National TV ads

Which, really, should be 30-60 seconds of insane DJT foolishness, ending with “do you seriously want four more years of this? I’m Joe Biden, and I approve this message”

(Well, some of the ads, maybe like 50%, and then the other half would be “here’s what I’m gonna do for you”)

Trump lowered taxes, sped up vaccine production and approved bump stock bans, the latter of which will likely get overturned by his supreme court. that's about it, iirc, besides judges and generally wasting everybody's time and money and energy and life force/spirit.

For some his 'insane foolishness' is a feature, not a bug... and to others it's 'well, that's just Trump, sure he's a little rough around the edges, but it's on brand'
I get so fucking sick of these apologists

I don't even know what a second term would look like. it's not like he's suddenly more astute or more competent, he would be even more erratic and unproductive than the first time around, plus he would be an instant lame duck. hell, I wouldn't be shocked, should he get elected again, if he were impeached again.

Well, there's this big Heritage plan to fire every career gov't employee and replace them with Trump flunkies - J.D. Vance says Trump should ignore the courts going forward
So, a soft coup of sorts

xp

He will use every second of his second term trying to get a third term.

willwould

*shudders*

somewhere a batch of random chicken mcnuggets gots to have e.Coli

he has Barron sample his food before he eats anything

Which, really, should be 30-60 seconds of insane DJT foolishness, ending with “do you seriously want four more years of this? I’m Joe Biden, and I approve this message”

― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

it sounds like this is the direction they're actually going to go in, which I think is smart. it needs to be drilled into people's heads that when you vote Trump, you're voting for a sex offender, a fraudster, an insurrectionist, and a man who was impeached twice and is currently being charged with 91 felonies, the vast majority of which were committed in broad daylight, for which his only defense is "the president should be above the law". I see Republican voters constantly shocked by how hated Trump and his ideas really are the instant they get into the real world and quite frankly I think that sort of shaming really does work...for some of them. enough to make it really difficult for Trump to win.

I'm pretty interested in what Nikki Haley is gonna do now - I mean I'm pretty sure she's gonna eventually just go "all that matters is defeating Biden" and endorse Trump in exchange for the promise of a cabinet position, but who knows. Trump is 78 years old, he's obviously in poor health, his mind is deteriorating, he has so much legal stuff hanging over his head and should he lose the election may actually go to prison. There's no succession plan here, no one to take over the party once he's gone, no real ideas or policy goals to champion (other than making everyone mad) and every GOP voter and donor knows that letting people like Kari Lake and MTG run the party would be an absolute disaster. I mean they're getting their asses kicked everywhere now, once Trump's gone it will only get worse. Someone has to position themselves as a non-insane and capable person who could actually win elections, since everyone else has either retired or is Ron DeSantis.

Haley's gonna start calling referring to all kinds of things as 'babies'.

It'd be funny if she used it the way Sammy Davis Jr. did.

she's gonna endorse Lyndon LaRouche as a write-in

Haley will do whatever she has to to position herself for 2028.

It doesn't matter and nobody cares, but Dean Phillips ended his campaign today too.

Who?

mike jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlRYftQTj9U

who is Mike Joooooooooones

Dean Phillips? From Luna and Galaxie 500?

My favorite Corn Pop band

Mike Jones would’ve had a better shot at the nomination to be really real

Back then voters didn’t want me, now I’m hot voters all on me

Haley will do whatever she has to to position herself for 2028.

To paraphrase Ben Bradlee, she gave what was like a non-endorsement endorsement this morning, leaving the door open for her to actually endorse later under some bogus pretense. (If she is angling for 2028, I don't know why she thinks she'd be in any better position then than now, even if Trump does lose.)

I don't know, if Trump somehow manages to not win again and reinforces his rep as the perennial loser, she may want to stay detached so she can say I told you so without the taint of opportunistic sycophancy

regardless of whether or not Trump loses, the republican base is not going to get any more moderate in 2028, and I don't think she's ever going to be president. Harris has a better chance than her, and deserves it more

I don't care much about Haley, but do wonder about her supporters

The only way Trump lets Haley into his cabinet is if he wants her nearby to torture her.

"She's not my type"

lol PK

she may want to stay detached so she can say I told you so without the taint of opportunistic sycophancy

That would definitely be her rationale for keeping some distance, but I don't see this party turning back either--if Trump loses, his supporters will just become more resentful and hateful, and I don't think that distance would be worth anything in 2028. And if she does endorse, can't see that helping her either. She's basically nowhwere. She should not endorse and try to land on CNN or something.

I don't care much about Haley, but do wonder about her supporters

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, March 6, 2024

Except for a few, her supporters are going to go to Trump is what I think

yeah but a few is all it takes