Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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One thing that comes up at my work on a regular basis is that when we propose selling AI chatbot services to a client, we are not to use the term "generative" because the chatbot application does not come up with answers to issues based on a generative learning model, the solutions are pre-scripted based on the client environment.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 10 March 2024 16:27 (one year ago)

sounds like a legacy product to me šŸ˜‰

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Sunday, 10 March 2024 17:09 (one year ago)

Yeah, who knows how much AI is really in it, but we are making a big push to sell it right now.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 10 March 2024 17:34 (one year ago)

good article by Ed Zitron about the Reddit IPO and how AI is permanently and perhaps irreversibly destroying the human-generated portion of the the internet:

https://www.wheresyoured.at/are-we-watching-the-internet-die/

frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2024 17:37 (one year ago)

ai is a terrible term that doesnt mean anything but ai is an amazing term that doesnt mean anything, depending on how you look at it

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 17:44 (one year ago)

neural net is possibly even dumber cause at least ai isnt making specific claims i mean what is intelligence after all no one knows, however how does a brain work also no one knows but it is at least a physical thing

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 17:46 (one year ago)

ranking ais

1 neural net: is good at chess
2 generative ai: makes horrible writing and pictures
3 im not sure what the other ais are

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 17:48 (one year ago)

neural net is fine imo, it's just a catchy way to describe graphs. it's like ford selling the bronco, no one thinks there's more than a tenuous link to horses

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 17:59 (one year ago)

you know thats not true

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:00 (one year ago)

just goofing

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:02 (one year ago)

lol

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:02 (one year ago)

saw someone in a twitter thread getting very mad cause someone said a brain isnt a computer

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:08 (one year ago)

people are the weirdest is what i always say

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:09 (one year ago)

https://media1.tenor.com/m/4MJrhjQSRJUAAAAC/gi-joe-i%27m-a-computer.gif

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:14 (one year ago)

thats right

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:16 (one year ago)

there’s always someone dropping in with ā€œwe used to call people who did the calculations computers thoughā€

sure yeah that was a thing if you want to drop into the philosophy of ā€œwhat is a computerā€ but I mostly think of modern programmable digital computers. breaking it down etc

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:17 (one year ago)

back when machines were the hottest tech the brain was often described as a one with lil gears and what not and some people even thought that it was

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:20 (one year ago)

yeah that’s been a problem for me, thinking ā€œno one actually believes this, or that these are comparable things outside of thought exercisesā€ but nope, people exist that think there’s a little guy pulling levers in their heads. that little guy? god

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

hes the one

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

this is cute you guys but neural networks are a thing that exists. you may not like the name but they do in fact use principles from neurological modelling. there are extremely smart people who have looked at the computational aspects of that to create algos that are now actually really changing the way things get done. my case in point is a 20-year-old recorded conversation between my mom and her mother, recorded poorly, my grandmother with her strong georgia accent, interrupting herself constantly etc and i can just run the soundfiles through this thing - which is free - and it's like 95% accurate, even proper names. it's mindblowing. there's a lil ol company called apple you may have heard of it that includes dictation software with its premium computing devices and that dictation software just blows in comparison, like just throw it in the garbage

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:28 (one year ago)

yes those are weighted graphs that were somewhat inspired by what we knew about the function of biological neurons. we’re talking about the dinguses who think ā€œinspired byā€ means ā€œfunctions the same, brains are biological or digitalā€

obviously the new research that indicates biological neural nets may have a quantum component means we’ll only have real electric brains when we get better at quantum computing (yes this is me doing a bit)

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:32 (one year ago)

which model are you using with MacWhisper btw? I was somewhat surprised their large model is only 3GB-ish but I guess that’s still pretty big

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:35 (one year ago)

fwiw I think the neural net name is fine and sounds cool but I tire of the dinguses

also, I found my graph theory book from college the other day so I’m waving it at the screen right now

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:37 (one year ago)

i’m using Medium

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:42 (one year ago)

this is cute you guys but neural networks are a thing that exists. you may not like the name but they do in fact use principles from neurological modelling...

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, March 11, 2024 2:28 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol this is the exact conversation i had with my 80 year old father where his argument was "there is a computer program thats good"

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:44 (one year ago)

similar software too he was talking about text translation

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:46 (one year ago)

nice

I'm kind of surprised there aren't more consumer apps like that, just taking the free stuff from OpenAI (or w/e) and grafting a decent UI on top. Instead we get eight zillion chatbots and a lot of github pages with scripts. And the cloud providers doing "but you can run it in the cloud for $5/hour" grifts

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:47 (one year ago)

the funny thing about the translation programs is they are actually very bad, but certainly way better than nothin

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:48 (one year ago)

no idea if apple's specifically looking at making their live transcription better. kind of two different use cases that are merging into one. using the same voice recognition that lets you tell the computer to turn on the lights for live transcription of people dictating documents or carrying on conversations probably doesn't help their image that much

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:49 (one year ago)

my guess would be that the live voice to text stuff is so-so because the more context you have, the better. we're not at the point where it's just doing word-to-word swaps now but sometimes it sure feels like it

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:50 (one year ago)

we used to call people who did the calculations mentats

mookieproof, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:53 (one year ago)

Apple has also started requiring that podcast publishers either supply their own transcription or use Apple's own; i hope their own is better than what they ship with macOS ...

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 March 2024 18:56 (one year ago)

the ideal way to listen to a podcast is have it transcribed and then read by the machines

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:57 (one year ago)

especially if its a comedy one thats just three guys riffin

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:58 (one year ago)

spellcheckmate dinguses

mark s, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:58 (one year ago)

eventually we could get the computers to listen to them so we don't have to

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 March 2024 19:00 (one year ago)

chapo did skynet

mark s, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:01 (one year ago)

hmm, doesn't identify when different people are speaking but the transcription seems pretty good

Ʉɯ ļøµ (°▔°) (mh), Monday, 11 March 2024 19:09 (one year ago)

eventually we could get the computers to listen to them so we don't have to

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, March 11, 2024 3:00 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thats the singularity

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:10 (one year ago)

This is why they want to ban tik tok pic.twitter.com/PEReI1BxIw

— Rob (@robrousseau) March 11, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:18 (one year ago)

powerful stuff

lagāˆžn, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:21 (one year ago)

He cited a DARPA experiment in which a squad of Marines defeated an AI-governed robot that had been trained to detect them simply by altering their physical profiles. Two walked inside a large cardboard box. Others somersaulted. One wore the branches of a fir tree. All were able to approach over open ground and touch the robot without detection.

src: https://harpers.org/archive/2024/03/the-pentagons-silicon-valley-problem-andrew-cockburn/

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 16 March 2024 21:03 (one year ago)

to be fair only the most highly trained and vigilant humans can detect the cardboard box trick

lagāˆžn, Saturday, 16 March 2024 21:06 (one year ago)

Metal Gear taught us that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 March 2024 21:11 (one year ago)

this is how paul overcame bene geserit traps according to the lore

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Saturday, 16 March 2024 21:13 (one year ago)

Cannot sufficiently stress how much this shit can fuck off

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/suno-ai-chatgpt-for-music-1234982307/

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 17 March 2024 19:30 (one year ago)

The fact that music listeners so vastly outnumber music-makers at the moment is ā€œso lopsided,ā€ he argues, seeing Suno as poised to fix that perceived imbalance.


i’m not sure this guy has grasped the concept of supply and demand

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 March 2024 20:20 (one year ago)

The fact that diners so vastly outnumber chefs at the moment

The fact that students so vastly outnumber teachers at the moment

The fact that patients so vastly outnumber doctors at the moment

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 17 March 2024 20:43 (one year ago)

All kinds of everything remind me of you

Mark G, Monday, 18 March 2024 22:38 (one year ago)

whats the next sv hype object after ai, crypto had an amazing run of doing nothing while maintaining high visibility, the metaverse was basically dead on arrival, i think ai is gonna be closer to the metaverse timeline just cause its so expensive its hard to be all were in early days while burning through billions in data bills

lagāˆžn, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:20 (one year ago)


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