Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

neural net is possibly even dumber cause at least ai isnt making specific claims i mean what is intelligence after all no one knows, however how does a brain work also no one knows but it is at least a physical thing

ranking ais

1 neural net: is good at chess
2 generative ai: makes horrible writing and pictures
3 im not sure what the other ais are

neural net is fine imo, it's just a catchy way to describe graphs. it's like ford selling the bronco, no one thinks there's more than a tenuous link to horses

you know thats not true

just goofing

lol

saw someone in a twitter thread getting very mad cause someone said a brain isnt a computer

people are the weirdest is what i always say

https://media1.tenor.com/m/4MJrhjQSRJUAAAAC/gi-joe-i%27m-a-computer.gif

thats right

there’s always someone dropping in with “we used to call people who did the calculations computers though”

sure yeah that was a thing if you want to drop into the philosophy of “what is a computer” but I mostly think of modern programmable digital computers. breaking it down etc

back when machines were the hottest tech the brain was often described as a one with lil gears and what not and some people even thought that it was

yeah that’s been a problem for me, thinking “no one actually believes this, or that these are comparable things outside of thought exercises” but nope, people exist that think there’s a little guy pulling levers in their heads. that little guy? god

hes the one

this is cute you guys but neural networks are a thing that exists. you may not like the name but they do in fact use principles from neurological modelling. there are extremely smart people who have looked at the computational aspects of that to create algos that are now actually really changing the way things get done. my case in point is a 20-year-old recorded conversation between my mom and her mother, recorded poorly, my grandmother with her strong georgia accent, interrupting herself constantly etc and i can just run the soundfiles through this thing - which is free - and it's like 95% accurate, even proper names. it's mindblowing. there's a lil ol company called apple you may have heard of it that includes dictation software with its premium computing devices and that dictation software just blows in comparison, like just throw it in the garbage

yes those are weighted graphs that were somewhat inspired by what we knew about the function of biological neurons. we’re talking about the dinguses who think “inspired by” means “functions the same, brains are biological or digital”

obviously the new research that indicates biological neural nets may have a quantum component means we’ll only have real electric brains when we get better at quantum computing (yes this is me doing a bit)

which model are you using with MacWhisper btw? I was somewhat surprised their large model is only 3GB-ish but I guess that’s still pretty big

fwiw I think the neural net name is fine and sounds cool but I tire of the dinguses

also, I found my graph theory book from college the other day so I’m waving it at the screen right now

i’m using Medium

this is cute you guys but neural networks are a thing that exists. you may not like the name but they do in fact use principles from neurological modelling...

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, March 11, 2024 2:28 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol this is the exact conversation i had with my 80 year old father where his argument was "there is a computer program thats good"

similar software too he was talking about text translation

nice

I'm kind of surprised there aren't more consumer apps like that, just taking the free stuff from OpenAI (or w/e) and grafting a decent UI on top. Instead we get eight zillion chatbots and a lot of github pages with scripts. And the cloud providers doing "but you can run it in the cloud for $5/hour" grifts

the funny thing about the translation programs is they are actually very bad, but certainly way better than nothin

no idea if apple's specifically looking at making their live transcription better. kind of two different use cases that are merging into one. using the same voice recognition that lets you tell the computer to turn on the lights for live transcription of people dictating documents or carrying on conversations probably doesn't help their image that much

my guess would be that the live voice to text stuff is so-so because the more context you have, the better. we're not at the point where it's just doing word-to-word swaps now but sometimes it sure feels like it

we used to call people who did the calculations mentats

Apple has also started requiring that podcast publishers either supply their own transcription or use Apple's own; i hope their own is better than what they ship with macOS ...

the ideal way to listen to a podcast is have it transcribed and then read by the machines

especially if its a comedy one thats just three guys riffin

spellcheckmate dinguses

eventually we could get the computers to listen to them so we don't have to

chapo did skynet

hmm, doesn't identify when different people are speaking but the transcription seems pretty good

eventually we could get the computers to listen to them so we don't have to

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, March 11, 2024 3:00 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thats the singularity

This is why they want to ban tik tok pic.twitter.com/PEReI1BxIw

— Rob (@robrousseau) March 11, 2024

powerful stuff

He cited a DARPA experiment in which a squad of Marines defeated an AI-governed robot that had been trained to detect them simply by altering their physical profiles. Two walked inside a large cardboard box. Others somersaulted. One wore the branches of a fir tree. All were able to approach over open ground and touch the robot without detection.

src: https://harpers.org/archive/2024/03/the-pentagons-silicon-valley-problem-andrew-cockburn/

to be fair only the most highly trained and vigilant humans can detect the cardboard box trick

Metal Gear taught us that

this is how paul overcame bene geserit traps according to the lore

Cannot sufficiently stress how much this shit can fuck off

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/suno-ai-chatgpt-for-music-1234982307/

The fact that music listeners so vastly outnumber music-makers at the moment is “so lopsided,” he argues, seeing Suno as poised to fix that perceived imbalance.

The fact that diners so vastly outnumber chefs at the moment

The fact that students so vastly outnumber teachers at the moment

The fact that patients so vastly outnumber doctors at the moment

All kinds of everything remind me of you

whats the next sv hype object after ai, crypto had an amazing run of doing nothing while maintaining high visibility, the metaverse was basically dead on arrival, i think ai is gonna be closer to the metaverse timeline just cause its so expensive its hard to be all were in early days while burning through billions in data bills

I'd have to live to be 600 in order to listen to all the bands I've heard about on this message board alone

btw lol i hadnt heard about the currency used in microsofts big investment

Only a fraction of Microsoft’s $10 billion investment in OpenAI has been wired to the startup, while a significant portion of the funding, divided into tranches, is in the form of cloud compute purchases instead of cash, according to people familiar with their agreement.

https://www.semafor.com/article/11/18/2023/openai-has-received-just-a-fraction-of-microsofts-10-billion-investment

Sounds like the Nvidia thing (investing in startups who use the money to buy Nvidia gpus)

https://archive.is/2024.02.07-141916/https://www.ft.com/content/e1beb7a5-6c91-4d7f-bc90-79689774881d

azure credits are funny. it means openai gets a playground for whatever they’re doing, but it’s also funny money. did they get the negotiated discount azure credits, or one-to-one dollar-based azure credits?

depending on how the plan is negotiated, the azure bucks actually go less far if you don’t use them all and pay a little money past your discounted spend. microsoft’s real skill is the deals department

I’d guess that since it’s advertised as “look how much we took in” it’s the dollar equivalent. which could be as little as half as much if you’re going by corporate bulk spending plans