Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

“pumping the brakes” is bad but the verb “brakecheck” to describe trying to lockup a tailgater still feels current.

how do they use it as a verb?

Gross

I've heard it used at in-person meetings as "I'm going to ask a question, and let's just popcorn some answers" meaning you want to hear from a bunch of people around the room really quickly.

Hi I am Jeff, they/them pronouns

Again I ask, why do people who use they/them pronouns not also use the royal we to refer to themselves?

i've never been sure why it takes two slashed pronouns

like with she/* or they/* is there something extra the denominator will impart?

I will popcorn it over to Kathy

Fuck me Ive never heard this usage and this is hilarious.

Corporate world (and I say it as someone in one) is a fucking joke.

yeah that's a new one on me... will get a thrill when it finally makes its way to my institution!

if ever i try to use this ironically please popcorn me in the nuts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Popcorn

Do cinemas have popcorn machines that pop from kernels. Just wondering where the widespread image to tie to the word comes from. I thought microwave and oven pop it yourself varieties were within containers so you wouldn't see process.
I thought brainstorm was the given term.

Again I ask, why do people who use they/them pronouns not also use the royal we to refer to themselves?

because they/them in this context is not plural

If popcorn is a product that is encountered ready popped in a bag of butterkist or whatever brand or heated in a stand in a cinema where do you get the cognitive link? Thought you'd need one for the term to work. You used to get clear plastic topped machines where you saw the process, popcorn blizzards.
If I'm getting the usage right. You want a fresh idea from a random member of the group popping up like the popped corn you used to see when that was the process. But metaphor falls flat without the image surely?

We make popcorn at home in a pot on the stove. The pot has a glass lid, so we can see the kernels popping. It does often look as though the first kernel to go has caused a chain reaction, even though you know it hasn't.

Husband claims that in his giant tech corporation, they use popcorning to refer to the rate at which people are joining an online meeting. When the popping-in of new people slows to an acceptable level, they start the meeting. "Just waiting for the popcorning to stop before we start." But this makes no sense to me either, because why not just say "waiting for the corn to stop popping?"

disappointing that it doesnt mean that people just sit there bopping along while the hot butter tune plays

unperson no one says "we" because "I" isn't gendered... surely..?

because they/them in this context is not plural

right but what about he/his, she/her. What is the extra info that the bit after the slash provides? no one says "he/her" (although that would be wild and i would be here for it if so)

i mean.. let's really double click on this

for uncommon ones like zi/zir, the bit after the slash is informative.

Thinking of popcorned. I was wondering what else popcorn did that other things didnt that other things might be named after. Beyond lying there in a sugary or salty buttery coating like.
Was the inserting one's member into the bottom of a cardboard container full of the stuff to give your date a surprise ever other than fiction and a bit rapey.

Husband claims that in his giant tech corporation, they use popcorning to refer to the rate at which people are joining an online meeting. When the popping-in of new people slows to an acceptable level, they start the meeting. "Just waiting for the popcorning to stop before we start." But this makes no sense to me either, because why not just say "waiting for the corn to stop popping?"

This actually makes it a lot less puzzling, thanks!

ahh that makes sense and I almost like it in that context

I do like it

I just like popcorn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1IwDLkw_uw

My dad used to sing that when making popcorn.

See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxNnqTcHhg

I don't know if this is why it became routine to mention two pronouns, but some people use "she/they" or "he/they" so they need to include both.

I haven't heard "popcorn" as a verb yet, but I'm familiar with "popcorn" style meetings or organized conversations, where you're encouraged to jump in and speak whenever you feel like, as opposed to raising your hand and waiting for the chair to call on you in order.

Looking around, it looks like in the business world, there's a slightly more formal method where "popcorn style" means one person speaks and then designates the next speaker, as sarahell mentioned in the original post. So I guess people took the method name and decided they had to now say "I'm popcorning" lol

No-one actually says "Let a man come in..." then?

people use "they/them" or "he/him" because pronouns in English are marked for case, and those are the two forms of their pronoun of choice (subject and object forms anyway... English has the possessive as well but the convention omits that because only their is different from objective form in the possessive*). if my pronouns are "she/her" that means when referring to me, you use those pronouns in their respective cases: "she is coming to the meeting later", "email her to ask why she isn't at the meeting".

we've been using "they" as both the third person singular and plural for hundreds and hundreds of years, so having your pronouns be "she/they" isn't all that strange. I think the novel ze/zim xe/xim ungendered pronouns are interesting but are a really hard sell.

*the possessive in English also isn't really a case the way the other two are, because /s is a (start your comedy engines) clitic

make that 's

and I guess I also meant "having your pronouns be she/them" sorry just woke up

So like

“She told me to mail it to them once it was ready”

instead of

“She told me to mail it to her once it was ready”

?

I obviously support everybody being called whatever they want but does anyone really do this particular move?

No, I guess if you’re unsure you refer to the person as they/them in both instances. Always assumed she/they means a person who is comfortable being called either. My brother is he/they but I’ve never asked him about it.

(Also, pronouns discourse on ilx? 💀)

Yeah and tbf none of any of this annoys me, contra the thread title.

she/they or he/they could indicate some kind of genderfluid or non-binary identity, but I'm not sure... just ask (respectfully). once you get past the idea of a gender binary being essential, it doesn't really matter why people choose what they choose only that you follow their preference (although linguistically speaking there are probably some practical limits... I've heard about people who want to be addressed with alternating pronouns and while I respect the desire to have their identity acknowledged, that's probably too much cognitive load, especially if your group has some non-native speakers in it).

of course if I’m unsure I’ll ask. my question was why anyone chooses to write “he/him” on a bio. I thought there may have been some nuance I was missing.

have we verbed yet

Yeah lol sorry for prolonging this utterly cliched subject

fwiw Tracer my other guess as to why you would use "he/him" instead of just "he" is that when you're saying these things out loud, articulating both makes it easier for your listener to catch what you're saying (spoken out loud, "he" and "she" sound awfully similar) and remember the correct usage. And then the convention simply carried over to written bios from there

and here in Montreal, my pronouns are he/il lol

Looking around, it looks like in the business world, there's a slightly more formal method where "popcorn style" means one person speaks and then designates the next speaker, as sarahell mentioned in the original post. So I guess people took the method name and decided they had to now say "I'm popcorning" lol

― rob, Tuesday, March 12, 2024 8:51 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

We have guinea pigs now and apparently when a guinea pig does a little jump to express happiness it is called popcorning.

@ Tracer, he/him in a bio makes obvious sense if the individual is trans, or has a fluid mode of presentation whereby their pronouns might not be immediately obvious. Masc-presenting cis men using he/him in their bio was always, I felt, an act of normalisation regarding stating one's gender preference, while acknowledging the possibility that certain individuals who present decisively masculine might have alternate pronouns; a he/him acknowledges that possibility.

The origin of the subjective/possessive pronoun declaration comes from the era of ze/zir and other modified predecessors to the widely-used they/them. He/they and she/they, to the best of my knowledge, are recent mutations of the form to denote a "gender skew"; that either pronoun is appropriate and welcome, and to define oneself as being on a spectrum. I am all-chips-in on this mutation, mutating language is great.

Lol Stevo … the member in the popcorn container is now going to … stick with me

thanks fgti, interesting

I mean, my bf is cis male he/him but is very enby-presenting, to a point that my friends and family default to they/them usage upon meeting him. He states his pronouns in professional correspondence. I have a gender-neutral friend who used it/its for a decade prior to they/them becoming common usage, and has switched to they/them. My trans friends are funny, if somebody says a they/them (usually by accident) they get funny-mad, "don't you they/them me! these hormones were expensive"

lol yes

My trans friends are the same way when they/themmed— my friend Z gets absolutely furious. He once said to someone at a party, "I am a faggot, if you can't handle that, then stop talking to me!"

I admit that the "she/they" "he/they" thing gets me a little riled up at times for reasons that a lot of queers can probably easily suss out, but that's besides the point.

https://www.eater.com/24022477/why-is-everyone-saying-welcome-in

not sure if this has been covered, but i heard this phrase three times last week, over in-store radio, in ASMR videos... and i found myself turning inside-out, so i searched it up today and found this.

whoa thank you for looking this up, i have been wondering the same thing. like everyone at work started saying that at once i thought i was losing my mind