Elon Musk

camping is fun its an activity you can do with friends go somewhere nice and sit around a fire roast a hot dog eat some beers whats not to like you might not sleep that well but its ok youll sleep again, sleeping in the car is just useful sometimes its not supposed to be fun

um camping is just sleeping without a fixed shelter while doing fun remote things, with friends if u r lucky. going camping to “camp” seems v v silly to me.

i am about to go camping in mexico. if there’s reasonable cheap safe room avail, i’ll go for that for sure.

I have a weird angle because I live in the most terraformed, maybe least public land area and you get some state campgrounds with the fire ring and parking lot at most up a hill or KOA campgrounds or w/e and maybe a rare area you could hike into, but that’s probably the next state over

outside of the lakes governed by the Army Corps of Engineers with maintained dams it’s like, private land everywhere. both sides of rivers are private land, sometimes with no trespassing signs! it’s insane

when the entire Bundy ranch shit with people who were super angry they couldn’t just let their animals roam around federal land happened it was just silly and foreign to me!

Elon is worse than those people by far. just letting all his rocket pad debris blast into a neighboring wetland. working off the public money for space crap, sustainability credits. just a hatred of the commons he regularly exploits

are u in TX? becuz that’s one reason i picked mexico.

I backpack fairly deep into wilderness areas, but over the decades I've accumulated enough lightweight gear that I can maintain a basic level of comfort nearly the whole time, as long as I'm not too picky about dirt, sweat and bugs, or eating rehydrated food. It's still about seeing nature and having some fun. I don't know, maybe table would call it glamping, too.

if you're eating food and you have a sleeping bag, it's glamping

if youre not doing fun remote activities then hold on excel crashed

anyway that tent is a joke, let's keep focus on the south african asshole

shoulda built a cybersprinter van imo

ya that wouldve been smart, or just a normal pickup

this is a good way to think about it— like, is there a fire ring? picnic bench? pit toilet or actual running water with toilet on a larger campground? that’s glamping in my book.

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, March 11, 2024 3:28 PM (one hour ago)

this is dumb, all of these things are still camping, glamping is when there's a floor

Aimless, you’re a backpacker, what you’re doing isn’t glamping.

At the end of the day, this is very silly, we just have different ideas of what camping is.

to me the earth is the floor, maybe thats just me

table's definition is pretty weird because at least here on the EC it means that p much all state-run campgrounds are actually glampgrounds?

https://parks.ny.gov/camping/campsites/default.aspx

Most sites have a picnic table, fire pit or ring and nearby restrooms and many include amenities such as electric, water and sewer hook-up, and platforms.

yet these campsites are reserved for $20 a night... a glamp experience at a decidedly non-glamp price!

he’s obviously exaggerating with “to me, that’s glamping!” but idk setting the bar pretty low is funny

do u even camp bro

if you don’t have to carry your poop out and leave no trace, that’s glamping

some places in the usa unwinterized cabins are called camps, but staying in one isnt called camping, much to think about

cold glampin' with flavor

― mookieproof, Monday, March 11, 2024 5:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i got a roof tent, boy i'm not trampin

John Cougar Melonglamp

The way in which I personally do a thing is the only way to do that thing and if you do it differently you need to come up with a whole new word for it, sorry I don't make the rules except that I do

Notes on Glamp

I love the outdoors and being outdoors and going to new outdoors places and campfires and even spending the night in the outdoors, but camping sucks. It's like you spend all this time and effort and money to simulate living at home in a wildly inferior way that leaves you tired, achey, dirty, and hot/cold. Give me a cabin any day. It doesn't have to be glamping, I don't need running water or a flush toilet and shower, I just need a roof and walls and a bed. And a wood burning stove, if it's cold.

We used to go camping, as a crew, and one by one families dropped off. The final time was when we went somewhere, a well-regarded site, and it was in the '90s and humid and full of mosquitos and mud, and after the first night even the most pro-camper among us knew we would probably never do it again.

(BTW, fun fact, up until at least through the late '80s, a lot of US highway rest stops were still "rustic," without flush toilets. Maybe this is still the case, I've never encountered one myself, but my wife tells me they were staples of her visits to Nebraska.)

is how I break it down to an ex-tent

utter king-level posting from wins here, gone unremarked upon for a whole day. a prophet is without honor in his own country, shame

lol

I've only ever done a little bit of overnight backpacking, and a fair amount of car camping, and overall I agree that it's more trouble than I want to put into it. I love hiking, but I much prefer a good long day hike that I can do with a minimal pack and preparation (and be home in time for a nice bath and dinner). I know people who really love the entire backcountry experience, though, and I respect and admire their dedication.

its not a big deal doesnt require any big investment just lay down in the woods

Y'all are forgetting one of the best aspects of camping: the terrifying noises in the night.

i was running in the mountains at night once when i heard the craziest sounds of i guess an animal being killed idk it was so loud and strange, mountain lion territory

raccoon fight outside your window at 3am is bad enough in a house

ive had a moose walk right by me like ten feet away while i was lying in my sleeping bag, very dangerous animal

Screech owls sound like humans being tortured.

I love hearing furtive footsteps in the leaves right outside the tent.

In all seriousness, I love backpacking and camping. I've been doing it with my kids for years, it's a great way to bond. But being in a remote place with only the resident creatures for company takes some getting used to.

xp I keep thinking that in the lower 48 because I've seen some huuuge ones in northern Minnesota but some friends in Alaska were seeing them everywhere last week. Not sure if it's a different type of moose or if the younger ones just roam around everywhere up there

My sister encountered one a couple of years ago in Colorado. She said it was terrifying.

ive seen tons of moose you just gotta keep your distance be respectful and so forth, the big bulls with full racks are amazing, fuckin huge beasts

one time i was running the woods and almost ran right into one, it was just a small female tho about horse size, we both took off opposite directions

Foxes sound like a woman being attacked, it's horrifying.

The sounds most familiar to me from camping are some neighboring site hooting it up till the early hours, and the inevitable sound of someone waking up in the middle of the night, unzipping the tent, then wandering off in the bushes to pee.

xxp This one moseyed right up to the campsite, they couldn't really keep their distance. I guess it ambled off after a while. Maybe it was hoping for s'mores.

Screech owls sound like humans being tortured.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:04 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i heard weirdest funniest bird at night once and then did the call for a bunch of people before one finally told me it was a barred owl, cartoon ass sounding owl get real

Iirc there used to be a late night infomercial for some Faces of Death sort of video called When Animals Attack, or something like that. Mostly it was recreations, but as I remember it there is one real death in there, and it's somebody being stomped by a moose. The video doesn't show the apparent preceding several minutes of these dumb people throwing snowballs at the moose.

worth a try you know

timely article https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/us/moose-encounter-what-to-do.html

However, the clearest sign of imminent trouble — in the form of an animal weighing 1,000 pounds or more coming at you — is if a moose’s tongue is out and it’s licking its mouth, he said.

In that case, Mr. Libbey said, it’s no longer a question of if the moose will charge. “It’s going to happen,” he said.

licking its lips in anticipation of stomping you out

free the killfiled owl

was passing thru rocky mountain last fall during what apparently was rutting season. saw lot of rutting elk, sounded like a horror movie. not sure if i can reliably tell the difference between elk and moose but i'm pretty sure an elk would be just as capable at stomping me out

did you go to estes to see the elk did you see the marmots people getting so close to elk there is wild

raccoon fight outside your window at 3am is bad enough in a house

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, March 12, 2024 9:02 AM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I lived in a complete shithole of a house in college where raccoons had taken up residence in the dirt basement and used to hold 3AM scream quorums directly under the floorboards of my bedroom, a real treat

I love that this is what the Musk thread has become

I guess that part of the reason why I enjoy camping is the backcountry experience, to a degree— I honestly think that being uncomfortable is worth it, especially if that is what’s required to experience real wilderness. So I recognize that part of my definition is borne from a sometimes latent or contradictory dislike of modern comforts and culture and all that they bring.

We had a marmot trying to grab snacks from our backpack at Rocky Mountain National Park a couple years ago.

In the forest near me there are black squirrels that screech like monkeys. Squirrels in New Jersey are gray and pretty much silent, so the first few times I heard this I was pretty unnerved.

did you go to estes to see the elk did you see the marmots people getting so close to elk there is wild

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:51 AM (seven minutes ago)

yeah definitely saw some people getting close to elk. the elk were overrunning the place, even some of the park rangers came out of the visitors center and were taking video on their phones, so i knew it was a special occasion

did see the marmots but it wasn't at rocky mountain

actually now that i'm thinking about it i was taking the shuttle back from bear lake when we passed an elk on the side of the ride. as we drove past it headbutted the side of the bus, i think i have video