Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

probably because i have two doubles to work this week and that's hard enough. seeing contempt for my work just set me off. i am not sorry but i do want to burn this thread to the ground.

i welcome people to my class, to my restaurant, occasionally to my home. how is this an issue?! truly do not get it.
the peeving has reached a fever-peeve.

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:48 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think it's the fact that people are welcoming people that is the issue. I welcome people all the time at work and it would be weird not to. It's the weird phrase "welcome in". I have never heard nor used that in my life.

Maybe this exclusively a Scottish thing but does nobody itt welcome in the New Year?

When I hear this I hear “Wilkommen” and I imagine I’m at Oktoberfest

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64137444

I don’t speak German. I don’t intuit that “Wilkommen” translates to “welcome in” tho.

I don’t care/mind “welcome in”, if I’ve ever heard it I probably just think it sounds like a Red States thing and that’s fine

"What can I get started for you" doesn't aggravate me, and I assume it's used to remind jerks there's a made-to-order process involved, but it does kinda feel like it's trying to disclaim responsibility for the meal? Like "look, I will initiate the process of your food being prepared, but honestly, a lot of this is out of my hands"

if you go to the Wicker Man restaurant they greet you by singing Sumer is Icumen In

they actually do not -- I stayed the night at the Ellangowan and there was no singing! I do firmly believe that the place is haunted though.

I don’t speak German. I don’t intuit that “Wilkommen” translates to “welcome in” tho.

It just translates to welcome.

my dream is shattered... I guess the 70s were the last decade in the West for casual group singing

strictly come intuit

while we're picking on unfortunate wait staff, "that's going to be your menu" annoys me no end. It *is* my menu.

Ofc, La Lechera is correct here. In terms of restaurant customers and wait staff each having legitimate reasons to beef about one another, the wait staff wins hands down 95% of the time. "Welcome in" doesn't even register.

moving away from food service, sorry or yw...

i know corporate speak is well-trodden itt, but for good reason

actual sentence emailed to me today by a distant higher-up:

This is just an FYI now, i.e. there isn't an immediate ask for you to take action on.

idk what mysterious character trait lurks in the psyche of a person who can compose such a sentence in earnest, but whatever it is, i really believe it is the trait that allows one to make far more money than i ever will in the corporate world. listening to one of these business vanguards rip a full half-hour plus of this on a zoom meeting will always make me think of the washing machine guy from in fabric

my direct boss is a large southern man who used to do a traveling poker tournament service out of the trunk of his car. he quickly ascended as a company guy b/c he can drone on with the best of them and approaches the cultist lingo with absolutely zero sense of irony

.....

What's wrong with that sentence

you're hired!

lol and fair but also still

i admit it's not the most egregious example, just the latest from a character i find irksome due to a zoom endurance incident

More secondhand embarrassment than annoyance but: that “ourahhh!” thing army dudes shout.

what could possibly be strange or novel about this

are you all insane

maybe it's so annoying because it reminds the recipient that they are at work, the only place in society where such sentences feel normal

if the point of the thread is "i hate my work" then sure but

if we're still talking about my post, that's def not why it's annoying. i assumed sarahell was xposting back to the "welcome in" convo

Karl’s annoyance topic… it sounds like something someone typed on their phone using autosuggest…

my direct boss is a large southern man who used to do a traveling poker tournament service out of the trunk of his car

this was the best elevator speech shit the coen brothers ever put on me, but I couldn’t finance it just then

"Ask" as a noun (e.g., "What was the ask?") Has that already been mentioned a few dozen times?

"Ask" as a noun (e.g., "What was the ask?") Has that already been mentioned a few dozen times?

just please tell me your asks are actionable or we might have to spitball some BPIs to get these deliverables rerouted to a different pillar of excellence entirely

re: restaurant workers, one of my most memorably awkward experiences involved a couple we knew who came over from another neighborhood in L.A., we ordered a pair of pizzas online from one of our local spots. the husband of the other couple and i walked over to pick it up. it had yet to be put in the oven and so we waited about ten minutes. on the way out, we received an apology and a "thanks for your patience" and this other guy i was with grabs the pizzas and says "WHATEVER!" and just storms out in an exaggerated dramatic huff while i stood there, the pizza guy looks at me with a wtf expression, and i had to quickly apologize and then get outta there. it sounds minor maybe, but in the moment it was just such an overreaction to something which i wouldn't even call a mild inconvenience. to me it was a chance to hang and chat a bit while waiting but no...it led to hell hath no fury.

i really despise being with people who condescend or scold or get snappy with service workers, though it's been useful to a degree in figuring out which people i don't want to hang out with anymore.

that's what we call "Tuesday"

it's just shocking to me to see people here, in a space i consider fairly reasonable and civilized, punch/peeve down at/be openly irritable toward service workers for the language they use or the fact that they are actually not responsible for making the food themselves (usually). i always come back to the same question -- why the hate?! why do otherwise normal people think it's ok to shit on service workers even if only to criticize their chosen language on a peeve thread on a messageboard?

no one has even tried to answer my question of why. why do you think it's ok to peeve down? peeve on powerful people, not peons.

The specific phrase ("welcome in") is weird/off-putting/annoying. One can say/believe that while also believing that anyone who treats a waiter like shit should have ground glass put in their food or at the very least permanently banned from that establishment.

the thing is, it's not! it's not annoying or off-putting. it's completely innocuous. the peeving is unwarranted and therefore seems to be more about the speaker than what they say. like when people peeve on vocal fry or whatever feature of young women's language.

Nah, as someone who works with words all day, "welcome in" is an unnecessary preposition. It's wrong.

no one has even tried to answer my question of why. why do you think it's ok to peeve down? peeve on powerful people, not peons.

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, March 14, 2024 1:17 PM bookmarkflaglink

Some people want things to be peeved about. It gives them pleasure.

Personally, I think it's not wait staff that are overusing phrases, but diners who are dining out too frequently if they are hearing phrases too often.

xp or word workers working with words too much lol

"welcome in" is so innocuous in a world where we have "mouthfeel", "soft opening of a new fast casual concept", and idk "nomgasm" or whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHYDTJyZ0Co

“Daypart”

I think these objections to certain word choices are not about hating players, or indeed servers, but more about hating the game/the script.

Nah, as someone who works with words all day, "welcome in" is an unnecessary preposition. It's wrong.

― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson)

the fuck is this

I expect "come on in" should be peeved on as twice as annoying since it has twice the unnecessary prepositions as "welcome in"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdT8Tlzto20

"Welcome" is a one-word sentence. "Come" can be a one-word sentence, but that's rare. It usually requires a preposition, i.e. "come in," "come out," or "come on" (whether you're just using it as an intensifier or as "come on [my face]"). This thread is making me question y'all's literacy.

welcome does nothing come doesnt

Let’s be honest

Nah, as someone who works with words all day, "welcome in" is an unnecessary preposition. It's _wrong_.

god i missed ilx

im not out to pick a fight, other than the actual entries to the thread as usual, thats what the thread is

but i dont take english lessons from the brits, be sure i wont from the yanks

btw this was the first result for “welcome in”, which I’m not familiar with in the context being complained about at (frankly, weird) length here. Took me a literal second.

Feel like this fella might know more about writing than unperson

Gregory Guy, a professor of sociolinguistics at New York University, says that phenomenon is “called change from below, meaning below the level of conscious awareness. It’s the way most linguistic changes start out.” He continues: “The mechanism for that is considered to be accommodation. If we put two strangers in a room and they talk for 15 minutes, some little things about the way they speak might become more similar.”

god i missed ilx

I have spent decades in nonprofit fundraising... Ask as a noun is ingrained. Sorry.

Has it been around that long? Didn't know that. I'd never heard it used that way until some point within the last decade. It just sounds wrong to me. I asked a question, he gave his answer. "Did you remember to ask him?" "Yes." "What was his give?"