Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

no one has even tried to answer my question of why. why do you think it's ok to peeve down? peeve on powerful people, not peons.

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, March 14, 2024 1:17 PM bookmarkflaglink

Some people want things to be peeved about. It gives them pleasure.

Personally, I think it's not wait staff that are overusing phrases, but diners who are dining out too frequently if they are hearing phrases too often.

xp or word workers working with words too much lol

"welcome in" is so innocuous in a world where we have "mouthfeel", "soft opening of a new fast casual concept", and idk "nomgasm" or whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHYDTJyZ0Co

“Daypart”

I think these objections to certain word choices are not about hating players, or indeed servers, but more about hating the game/the script.

Nah, as someone who works with words all day, "welcome in" is an unnecessary preposition. It's wrong.

― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson)

the fuck is this

I expect "come on in" should be peeved on as twice as annoying since it has twice the unnecessary prepositions as "welcome in"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdT8Tlzto20

"Welcome" is a one-word sentence. "Come" can be a one-word sentence, but that's rare. It usually requires a preposition, i.e. "come in," "come out," or "come on" (whether you're just using it as an intensifier or as "come on [my face]"). This thread is making me question y'all's literacy.

welcome does nothing come doesnt

Let’s be honest

Nah, as someone who works with words all day, "welcome in" is an unnecessary preposition. It's _wrong_.

god i missed ilx

im not out to pick a fight, other than the actual entries to the thread as usual, thats what the thread is

but i dont take english lessons from the brits, be sure i wont from the yanks

btw this was the first result for “welcome in”, which I’m not familiar with in the context being complained about at (frankly, weird) length here. Took me a literal second.

Feel like this fella might know more about writing than unperson

Gregory Guy, a professor of sociolinguistics at New York University, says that phenomenon is “called change from below, meaning below the level of conscious awareness. It’s the way most linguistic changes start out.” He continues: “The mechanism for that is considered to be accommodation. If we put two strangers in a room and they talk for 15 minutes, some little things about the way they speak might become more similar.”

god i missed ilx

I have spent decades in nonprofit fundraising... Ask as a noun is ingrained. Sorry.

Has it been around that long? Didn't know that. I'd never heard it used that way until some point within the last decade. It just sounds wrong to me. I asked a question, he gave his answer. "Did you remember to ask him?" "Yes." "What was his give?"

Pleasure peeving is a novel concept for me. I also don’t buy the “hating the game not the players” explano-excuse. It’s still peeving down.

Also ftr I too spend all day with words and somehow manage to not peeve pedantically.

This thread is making me question y'all's literacy.

so "y'all" is OK but "welcome in" is not, got it

Feel like this fella might know more about writing than unperson

I'll go up against a professor of sociolinguistics in a "writing for an audience of normal humans" contest any time.

LG and now you, hang the (actual) banner

You rang?

Hi!

https://i.postimg.cc/dVHHhPHq/IMG-7172.jpg

xp God I could not have timed that any better 👋🏻

questioning our all's literacy on this terminally moribund text-based Transatlantic/Transoceanic message board! The gloves are off!

also hello in orbit!

hi unperson, I'm here with some friendly unsolicited advice that I often would do well to heed myself: just take the 'W' in your own mind and stop digging the hole any deeper.

For the record, I’m not peeving down at servers. My sister has been working in hospitality for the past 20 years, and she is very good at her job. I am very specifically peeving at hospitality scripts imposed by employers of people like my sister, who I would never blame or moan at for patter I find annoying.

Motion to replace "welcome in" with "come my lady"

Time is passing, I'm asking could this be real

Seems a good time to mention that customers, esp in restaurants have an annoying script that we have to listen to, too. Wait staff don’t actually have much choice in what we say, and we have to say it over and over again so expecting us to come up with novel niceties for each customer is a bit much, and customers actually do have a choice. It’s been 16 yrs since I waited tables but I did it full time for 8 yrs and believe me, you guys are just as annoying and speak in cliches. The number of times I wanted to say “ gee whiz I’ve never heard that one before” why rolling my eyes.

My favorite was old white men asking for “the william” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

I’m waiting tables right now and unfortunately don’t have the protection of time, distance, or being anyone’s sister. Going to assume everyone is quietly seething at me, wish me luck!

Oo-rah is the Marine Corps.

Army dudes say hoo-ah.

(I don't know if the Navy or Air Force have things they' supposed to say. Space Force presumably has "Pew! Pew!" Or "Bleep-blorp.")

I just assumed hoo-ah was a Pacino-ism

I’m assuming perving down on servers is bad, too

I never really thought about this before but it's kind of odd that the unaccommodating, snooty waiter is such a trope. I would think that in most circumstances, the customers with the resources to go out to dinner are more likely to be higher SES than the service worker bringing them their food. I suppose when going out to eat was more of a special occasion, people would save up and go to fancy restaurants where they cultivated a vibe of higher class. But I can't help but think that the trope largely exists as cover for punching down.

I don't think I've heard "welcome in" in the wild, or at least haven't registered it, and it sounds pretty weird to my ears. But that's how language develops! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"What can I get started for you" doesn't aggravate me, and I assume it's used to remind jerks there's a made-to-order process involved, but it does kinda feel like it's trying to disclaim responsibility for the meal? Like "look, I will initiate the process of your food being prepared, but honestly, a lot of this is out of my hands"

Oh fun, nabisco’s back. Hi nabisco! I get your reasoning here but I would prefer a “whaddaya want?” or the traditional “may I take your order?” “What can I get started for you today?” sounds so PR firm, reminds me of the Windows 95 “where do you want to go today?” tagline in their ads

I don’t like “I appreciate you” at all, I would say it to somebody I desire to keep at arm’s length and I take it to mean the same when it is said to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TJ2v9O2iEo

Personally, when I go to a restaurant, I'm mostly there for food, drink and to socialise. Whatever the restaurant staff said or didn't say is completely forgotten by me the instant after its been said. Unless it's an "I piss on your mother's grave" or something, but haven't got that one yet. Ya'll are a bunch of Larry David's I swear

But I also think Larry David is hilarious so please keep this long running skit going

I’m with LL here, the ire that some of you show toward service workers just goes to show that you never were one or forgot what it was like, and in the former case, you can quite literally fuck off, and in the latter case, maybe jog your memory a bit.

Staff should start barking "COME!" like Patrick Stewart instead.

PS I have never ever heard anyone say "welcome in", it doesnt seem that odd in any case, and dont waitstaff usually say "table for 2?" or "do you have a booking" or "please leave without making a scene"?

If only they said "WERK!" then we'd all be happy

If they didn’t want me to make a scene, they shouldn’t have used words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of me

Gonna wear a shirt with a qr-code linking to this thread to all further dining experiences, just so no one has any excuses

Welcome Miami

just please tell me your asks are actionable or we might have to spitball some BPIs to get these deliverables rerouted to a different pillar of excellence entirely

The latest nugget of corporate jargon I have come to be required to accept is referring to an Excel spreadsheet as a "source of truth".

_I have spent decades in nonprofit fundraising... Ask as a noun is ingrained. Sorry._

Has it been around that long? Didn't know that. I'd never heard it used that way until some point within the last decade. It just sounds wrong to me. I asked a question, he gave his answer. "Did you remember to ask him?" "Yes." "What was his give?"

xp i'm sorry i don't believe you

I have no particular feelings about "welcome in" but like Trayce I have literally never heard it. I'm assuming it's American English...

I think these objections to certain word choices are not about hating players, or indeed servers, but more about hating the game/the script.

― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:06 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

100% agree. I do not like the phrase because it sounds very unnatural to my ears. There is absolutely no judgement attached to anyone who uses it for me. I've never even heard it but imagining it said feels off. I didn't see anyone post anything that was negative about customer service workers at all but want to be clear I was just talking about a two word phrase because language things like this are interesting to me and nothing more. I didn't read the article so there might be something there but otherwise I just want to be clear that I wasn't remotely judging servers or any customer service workers.

I dunno, thats reads like something someone judging service workers would say