Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

(I don't know if the Navy or Air Force have things they' supposed to say. Space Force presumably has "Pew! Pew!" Or "Bleep-blorp.")

I just assumed hoo-ah was a Pacino-ism

I’m assuming perving down on servers is bad, too

I never really thought about this before but it's kind of odd that the unaccommodating, snooty waiter is such a trope. I would think that in most circumstances, the customers with the resources to go out to dinner are more likely to be higher SES than the service worker bringing them their food. I suppose when going out to eat was more of a special occasion, people would save up and go to fancy restaurants where they cultivated a vibe of higher class. But I can't help but think that the trope largely exists as cover for punching down.

I don't think I've heard "welcome in" in the wild, or at least haven't registered it, and it sounds pretty weird to my ears. But that's how language develops! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"What can I get started for you" doesn't aggravate me, and I assume it's used to remind jerks there's a made-to-order process involved, but it does kinda feel like it's trying to disclaim responsibility for the meal? Like "look, I will initiate the process of your food being prepared, but honestly, a lot of this is out of my hands"

Oh fun, nabisco’s back. Hi nabisco! I get your reasoning here but I would prefer a “whaddaya want?” or the traditional “may I take your order?” “What can I get started for you today?” sounds so PR firm, reminds me of the Windows 95 “where do you want to go today?” tagline in their ads

I don’t like “I appreciate you” at all, I would say it to somebody I desire to keep at arm’s length and I take it to mean the same when it is said to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TJ2v9O2iEo

Personally, when I go to a restaurant, I'm mostly there for food, drink and to socialise. Whatever the restaurant staff said or didn't say is completely forgotten by me the instant after its been said. Unless it's an "I piss on your mother's grave" or something, but haven't got that one yet. Ya'll are a bunch of Larry David's I swear

But I also think Larry David is hilarious so please keep this long running skit going

I’m with LL here, the ire that some of you show toward service workers just goes to show that you never were one or forgot what it was like, and in the former case, you can quite literally fuck off, and in the latter case, maybe jog your memory a bit.

Staff should start barking "COME!" like Patrick Stewart instead.

PS I have never ever heard anyone say "welcome in", it doesnt seem that odd in any case, and dont waitstaff usually say "table for 2?" or "do you have a booking" or "please leave without making a scene"?

If only they said "WERK!" then we'd all be happy

If they didn’t want me to make a scene, they shouldn’t have used words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of me

Gonna wear a shirt with a qr-code linking to this thread to all further dining experiences, just so no one has any excuses

Welcome Miami

just please tell me your asks are actionable or we might have to spitball some BPIs to get these deliverables rerouted to a different pillar of excellence entirely

The latest nugget of corporate jargon I have come to be required to accept is referring to an Excel spreadsheet as a "source of truth".

_I have spent decades in nonprofit fundraising... Ask as a noun is ingrained. Sorry._

Has it been around that long? Didn't know that. I'd never heard it used that way until some point within the last decade. It just sounds wrong to me. I asked a question, he gave his answer. "Did you remember to ask him?" "Yes." "What was his give?"

xp i'm sorry i don't believe you

I have no particular feelings about "welcome in" but like Trayce I have literally never heard it. I'm assuming it's American English...

I think these objections to certain word choices are not about hating players, or indeed servers, but more about hating the game/the script.

― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:06 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

100% agree. I do not like the phrase because it sounds very unnatural to my ears. There is absolutely no judgement attached to anyone who uses it for me. I've never even heard it but imagining it said feels off. I didn't see anyone post anything that was negative about customer service workers at all but want to be clear I was just talking about a two word phrase because language things like this are interesting to me and nothing more. I didn't read the article so there might be something there but otherwise I just want to be clear that I wasn't remotely judging servers or any customer service workers.

I dunno, thats reads like something someone judging service workers would say

I think living amongst the Australian vocab really immunizes the individual to any qualms about unnatural sayings and the like

current usage of “to eat” for positive super-performance is waaay off to my ear and annoys me

so bad

“that song honks” on the other hand

Pew pew

I think living amongst the Australian vocab really immunizes the individual to any qualms about unnatural sayings and the like

Dont come the raw prawn with me, you chuzwozzer.

current usage of “to eat” for positive super-performance is waaay off to my ear and annoys me

current usage of “to eat” for positive super-performance is waaay off to my ear and annoys me

Eating! That's where I'm a Viking!"

“to eat” is a queer thing?

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.

Thanks, TS.

I love eat/ate/no crumbs comments.

*checks queer etymology for dummies*

Whenever a new piece of slang emerges into the mainstream it's safe to assume it's taken from either aave, queer culture or (more recently, and regrettably) incel culture

A lot of the terms complained about here are terms that do originate from various minority communities and honestly the age difference on ilx is really glaring at these times, not necessarily in terms of “wow ilx is really old” because age doesn’t matter unless you insist on unironically doing the Grandpa Simpson bit (which many of you seem to, fuck knows why) but in terms of how some of you just do not have any familiarity with evolving use of language or slang and it’s everyone else’s problem, not yours.

I like though don’t use “ate/left no crumbs” myself but through a younger friend I am ALL IN on the various uses of cook, e.g:

cook that fraud

he cooked

let him cook

I don’t know particular origins of this but I do know I picked this up off a younger friend and use it constantly now & it rules tbh. Broadening your lexicon, it’s not a bad thing (unless it’s corporate speak tbh)

twitch streamers and their chat also produce a lot of slang. and tiktok of course

I like hearing about ones itt that I haven't actually encountered anywhere (increasingly the case not just for age but for considerably curtailed sm use). I've also been enjoying 'let x cook' which I'm guessing you could trace back over ten years as per Breaking Bad popularity but somehow it feels like it only reached saturation point much more recently.

i get my understanding of most of these from football twitter

its enough, quite enough

with loads of Americans following football teams now it’s really funny to see Americans on social media using classic football terms like “bottle job”, “Citeh” and so on.

Also, they all say “nonce” now. The flattening of regional language facilitated by social media, in this essay I will

My friend mentioned previously texted me re her worries re some Liverpool match(she’s a fan, I’m not) and said “I would almost rather have City score and lose us the title than listen to those bottle job gunners tell us this is their year”.

Like! You were born in Boston! It’s very funny (to me).

still not buying the "hate the game not the player" argument on the basis that separating the speaker from the words they speak in a peeve thread about language use is not possible. it's baked in. suggesting otherwise seems disingenuous at best. more likely no one wants to be seen as a hater of powerless people.

and it’s everyone else’s problem, not yours
otm

had a perfectly decent night at work last night btw and asked people if i could get something started for them with absolute abandon and impunity

nice

"that eats" is just objectively bad, too much crossover with conflicting expressions like "eat shit" or "eat me" etc

"let him cook" is of course immortal at this point

also i think a lot of the appropriation of language from other cultures has to do with us living in a text-heavy environment. much easier to appropriate language in writing than to speak it out loud irl. (to gyac's point)

“I would almost rather have City score and lose us the title than listen to those bottle job gunners gooners tell us this is their year”

fixed

Oh Matt you are not going to like what the term “gooners” means now.

Separating the speaker from the words they speak in a peeve thread about language use is not possible. it's baked in. suggesting otherwise seems disingenuous at best. more likely no one wants to be seen as a hater of powerless people.

I think it really is possible and I resent the implication that anyone saying so actually just hates powerless people. We are literally talking about a two word phrase here. I wasn't even imagining servers saying it when I thought about it - my first scenario was someone saying it to me when welcoming me to their home and it still felt weird. I imagined myself welcoming guests at work because it is part of my role to greet visitors and offer them drinks and I always say either just Welcome! or Welcome to "place of employment". I don't really understand how this has blown up into something bigger than a simple phrase that has supposedly become popular.

lt isn’t possible, you are making bad excuses

That's fine you can think that but I truly believe it is and when I say I think the phrase sounds odd there is no larger meaning to that. At all. This is not about the people who say it and it never was. It's about a stupid phrase and nothing more. Tbc I am one of these powerless people in my job and I grew up in the hospitality industry and was a server for years so if anything I try to be extra respectful with any kinds of customer service ppl.