Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

I've only read some of this (catch-up on all the fun you guys been having later) but isn't stuff like this:

"My name is Earl and I'll be taking care of you tonight."

Phrases that the worker has been coached to say, things they must say otherwise they won't work there?

Whereas a way of communicating in an email, or everyday interaction is a thing that people unthinkingly pick up and start using. They don't have to do that.

So I can understand the annoyance. Being told what to say, and then having someone find that thing they probably might not say as annoying - just adds up to humiliation.

I honestly have no idea whether anyone is "required" to say that. If so, then let's chalk it up as one more example of corporate-speak. If it's freestyling on the part of the speaker, then I'll just say I don't like it. It sounds too, I don't know, intimate and overbearing.

All of that said, this is, like most of the gripes mentioned in this thread, a very minor annoyance in the grand scheme of things.

I mean, I can't imagine running a restaurant and obliging my staff to say something in particular to the staff, but then again, I don't run a restaurant.

*to the customers

xxxpost Oh, there is most definitely "house style" in many office jobs. how many times have examples itt come from things overheard when calling a call center?

For call center employees (which is my industry), the agent greetings, the way they word things, the way they structure calls - this is all meticulously plotted out, usually by people who have never done the job in their lives. In other office jobs, things like work signatures, specific verbiage to use when referring to things in meetings, it might not be scripted, but these are things that are also crafted by rich assholes from above. I had one client project where I basically dreaded leading meetings because I had to tick so many boxes of how the big boss wanted it done, right down to specific words I was not allowed to say, or certain ways I had to refer to things.

that's part of my overarching point, that - for many of us, we are well aware that these sayings are things that come from six figure dorks who have no clue how how to wait tables, bartender, or what customers want, and if I were to be annoyed by anything a server/bartender said on that level, I've usually assumed it's a 'house style' thing and I'm poking fun at the out of touch dorks who pat themselves on the back for these stupid innovations. (generally speaking, though, things I hear in restaurants/bars don't bother me).

I realize not everybody is like that, and some, consciously or subconsciously, do come at it from a place of condescension. and I know that servers often get blamed for things they had nothing to do with - the same thing happens in my industry as well. I think starting from a starting by asking "why do you all hate service workers?" rather than merely asking "hey uh, what's wrong with these sayings? they're innocuous and btw, things I have to say daily" is what kind of enflamed things. I'm sure that'll be called 'tone policing', but I just don't see why the least charitable interpretation is often the one gravitated to the fastest here.

phrases I say by choice and things that I've said on account of my job have appeared itt often, even in the last two weeks - sometimes I've even been defensive about it and asked 'hey what's wrong w/ that?'. I was just taken aback by the escalation to "you hate service workers" and also taking my awful attempt at a restaurant version of A Modest Proposal at face value.

I don't dislike anybody itt and I don't feel good that anybody gets mistreated at their job so...I'll leave it at that.

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deems, our feelings around this issue are happening, and so to have many posters say “but that isn’t what’s happening” can feel like those many posters are saying that our feelings don’t matter. that’s fine, but it still makes me (at least) feel not great.

i also do admit that some of my recent posting in this thread is not wonderful, but seeing as how i have been staring down a tunnel of insolvency for years and a lot of things are coming to a head right now might help to explain some of the resentment and bile in my posts. apologies.

“Separating the speaker from the words they speak in a peeve thread about language use is not possible. it's baked in. suggesting otherwise seems disingenuous at best. more likely no one wants to be seen as a hater of powerless people.”

Yeah this is how I feel. It’s not complaining about random words in the air flying up to you unspoken and unwritten, like unmanned words in space… you’re complaining about the people saying them.

it seems self evident to me but w/e

TS: posters vs posers

Except we have said repeatedly that we are not and it seems self evident to me that what you're claiming is absurd but w/e.

Language how does it work

what even is language.. a way to communicate?

Language is a virus

is having a report in school heavily marked down for poor writing an expression of disdain for the student?

this thread is for words, usages, and phrases people hate. if that's inherently shitting on the people who use these words, then we might as well lock thread as then the thread is just for openly shitting on people.

(I don't think it is, even though I often roll my eyes at this thread, but at this point I think the thread has very little utility and I don't think this discussion is ever going to resolve).

My default after in many cases almost twenty years of interacting with y'all here is to trust a poster's sincerity and not to think the poster is classist, racist, or operating on bad faith.

I think the binary being set up there doesn't quite work, though I agree boiling it down to "I don't like these words in this order" is a little absurd. A word or series of words cannot be objectively annoying; the context, including but not exclusively who's speaking, is clearly vital even if it's not necessarily strictly personal.

imo there's something key missing from this discussion: emotional labour. Including: the emotional labour that service workers must do, the culturally reinforced language used to do that labour, the language workers are explicitly trained to use for emotional labour by an employer, resentment over the perceived insincerity or superfluity of emotional labour on the consumers' part, + resentment over the social expectation that one participate in (possibly) rote or false rituals of hospitality, and the draining and psychologically harmful effects of doing emotional labour.

I use a lot of these “annoying” words at my job, they are honestly helpful in describing things. Like “ask”. So yeah I guess I feel like I’m being told not to use these words because I’m being a dork or something?

The words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of people in this thread tend to be ones that imply some unpleasant pretentiousness on the part of the speaker, as in, they should have just used a plain old word rather than spice things up. Pretentious.

I have used it too because it's the common office language now and it's just what people do. It doesn't make you a dork at all and I don't think anyone is saying not to use them. I hate all the corporate phrases but I'm sure I've used most of them at one point or another. I've just always read those kinds of posts as light heartedly making fun of corporate jargon.

i too have used the very jargon i complain about

i never have

amd i never hope to going forward

I think a bit of the tension is related to performativity and roles. Like, I think the criticism, if it goes further than the words, the furthest it hits is the role of servant, as opposed to the actual people performing the role.

As someone who performs the servant role, I can possibly feel like the criticism also hits me, like if I perhaps played my role better, I wouldn’t be treated with revulsion like a candidate for 3rd worst actor?

Idk I am kinda high on cold medicine rn?

I have an ask: let's be more awesomesauce.

Cool beans!

Let's workshop that a little.

Can I popcorn with awesomesauce? Do I dare?

lol I can't load the whole thread on my phone because it's so long but I'm almost certain I posted cool beans in here many years ago.

Oh wait I just thought of a good office one that I haven't heard in ages. Massage the documents.

Is massage the documents like “massage the numbers”?

I once heard a Georgia judge talking about "massaging the rule."

_I wasn’t talking to you, sarahell, but I also distinctly remember helping you fold chairs and clean up on numerous occasions, so maybe pick on someone else

this boomerish lady says “aces” when things are going well, like “aces, hon”

Lady I work with sometimes

what... happened here >_>

Mystery ghost

__I wasn’t talking to you, sarahell, but I also distinctly remember helping you fold chairs and clean up on numerous occasions, so maybe pick on someone else_


Were you there for the reading where someone bought a bottle of HypnotiQ from the telegraph liquor store and spilled some of it… and it was disturbingly effective at lightening the oil stains on the concrete floor?

there this neighbourhood lady i've always heard about, always in tones of like, "she's amazing", she has three kids and was once a professional opera singer but gave that up to be a full-time mom. she is always organizing yard sales and park clean-ups and during lockdown she created a recipe booklet solicited from neighbourhood people, on their favourite comfort dishes to make. she IS amazing so of course instinctively i kind of hate her. her husband is also an opera singer, has not given up his job, and in fact flies all over the world to sing, and teach, and attend, like.. symposia i guess? anyway somehow i never actually met her until the other day, i was feeling bleary, had struggled through a few meetings, and the lovely Emma B told me she was coming over briefly with her kids. i hear them hacking around downstairs and once my meeting finishes i decide it would be churlish not to at least say hello to the amazing neighbour, so i go downstairs and dote on the kids a little and i see she's wearing a hoodie that says something like "JUST CHOOSE OPERA" and i'm like, great top, you sing, right? and she says no, not anymore, and we talk a little about that, and then she mentions her husband, and i'm like oh, he travels, why, for gigs? and she says yes, for gigs, concerts, teaching, all of that.. she searches for the word..

shizzle

As effective as TSP! … but more expensive

"it has come to our attention..." no need to finish i'll just go kill myself thanks

I thought eat/ate/ate and left no crumbs came from ballroom culture, maybe popularized and mainstream by Rupaul's Drag Race.

I'm not sure the literal origin of it within ballroom (or if this is even correct) except maybe "eat up the runway," which I've heard Dashaun Wesley say. Which maybe became "eat the competition' or just "eat it" or "ate."

And so I am picturing HypnotiQ eating ... the stains off the floor.

My default after in many cases almost twenty years of interacting with y'all here is to trust a poster's sincerity and not to think the poster is classist, racist, or operating on bad faith.

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Bring cool beans back imo.

ha, prev ignorance— as the somewhat self-aware abe simpson of the thread (and yo— hope you get there)— as to why my awesome queer kid uses “eats” as she does is somewhat more informed. that’s mosta what i got, and if you don’t come to this thread ready to be abe simpson, u a fuckin fool be gone.

"I think starting from a starting by asking "why do you all hate service workers?" rather than merely asking "hey uh, what's wrong with these sayings? they're innocuous and btw, things I have to say daily" is what kind of enflamed things. I'm sure that'll be called 'tone policing', but I just don't see why the least charitable interpretation is often the one gravitated to the fastest here."

Some of the ppl that do this stuff feel differently. I've seen people doing service jobs being treated badly or looked at with contempt. This kind of thing just adds to the atmosphere. I'd rather not say anything about it.

Similarly, seen people on the Web complain about interactions with call centre ppl, just being disrespectful and doing performative anger when the shitty service they are paying a shit wage to manage isn't their fault.

What I was trying to get at was … the majority of us have been service workers treated badly and contemptuously. … the only person who seemed to “hate” service workers was the dude Omar went to get pizza with in a post from two days ago?

Maybe omar can help him to sign up si we can finally have our sacrificial lamb

My most deranged Instagram friend returned from social media hiatus and just posted a story ranting about a dude on a work call using the phrase “massage it out” several times when discussing their strategic plan.