Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

In the UK Skins is the millennial generational thingie, although I don't know how well remembered or loved it is.

Oh no it’s Garden State :-(

Fuck, it prob is Garden State at that

Mean Girls more like our Breakfast Club/Clueless

I am technically Gen X, since I was born in 1979, but never thought of myself that way, because almost all of the iconic Gen X cultural signposts were about people older than me who had deep knowledge of watching 1970s TV shows as children. Apart from My So-Called Life, there weren't many depictions of xennials for me to more closely relate to. Still, like Erica, I went to see Reality Bites at age 15 and vibed with it as a movie about people I didn't necessarily identify with but did think were *cool*, in that intriguing aspirational space between peers and parents. I also read the Douglas Coupland novels Generation X and Shampoo Planet around the same time and had similar feelings; they were appealing because they felt cutting-edge and zeitgeisty.

Yet here I am a scant 4 years older and repulsed by Reality Bites.

My comparison to Ethan Hawke that comes to mind for me is my abnormal parasocial relationship with Paul Westerberg. I really felt like he was speaking to me when I was 14-15. As I got older I fell out of that but it lingers as a touch point in that he was my idea of a cool guy I wanted to be in love with. Lol.

lol I also felt like Westerberg was speaking to me when I was 15, tho that was in 1985. (My first grumpy reaction to all the Gen X talk circa 1991 — when I was a grouchy jaded 21-year-old — was, "You do realize the Replacements invented all of this, right?")

lol it's totally Garden State!

donnie darko felt like more of a big millenial moment when i was in high school than garden state

and somehow appropriate that it's set in the 80s instead of the 00s

Really I feel like I'm the Simpsons/Seinfeld generation, if anything. Generation SNES.

i watched garden state tens of times in high school and attempted to revisit it a few years ago and gave up twenty minutes in, unwatchable. so yeah it's the millennial reality bites

agreed that donnie darko made a bigger impact and had a longer tail of influence, because it is actually good

How do we feel about the proliferation of "neuro-spicy"?

I heard this for the first time last week at a librarians' conference, when two young-ish information professionals from Ohio announced and detailed their neurospiciness for us at the start of their presentation: for one it was an auditory thing which meant she might have to ask us to repeat any questions, for the other it was a recall issue which meant she might at times have to refer to her notes. Both of these struck me as fairly standard aspects of giving a presentation, so fairly unspicy...? Neuro-korma maybe. Neither showed any unease at public speaking in a auditorium of 200 people; the presentation was faultless.

if it helps people with mental health issues self actualize then it’s probably good

" could care less" is just a linguistic peeve for me

"Could care less" has a cute twist to it, though. "I couldn't care less" is pretty definitive: "I care nothing about this topic, thus I couldn't care less." In contrast, "I could care less" has a kind of shruggish admission to it: "I suppose I could care less about this topic, now that I think about how little I care about it." Idk, I know it's a malapropism but it's always kinda delighted me. Generally though I quote the Quebecois when I need to express indifference: "J'care pas", lips slack and slightly open, tone extremely monotone, "pas" rhymes with "duh"

I would never in a million years say neuro-spicy, but I'm agnostic on other people using it if they're comfortable with it. To me it has an offputting cutesiness.

i think we need not try to shame entries to the thread else nothing wwould be allowable on such defence and we should try to have standards

neurospicy objectively awful like

For me Reality Bites was …to "ok now yr just pandering."

Neurospicy makes me think of Sapiosexual … it sounds like ur brain is hott?

This Soraya Roberts article on the whole backstory of Reality Bites is really good: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/03/reality-bites-captured-gen-x-25-years-later-helen-childress/583870/

I have never walked out of a movie except Garden State, what loathsome trash, tho I guess many Xers feel that way about Reality Bites. I have an abiding affection for Winona so

I don't think millenials have a Big Chill/Reality Bites type movie, though alarmingly enough it could still happen.

how have we come this far without anyone nominating Juno?

That's High School though when the others are all post college so not sure that really fits.

Had also thought of Can't Hardly Wait but again - HS. I think that and Juno are more equivalent to Pretty in Pink, B Club etc.

Big Chill is very different from Reality Bites imo. The characters in the Big Chill are in their 30s, it's a "Boomers deal with growing up" movie. I can't think of a Gen X equivalent off the top of my head.

kicking and screaming comes to mind, they're 20-somethings though

Well for a time every wright/pegg film & every other Kevin smith film was about men of that cohort finally growing up & putting away childish things? Always rang a bit hollow as the creators immediately went back to playing with their Star Wars figurines

K&S is one of my fave films and prob my personal Big Chill. Thought of it immediately but not quite right either I don't think. Definitely closer.

Yeah K&S is a good call.

I would be up for a Big Chill style Gen X movie now tbh. 50-yr-old Xers dealing with Zoomer kids and Boomer parents, lamenting the death of zine culture and "real" hip-hop, getting high while arguing about what legalization has done to weed ...

OK it sounds insufferable but I would watch a whole TV series.

(get on it, Linklater)

this doesn't fulfill this gen x big chill prompt, but the worst person in the world has a moving depiction of a character who reflects on the end of his very gen x lifestyle

I thought Reality Bites captured the vibe of early 90s Houston surprisingly well, everyone was obsessed with not and inevitably crucified for selling out in so many contexts... it's hilarious now how bad my friends made each other feel for buying tickets to see a band on a national tour, because a multi-state tour meant they were by definition sellouts who couldn't possibly care about their art. Like it was an ideal nobody could really live up to but it was super present, whereas now that entire concept is just... quaint.

Also we liked it because the club scenes were filmed at Catal Huyuk, neé the Axiom!

Oh you mean the scenes where Hey, That's my bike (worst band name) were playing? Glen the skater guy from the Real World LA pushes past WR she's on a payphone in one of those scenes. I haven't watched it in about a decade but I think there's a couple of them in there.

I have never walked out of a movie except Garden State, what loathsome trash, tho I guess many Xers feel that way about Reality Bites. I have an abiding affection for Winona so

This does make me think about how my 40s have been characterized by “life’s too short to sit through bad art for the sake of critical authority “

life’s too short to sit through bad art for the sake of critical authority

i'm gonna hang on to this phrase tyvm

golden escalator

It's such a pathetic detail to constantly bring up re Trump's announcement for 2016. Serve me right for reading a WaPo piece on Bannon (he's read some books!).

“I would be up for a Big Chill style Gen X movie now tbh. 50-yr-old Xers dealing with….”

this generation is too economically weak for anyone to give a fuck, including its members. they dont spend because principle, they can’t spend because low volume

One of the saddest things I heard recently was a recording of Tony Hawk struggling to do an Ollie 540, finally doing it and realizing that was probably his last time ever.

this generation is too economically weak for anyone to give a fuck

The media has kept alive this narrative of 'boomers vs. millennials' and I always like 'hey, we're right over here! what are we, chopped liver?' which I guess we are

We are the chopped liver in a chopped liver sandwich.

St. Elmo's Fire was a big "how young adults cope with adulthood" movie from circa 1985. It has some claim to be a Gen X Big Chill, except it lacks the killer soundtrack

Yeah I did think of that the other day and I think it's close. They're post college and figuring out early adulthood so maybe a bit closer to 80s RB? God I love that movie. The scene where demi is on the phone talking about Arabs making her do coke is unintentionally hilarious and her pink apartment was an 80s dream.

xp: it has a killer soundtrack.

Emilio Estevez and Judd Nelson were high schoolers and post-college in the same year

And Ally Sheedy too

Demi Moore is 61

I like that this whole five-day tangent came out of British people saying 'Gen Zee'.