To me, VFX in movies already jumped the shark of being too realistic for its own good -- the new Dune looks faker and takes you out of the narrative than the matte paintings + puppetry of Lynch's version even though objectively it's much less so.
weird, to me the new Dune was one of the rare recent hollywood movies that had actually good looking VFX.
― silverfish, Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:19 (five months ago) link
I mean we're going to pretty soon reach a point where generated photos or video footage will be indistinguishable from real photos and video. The logical step for a lot of people will be to just not believe anything anymore. We're heading toward a dark age.― silverfish
― silverfish
i mean this is something i already see happening... there's a huge set of people who are in complete denial of reality and have been for a while... "fake news, fake news, fake news", is ai going to make that worse?
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:44 (five months ago) link
here's a question: what can be done about it (another question: what is 'it')
the only answer i've found is to go in the opposite direction: learn or relearn how to do make and appreciate things that are handmade by humans, and spend more time outside. i don't do either of those things nearly as much as i want to, but that is the general direction i would like to face. the glimpses i've seen of computers emulating reality and the human experience increasingly resembling a computer have not been good
― z_tbd, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:03 (five months ago) link
in my childhood i always thought about the rapture and people just disappearing, or hopefully me disappearing, and what it would like to be Left Behind starring Kirk Cameron. the rapture is probably not going to happen, but people effectively integrating themselves with computers - in the day-to-day things we do, work and entertainment, leisure, sleep; people thinking like computers, endlessly optimizing, referring to parts of the mind and body in computer metaphors; or even physically - imagine all the VR/AR stuff actually working and hundreds of millions of people inside of those headsets - is kind of like the tech rapture we no one anticipated or wanted but that we deserve
― z_tbd, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:09 (five months ago) link
this is kind of tongue and cheek and miiiiight sound a little fascist, but you know how various space programs are trying to industrialize the moon? what if everyone that deeply does not want to upload themselves into the metaverse stays here on earth (which rules, for the most part), and then the people who want to be in the matrix can just put their pods on the moon, by the mining facilities?
― z_tbd, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:14 (five months ago) link
re: Dune, the VFX is great but when it's deployed to show you impossible images your brain clocks it as faker than more obviously fake attempts. Arrival had more "tasteful" (though did they really need to CG a beach house?) use of VFX:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGMl_2WUq1M
re: Tech rapture, among other unintended messaging in The Matrix, it probably made the idea of digital steak pretty enticing!
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:21 (five months ago) link
https://www.theflorentine.net/2022/07/11/florentine-steak-now-available-as-an-nft/
― z_tbd, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:22 (five months ago) link
'it' is capitalism
sorry, that's the answer
capitalism
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:33 (five months ago) link
otm
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:50 (five months ago) link
ok google - set my reality headset to 8k no capitalism
― z_tbd, Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:22 (five months ago) link
https://www.404media.co/content/images/2024/04/dl.jpeg
Facebook’s AI Told Parents Group It Has a Gifted, Disabled Child
https://www.404media.co/facebooks-ai-told-parents-group-it-has-a-disabled-child/
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:34 (five months ago) link
Really liked that deep fake. Is she single?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:08 (five months ago) link
― It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 18 April 2024 23:22 (five months ago) link
This by way of saying the cinematography in Dune is quite trad, which I then interpret as “realistic”
― It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 18 April 2024 23:25 (five months ago) link
Really liked that deep fake. Is she single?― xyzzzz__
― xyzzzz__
thought about making a "joke" response of "hey as long as she tells me i'm pretty and doesn't threaten to kill herself, i'd settle for an AI waifu" and now i'm thinking. yeah but what if for real...
not a _girlfriend_ or nothing, but, like... the first AI posed as a therapist which just took whatever the user said and turned it back on them, just asking them questions without processing the answers
like i got BPD, i got super low self-esteem and i think and say some fucked up shit sometimes, and sometimes i gotta, like, tell somebody, which usually doesn't go well. in full-fidelity DBT, one of the things they have as a 24/7 emergency hotline, and it's necessary because i historically got a tendency for everything to be a crisis and need to be talked down, like, a lot. i'm doing better, i'm learning some skills, but i still ain't great at it all the time.
y'all ever try and call a suicide hotline? it's not a great experience. people do what they can but what they can is, like, not really jack shit. all they can really do is listen, and if you start spiraling, a lot of times they call the cops on you. someone put some work into it and some thought you could probably design a mental health AI that isn't gonna replace a professional, but can help people out who don't have access to professionals, which is a lot of us, a lot of the time.
i mean nobody's gonna do that, someone calls an AI bot and then kills themselves there's gonna be some kind of lawsuit, which is why we have the situation we do now, where when someone's suicidal everybody cuts stops talking to them, because they're afraid of being held responsible if someone kills themselves. fantastic system. works great. no downsides.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 19 April 2024 00:09 (five months ago) link
consider life in ai. while you're doing that, i'll be over here, getting ready to take all your stuff /jackh4ndy
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 19 April 2024 02:32 (five months ago) link
they couldnt think of anything good to do with it but just needed to put ai in the app
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:qc6xzgctorfsm35w6i3vdebx/bafkreiflheze67cxc754l6nn3tqoatlnvohjkej7vnljcqlvhunqd2fcsq@jpeg
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:qc6xzgctorfsm35w6i3vdebx/bafkreigiuv66ii5izsecgrb7z357ahvlaceysiisl3cxd5bfqu7wy3lfb4@jpeg
― lag∞n, Sunday, 21 April 2024 01:20 (five months ago) link
Watched Rear Window, The Thing, Alien, The Third Man and the The Taking of Pelham One Two Three over five nights a few weeks ago and got in a funk that movies are just never going to look cool again.
I didn't mind Dune 1 to my surprise but just knowing how much CGI there is in almost any movie or TV series now, I wind up unconsciously watching for it and then being annoyed when I see something bad.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 21 April 2024 05:23 (five months ago) link
okay
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 April 2024 05:24 (five months ago) link
i have to admit i'm addicted to asking chatgpt stuff like this
https://i.imgur.com/1mvOWHP.png
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:41 (five months ago) link
Chat gpt post on ilb
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:02 (five months ago) link
why can't it just admit that it doesn't know the book
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:27 (five months ago) link
its interesting how averaging out all available writing produces the classic bullshitters tone, and the program is also by nature actually bullshitting
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:42 (five months ago) link
mb most writing is bullshitting, i guess a lot of websites are just marketing which is obvs bullshit, but theres a ton of other stuff out there too, im assuming they used books idk, huge sites like reddit or twitter are pretty low quality on average but theyre not majority in the bullshit style
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:46 (five months ago) link
Artificial intelligence has conquered comedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuoFsi2iIi0
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:58 (five months ago) link
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, April 21, 2024 12:23 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Watching Columbo in earnest for the first time and it's kind of amazing how many times I'm really struck by the shots/framing/cinematography, a network procedural from back then is better shot than a lot of oscar shit now
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:27 (five months ago) link
Every episode a new beautiful foyer built on a soundstage
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:35 (five months ago) link
Watching Columbo in earnest for the first time and it's kind of amazing how many times I'm really struck by the shots/framing/cinematography, a network procedural from back then is better shot than a lot of oscar shit now― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
to be fair spielberg literally did direct the first episode
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 19:33 (five months ago) link
Ex-athletic director arrested for framing principal with AI-generated voice
https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/education/k-12-schools/eric-eiswert-ai-audio-baltimore-county-YBJNJAS6OZEE5OQVF5LFOFYN6M/
― rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:48 (five months ago) link
so fucked up and actually if the perp had just taken a little more care it would have been harder to confirm as a deepfake. in a few months, if not now, it is very possible to do this stuff to a degree that will fool a lot of the detection programs. the voices are VERY good
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:08 (five months ago) link
It's really wild. There is basically zero legitimate use case for this, like selling an AI safecracking tool
― rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:14 (five months ago) link
its sad how often peoples search history shows up in indictments
― lag∞n, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:21 (five months ago) link
what we need -- for better movies and for arresting the deepfakers -- is AI Columbo
― mark s, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:40 (five months ago) link
That's right
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:03 (five months ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81j2KZnMw8L._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:10 (five months ago) link
uhh, you get control of ai deepfake to crush the boss, and that's how offensive you make it? it's def unacceptable for a school official (or anyone), but gop congressmen are more offensive on the record.
and then you get busted with a gun at a airport?
ai columbo would know darien was SET UP and find the real criminal.
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 26 April 2024 03:10 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nqrYO5SyGU
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:36 (five months ago) link
I’d go to an all-breadstick restaurant tho
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 26 April 2024 12:03 (five months ago) link
A trip down memory lane to being a picky eater who didn’t like ‘red sauce.’ Every Italian restaurant was a breadstick restaurant.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 26 April 2024 12:04 (five months ago) link
what we need -- for better movies and for arresting the deepfakers -- is AI Columbo― mark s
― mark s
there was that person a couple years ago who did a dead-on columbo impersonation. was a big fan of that.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 26 April 2024 16:29 (five months ago) link
The 42-second voice recording, purportedly of a Maryland high school principal in the midst of a racist rant, derided Black students as “ungrateful” and unable to “test their way out of a paper bag.”“I’m just so sick of the inadequacies of these people,” sneered the voice on the recording, which was posted on social media in January, igniting outrage and prompting the school district to place the principal on leave.But the recording was not what it seemed, according to Baltimore County police. A school employee, investigators charged Thursday, had used artificial-intelligence tools to fabricate the audio with the intention of falsely depicting the principal, Eric Eiswert, as bigoted and antisemitic.The employee, Dazhon Darien, 31, the former athletic director at Pikesville High School, was taken into custody at Baltimore-Washington International Marshall Airport on Thursday as he was about to fly to Houston. Airport security personnel, after detaining Darien because he was carrying a firearm, discovered that a judge had just issued a warrant for his arrest in the AI case.Darien, in a text message, declined to comment Friday and referred questions to an attorney who was not immediately available. He was released on a $5,000 bond at a hearing Thursday where he was charged with disrupting school activities, retaliating against a witness, stalking and theft, according to court records.
The 42-second voice recording, purportedly of a Maryland high school principal in the midst of a racist rant, derided Black students as “ungrateful” and unable to “test their way out of a paper bag.”
“I’m just so sick of the inadequacies of these people,” sneered the voice on the recording, which was posted on social media in January, igniting outrage and prompting the school district to place the principal on leave.
But the recording was not what it seemed, according to Baltimore County police. A school employee, investigators charged Thursday, had used artificial-intelligence tools to fabricate the audio with the intention of falsely depicting the principal, Eric Eiswert, as bigoted and antisemitic.
The employee, Dazhon Darien, 31, the former athletic director at Pikesville High School, was taken into custody at Baltimore-Washington International Marshall Airport on Thursday as he was about to fly to Houston. Airport security personnel, after detaining Darien because he was carrying a firearm, discovered that a judge had just issued a warrant for his arrest in the AI case.
Darien, in a text message, declined to comment Friday and referred questions to an attorney who was not immediately available. He was released on a $5,000 bond at a hearing Thursday where he was charged with disrupting school activities, retaliating against a witness, stalking and theft, according to court records.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/04/26/baltimore-ai-voice-audio-framing-principal/
― z_tbd, Friday, 26 April 2024 20:30 (five months ago) link
I see your AI doomerism and raise you Toby Keith praising Mao Zedong pic.twitter.com/CCQEo7pTED— liz 🇵🇸 (@okaygreatfine) April 26, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 20:59 (five months ago) link
that was fun
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 April 2024 23:06 (five months ago) link
yeah, that's a jam
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 26 April 2024 23:20 (five months ago) link
If only there was a way to confine AI to shitposting.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 27 April 2024 01:06 (five months ago) link
omg. we will never, ever be free until skynet and all networks are destroyed forever, will we?
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Saturday, 27 April 2024 03:25 (five months ago) link
Starting a cult that worships solar flares and prays for a global EMP.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 27 April 2024 04:10 (five months ago) link
Encyclopaedia Metallum/Metal Archives on AI generated music: not allowed and when suspected proof of human origin will be required: https://www.metal-archives.com/news/view/id/296
― StanM, Saturday, 27 April 2024 15:55 (five months ago) link
kinda surprised a metal forum makes no exceptions for music of demonic originthey're in for a conundrum if satan chooses to come back as an AI
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:14 (five months ago) link
I play that "Toby Keith" song every morning.
AI is so good. Destroy all art.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2024 08:00 (four months ago) link