US Politics, May 2024: They Shoot Puppies, Don't They?

xxp yeah, it was one of the greatest moments in presidential debate history

Keep yappin', man

i'm surprised biden would want to debate a traitor and a criminal.

― scott seward, Wednesday, May 15, 2024 10:13 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Biden can't afford to be high-minded when he's behind in the polls.

he's behind in the polls because the average American either doesn't have a sense of how much of a lunatic Trump is or they've just forgotten, also there will be no audience so Trump's shtick isn't going to work, outside of pure ego I don't know why Trump agreed to this

there will be no audience so Trump's shtick isn't going to work

Yeah, this is gonna be like one of those clips where they pull the laugh track off a sitcom and all of a sudden it's a kitchen sink play about a bunch of people who hate each other.

Maybe donny will stroke out on stage that would amuse me

I mean, he's gonna come off like a complete slobbering maniac. Especially if/when the trial doesn't go his way.

I just think it's sad that without an audience we probably won't be getting any of those "me boys" stories.

no audience and mics off when it's not your turn to speak will be a struggle for Trump and pretty SOP for Biden

But he's still allowed to get all up in Biden's airspace like he did with Hillary, right?

no chance they allow him to wander around, also no chance he actually shows up on those terms

then Biden does the debate by himself and it's just a policy speech, no harm in that

xp he'll be chained to the lectern

"They're tying me down so they can get to you."

"as Governor Southwest has told us many times, we are free to move about the country. it's the law! and yet I'm not even free to walk 20 feet from my lectern. What are Dems afraid of? SAD."

Seriously though, how would they prevent him from glowering behind Biden when it's the latter's turn to speak? He'd still find a way to disrupt the proceedings.

Or he'll rap his knuckles over and over on the podium like Gosar who whoever it was that did that in the House.

hopefully GoZER shows up

Trump will agree to no audience, no mic when its not his turn, but he gets to have 5 members of Congress on stage with him shouting talking points throughout.

The thing about this is that everyone (including everyone here!) is gonna be fixated on Trump's mania, but what's really gonna come through on the night is Biden's absolutely withering contempt for Trump.

The reality is that this is not the Trump of 2016 or 2020. Biden knows this. He also knows that by the time the debate happens, his opponent (having not campaigned as much as tradition because of the People’s Court) will be raring at the bit to be before a big (if not visible audience), showing the world live on television how much of a daft, drifting loon he’s become.

Which isn’t to say that Biden won’t stumble or stutter, but you know what I mean.

how would they prevent him from glowering behind Biden

Didn't they use a plexiglass barrier during Covid? Pull that shit out of storage

Trump's conviction and imprisonment means he won't be able to attend either scheduled debate. Here's why that's bad for Joe Biden.

so long as Biden can still pull off that smiling and lighthearted yet condescending vibe like he's humoring a small child, he'll be fine

All Biden has to do is be the Bugs Bunny of the debates

In the video announcing that he'd agree to debate, Biden said that Trump should pick a date — "I hear you're free on Wednesdays." That's the tone he needs to maintain through the whole debate. Just call him a loser and a criminal to his face for two solid hours.

"My predeshesher"

lol omar

"Here's the thing, folks, my opponent doesn't know shit about shit and all he does is lose money and rip people off."

i mean, just the truth is all you really need.

Scott, if he said that on live television he’d automatically pick up at least a half million swing state votes.

https://i.imgur.com/5VL6tFU.png

he's already backing out

is he thanking himself

so if Crooked Joe doesn't accept this date, will Trump debate himself?

"my conditions include a roaring crowd in MAGA hats right behind me, a bare green light bulb under Crooked Joe's chin, and a hot mic to mutter in while he talks..."

Biden should reply that he accepts debating on the Lincoln Project podcast

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/15/us/politics/trump-biden-debate-june.html

Imagine what Biden’s debate prep will be like. Maybe they can get Rahm Emanuel on board for that

same night as the bear season 3 drops . . .

Carmie For President!

Honestly, debating Trump is not entirely unlike Christmas dinner with Jamie Lee Curtis' Bear mom.

lol

Accepting a pardon is a de facto admission of guilt... you can't pardon the innocent

Biden should have pardoned Trump on federal charges, Mitt Romney says

“Had I been President Biden,” Romney said, “when the justice department brought out indictments, I would have immediately pardoned him. I’d have pardoned President Trump.”

“Why? Well, because it makes me, President Biden, the big guy and the person I pardoned the little guy. And, number two, it’s not going to get resolved before the election. It’s not going to have an impact before the election. And, frankly, the country doesn’t want to have to go through prosecuting a former president."

How adorable that he believe this

Believes

Christ almighty go jump in a lake

The Wit and Wisdom of Willard

I mean, given that as Andy points out accepting a pardon requires admitting guilt, it is kind of a good idea from an LBJ-esque "let's make the son of a bitch admit it" angle... and if Biden was gonna do it, he should offer individual pardons for every charge Trump's up on, just pounding one nail after another into his skull.

And, frankly, the country doesn’t want to have to go through prosecuting a former president."

It’s literally the only thing I DO want to go through concerning the former president.

xp Well, Ford's pardon of Nixon was either an 'act of great statesmanship' or a partisan double cross, depending on who you talk to.. but to cross party lines would be a unique situation

Also, we can't guarantee convictions in any of this.. but making him grovel for a pardon would be a sight to behold