US Politics, May 2024: They Shoot Puppies, Don't They?

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I’ve told the story about one of the p25 writers trying to move next door to me, right? He’s the one who wants Sunday to be a mandatory day of rest

Heez, Sunday, 19 May 2024 19:48 (five months ago) link

omg Heez tell us more

by the way, how come none of you told me Marianne Williamson was on the Democratic primary ballot for president? I feel like we've failed to mock this enough.

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 19 May 2024 19:48 (five months ago) link

She’s pro ceasefire in Gaza, not so funny. I voted for her in my state primary (not Maryland) since there wasn’t an “uncommitted” option.

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 19 May 2024 19:54 (five months ago) link

She’s pro ceasefire in Gaza, not so funny. I voted for her in my state primary (not Maryland) since there wasn’t an “uncommitted” option.

And did you feel enfolded in the warm embrace of the Goddess's benevolence after?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 19 May 2024 20:27 (five months ago) link

Project 2025 is real and worrying and of course Trump will try to do many terrible things in a second term, and will succeed at some of them. He can/will do real damage (as obviously he’s already done).

I just think it’s also useful to keep in mind what we know about him as a leader and administrator, and he’s very very bad at those things. He’s inconsistent, incoherent, moody, obsessive, vain and not actually very ideological — he’s not running for president to put any grand scheme or vision into place, he’s running to be important and powerful and get back at all of his enemies (and to stay out of jail). That’s bad! But it’s also a little different than “He’s running so he can do Project 2025.”

And also of course some of that agenda, like the total upending of the federal civil service workforce, has serious legal obstacles and could easily get drug out into the 2028 election cycle, by which point Trump will be even more unpopular than before because people will be SO SICK of him. So, there’s plenty to worry about, but all of the serious fights will be hard and also there aren’t many of them he probably really cares too much about.

re: Williamson, sure she is a stopped clock with some decent positions by default, but the fat-shaming and anti-vax insanity cancel it out for me

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:05 (five months ago) link

She’s not on the ballot in all states. In mine it was just Biden and Dean Phillips.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:05 (five months ago) link

oh interesting, yeah it does not surprise me that she got enough signatures in Oregon

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:05 (five months ago) link

In Montana you can choose Biden, "No Preference," or write someone in. Interestingly, Tester has a primary challenger — Michael Hummert, who I'd never heard of until the ballot landed in my PO box this week. Based on this guide to his positions, I won't be voting for him. TL;DR: balanced budget amendment, term limits, Biden should step down in favor of Harris, we should seal the southern border completely and bring all US troops home from abroad to guard it...

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 19 May 2024 21:29 (five months ago) link

_She’s pro ceasefire in Gaza, not so funny. I voted for her in my state primary (not Maryland) since there wasn’t an “uncommitted” option._

And did you feel enfolded in the warm embrace of the Goddess's benevolence after?


I felt the bony hand of death summoning me, but that’s pretty normal for me.

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 20 May 2024 00:35 (five months ago) link

I'll say it again I really think Trump is gonna have an enthusiasm problem he just straight up does not have a campaign message. in 2016 he at least ran on stuff, stupid stuff maybe but I think he did a good job making those things sound like the biggest problems in the world to his base, which maybe led directly to them developing their own set of made up pet issues, like now with all the wokeness and groomer shit, only problem is Trump never really talks about that stuff, he's always off about windmills and electric cars and how many golf championships he won

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2024 03:10 (five months ago) link

he did a good job making those things sound like the biggest problems in the world to his base

As president Trump learned to delegate. The job of making up dire national problems and selling them to voters now belongs entirely to FOX NEWS, OAN and what's left of Q-ANON. He can't be bothered to talk about much besides how unfairly he's being treated.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 20 May 2024 03:16 (five months ago) link

As president Trump learned to delegate

sorry we're gonna need some actual citations and evidence for this claim

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 20 May 2024 03:18 (five months ago) link

Trump's a racist asshole so the build the wall/immigrant demonization schtick came naturally but his heart definitely isn't in it when he has to cater to the insane evangelical brain worms crew.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 May 2024 03:22 (five months ago) link

yeah see back then he thought it was the biggest problem in the country now the biggest problem in the country is Donald Trump's felony charges

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2024 03:24 (five months ago) link

There's a narrow point of divergence somewhere in the late '90s that gets us here instead of him being an elderly man enjoying weekly drag brunches at Mar-A-Lago.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 May 2024 03:25 (five months ago) link

its crazy there were people saying tabloids like the National Enquirer were the sign of a civilization in decline and they turned out to be 100% right

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2024 03:34 (five months ago) link

trump's whole platform is: biden is destroying the country. i'm the only one who can save it.

its marvel movie shit. do or die. the fate of the country is in his hands. and his fans love that. everything else is just...stuff.

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2024 04:28 (five months ago) link

i mean he says it over and over week in and week out. and they cheer like crazy at the rallies when he does. and kinda fall asleep when he talks about anything else.

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2024 04:30 (five months ago) link

but his heart definitely isn't in it when he has to cater to the insane evangelical brain worms crew.

Not to mention that this time there's a guy running that literally had one.

MarkoP, Monday, 20 May 2024 05:25 (five months ago) link

problem is a lot of time when he talks about Biden its stuff like this

https://i.imgur.com/DmBTd0q.png

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2024 13:28 (five months ago) link

He sure spends a lot of time playing defense... and extraordinarily childish defense, of the "I meant to do that!" school. Real loser shit.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 20 May 2024 13:58 (five months ago) link

Sometimes I think the absolute funniest outcome would be Trump as President and a Dem majority in both houses but he’d probably just have them murdered.

― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, May 19, 2024 1:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

dunno how likely this is (the Senate map ain't exactly great) but I think it's true that, regardless of what happens for President, the GOP is gonna underperform on everything else, as they have ever since 2016. I mean he really has hollowed out the entire GOP, if you're not a sycophant you're basically out of the party now, but it's not like the sycophants are all that popular either, the Trumpier these folks are the worse they do

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2024 17:30 (five months ago) link

I don't know about that. The "Don't Be Gay" Lady has some compelling proposals.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:37 (five months ago) link

xp - I mean, huh, who could have possibly predicted that hitching your entire political party to this dipshit might not be a winning long term strategy. Apparently no one!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:44 (five months ago) link

They didn’t want to! They ran everyone possible against him, it’s just that all the other Republicans made people recoil like they had just opened up a trash bag full of catfish left out in the sun for a week.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 May 2024 19:07 (five months ago) link

also every single one of them made it clear that they loved Donald Trump, that he was the best president of all-time, and that their first act in office would be to pardon him of all crimes, which feels like a bad way to go after the guy you're trying to primary

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2024 19:09 (five months ago) link

he just straight up does not have a campaign message: whatever the democrats/liberals are for, i'm against it!
-public education
-inheritance tax
-universal healthcare
-social security expansion
-climate change mitigation
-equity
-peace
-etc.

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 May 2024 19:56 (five months ago) link

the Groucho Marx platform

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 May 2024 19:57 (five months ago) link

2scoops is a premiere "i've got mine, fuck you" "libertarian" troll imho. the degree to which we know GQP state legislatures can blatantly suppress votes and otherwise cheat on his behalf smacks of authenticity if you're the kind of person who tends to bullshit more often than not. there are millions of rotten wannabe millionaire americans who cheer him on like he's rick flair (down to the fake hair). they're noisy as hell. but i think they're significantly outnumbered by a shyer (some might say "silent") and way more decent majority, i hope is enough

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 May 2024 20:11 (five months ago) link

he just straight up does not have a campaign message: whatever the democrats/liberals are for, i'm against it!
-public education
-inheritance tax
-universal healthcare
-social security expansion
-climate change mitigation
-equity
-peace
-etc.

I think what needs to be included in this understanding is that plenty of progressive policies that Democrats run on in federal races(esp. when there’s a Republican President) wind up not getting enacted either, for multiple reasons. So running on positive policies gets discredited amongst more voters, and negative partisanship becomes the main motivator, which explains why so much national Dem messaging is “but the other guy is worse”

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 20 May 2024 21:52 (five months ago) link

but many would say that the whole reason why many of those progressive policies don’t get passed isn’t always because of conservative obstruction, but because those policies would hurt the pocketbooks of the donor class, and this is what all politicians fear most

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 20 May 2024 23:52 (five months ago) link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-05-21/voters-fear-trump-won-t-leave-if-he-wins-2024-presidential-election reassuring I guess that even the 85 IQ swing voters get this

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 12:27 (five months ago) link

Former President Donald Trump on Monday posted a video on his social media platform that uses a language that appears to mirror that of Nazi Germany, suggesting there will be a "Unified Reich" if he wins the 2024 election.

The phrase "Unified Reich" appears as a part of hypothetical news headlines that announce Trump's hypothetical victory in the 2024 election, with the narrator asking, "What happens after Donald Trump wins?"

Under a big headline that says, "WHAT'S NEXT FOR AMERICA?" there is a smaller headline underneath that appears to read: "INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED DRIVEN BY THE CREATION OF A UNIFIED REICH."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 12:33 (five months ago) link

it makes perfect sense coming from a white nationalist who has the full support of his political party no matter what he says or does including an attempt to take over the country by force.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 12:57 (five months ago) link

oh come on it was a mistake! he doesn't mean to do such things

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 13:06 (five months ago) link

Are we sure he wasn't referring to Robert Reich? And maybe the goal is to get him a sharp, matching suit? (He always seems to be a bit disheveled.)

henry s, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 13:13 (five months ago) link

Robert and Steve Reich, hence the "Unified Reich."

“Ritchie Reich” could be a good laugh line for Biden

(And, yes, dumb jokes are a passable enough way to distract ourselves from how normalized or shrugged or just plain misses this kind of rhetoric has become)

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 13:28 (five months ago) link

I am less and less worried about Robert Kennedy Jr.'s presidential campaign with each passing hour. He just posted this on Twitter, tagging a bunch of stock-picking accounts:

I’m very aware of what the average retail investor has been saying about the need for greater transparency in our markets, stronger regulatory oversight and tougher penalties for market manipulation and criminal behavior. My administration will support the Ape retail rebellion and enact aggressive Wall Street reforms.

To match action with words, I just invested $24,000 in GameStop from the fees I earned from suing Monsanto for their knowingly poisoning our soil and causing cancer. I love the idea of making Monsanto support $GME and the Apes. We need a free and fair market. Let’s punish predatory short selling to the moon. By the way, I ride with you and I’m not leaving.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOHo0SvasAA2HGv.jpg

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:09 (five months ago) link

Lol, is he a Dem plant to pick off low info Qanon wannabe techbros? It seems more likely with every passing day.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:13 (five months ago) link

Am I missing something? WTF is this all about?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:21 (five months ago) link

There might still be some worms in there, is probably WTF it's all about

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:25 (five months ago) link

RFK Jr. be like “I have a modest proposal…”

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:36 (five months ago) link

I saw a lawn sign for RFK.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:54 (five months ago) link

A little voice inside your head said
Don't look back you can never look back

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:56 (five months ago) link

heh it keeps giving don’t it

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:00 (five months ago) link

presumed reply “well, yeah.”

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:01 (five months ago) link


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