tennis is a conversation (subtext: tennis is FUCKING): a thread for luca guadagnino’s CHALLENGERS

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Or having fun! (Not that jacking off and having fun are mutually exclusive.) I enjoyed it in the moment, it was in keeping with the dizziness of the whole thing.

(Not that jacking off and having fun are mutually exclusive.

on ILX I guess they are

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2024 16:31 (one month ago) link

every camera choice must serve a narrative function

ivy., Monday, 20 May 2024 17:03 (one month ago) link

but it's also one of the last shots of a tennis exchange, and the tension has been building over the whole movie to this point, so yeah i'd say it serves a narrative purpose, given that these two are only communicating their totally repressed love for each other through the medium of a tennis ball. why am i arguing with someone who hasn't seen the movie

ivy., Monday, 20 May 2024 17:05 (one month ago) link

the audience i saw this with were audibly enjoying themselves throughout the movie but they really lost it during that scene

ivy., Monday, 20 May 2024 17:12 (one month ago) link

every camera choice must serve a narrative function

YES. That function may be "disruption, because narrative coherence is a bourgeois construct," but every shot in a movie must carry meaning, whether textual or subtextual.

but it's also one of the last shots of a tennis exchange, and the tension has been building over the whole movie to this point, so yeah i'd say it serves a narrative purpose, given that these two are only communicating their totally repressed love for each other through the medium of a tennis ball.

So it's a cumshot? Why didn't you say so? That, I get.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:13 (one month ago) link

Do they love each other? I'm not sure. They'd fuck each other blue, yeah. It's all in the game.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:20 (one month ago) link

yeah i think i meant to type "repressed longing"

ivy., Monday, 20 May 2024 17:26 (one month ago) link

I know this is small fry, but, god, to watch a mainstream movie reeking of sex and whose camera kept leering at totally willing male actors was such a trip.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2024 17:32 (one month ago) link

It is obvious subtext needed to be text, ergo, the final shot of the movie would have to involve one ramming a churro down the other's throat since they left that plot point hanging uh wait.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 May 2024 17:41 (one month ago) link

The churro scene is great because it's so on the nose, it's like a porn movie parody and it's hilarious.

down to the powdered sugar on the nose

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2024 20:19 (one month ago) link


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