Let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-workers

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same boss tells us this morning "hey we updated this curriculum, if you're prepping instructors to teach this, please highlight the changes for your instructors", without indicating in Version Control what changes were made, or even sending us a summary of what was changed.

I haven't supervised a class since January and even then didn't have the courses memorized - the fuck am I supposed to know what changed? also, there was a pretty major deletion of a course that I had to figure out by process of elimination. so I called him out on it in front of the team lol....

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 May 2024 14:46 (four months ago) link

Well, I think today I was given the brightest, most glaring sign that I need to GTFO of my current work situation as fast as humanly possible.

(tl;dr background - our manager says we have a shortage of offices and workstations, but we don't. We have plenty of open spaces, but it would require those in management to do their jobs and enforce remote policies and have hard conversations with recalcitrant employees who should be moved to other floors and buildings but don't want to go.)

Anyway, we had two new interns start in our department today. We've known that we were coming and came up with 3 different solutions as to where they could sit, all were rejected by our manager. So we ended up being told to cram them in with two of us in our existing workstations. Since mine is one of those that are marginally larger than others, I was directed to have one of them move into my cubicle. Fine, annoying, but whatever. Now today I learn that it's "important" that the two interns sit next to each other so they can "collaborate better". Which... isn't wrong. And is in fact why we suggested some of our other seating options. Anyway, now it turns out that BOTH of them are squeezed into my work station.

Apparently the easiest solution for my manager is to triple people up with me rather than, y'know, be a manager and make the hard decisions.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 20:11 (three months ago) link

i got a snide remark from someone today in regards to a polite request I made, so I spent all this time restructuring my follow-up sentence to make sure I kept it as neutral as possible, and in doing so, removed a key word accidentally, the word "because".

the resopnse was supposed to say "I said what I said because", and instead said "I said what I said", making it sound like I was some snotty person on Twitter. I never say "I said what I said", i hate that phrase, ugh.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 May 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

So a weird update on my workstation thing noted above. Turns out it was NOT my manager who made the decision to put them both in my workstation, it was a decision made by a different coworker. I came in the following morning and my manager actually pulled me aside and apologized to me and said that was not his solution and he notified the other coworker that it was unacceptable and another solution needed to be worked out. So at least I'm back to just one additional body in my workstation.

Funny thing is though, I had not yet said a single word to my manager about the seating arrangement when he apologized to me. I was planning to later in the day during my weekly one on one with him, but he brought it up before I did. Anyway, said coworker that made the dumb decision in the first place has made a giant production about not speaking to me since this all happened, because they are a petulant baby and upset that they got (rightfully, imho) told off about a (terrible) decision.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

my boss is a perfectly nice guy, he's not toxic and he's very friendly, but he's not getting any better in the disorganization department.

he scheduled a meeting at 8:45 in the fuckin' morning, which is before my shift even starts, for no reason (and it could have been an email). he bumped up a meeting by 3 hours, which forced me to take a short lunch. he always gets the dates wrong when communicating assignments, leading people being allocated to classes that they're not actually available to teach, which we then have to fix.

he double books people on assignments, he double books reservations in our training environment, and this one particular issue with the training environment, he continues to try and solve by doing the one thing I told him will not solve the problem and pleaded with him to please stop doing ...over and over...for four years. I've even forwarded the same how to document ten or more times.

he's not stupid. and he loves me so it isn't hurting my career, but man, I'm just baffled as to how someone is this sloppy and running a department.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 June 2024 22:06 (three months ago) link

Crown Prince Dickrod of Painfully Sincere Folk Dickdom telling me that garage bands aren't "punk".

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Friday, 7 June 2024 23:44 (three months ago) link

Uh lol wow

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 June 2024 01:12 (three months ago) link

That is serious RONG

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 June 2024 01:12 (three months ago) link

my boss's boss asked me last Thursday if I'd present a quick 5-10 minute presentation during a meeting today. I got this email while I was in the midst of handling an escalated situation in training (basically, some dork accidentally shared private learner feedback w/ the entire class).

somehow, I was the only person in a team of 50+ people left off of the invite (despite the fact that we have an Group set up in outlook to prevent these types of situations). I only found out it was already going on when my boss messaged me when only 10 minutes remained to ask if I was still presenting today.

passive aggressively emailed them the To and CC fields to show I wasn't on it so they can't claim I 'declined' the meeting.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 June 2024 15:57 (three months ago) link

team lead wants us to tell him, and everybody else, what we've been doing. it's like he hasn't been paying attention in morning meetings. feels like homework.

and he's done this by putting a word document on dropbox. so now 10 people have downloaded a copy of this word document and will all try and upload it ahead of the meeting. he could've put this on confluence, or used dropbox paper, noth of which we use and which support concurrent editing by multiple people, but no.

koogs, Monday, 10 June 2024 16:32 (three months ago) link

noth / both

koogs, Monday, 10 June 2024 16:33 (three months ago) link

boss managed to somehow miss an entire training group when he organized our training plans, so we're 21 trainees more than planned and are outside the mandated teacher-student ratio. and it is now too late to fix it.

passive aggressively adding the missing class to his stupid logistics chart felt good.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 June 2024 13:54 (three months ago) link

one of our partner site managers decides to ask our instructor if a specific learner left class, stating she knew she was having pregnancy issues. just blurting out private medical details to strangers.

so cool....now I have to report that this morning.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 June 2024 14:59 (three months ago) link

hey the boss is at it again!

so two weeks ago, fucker triple books me. I'm supervising two nightmare classes that end 6/12, and he inexplicably gives me a certification class that runs 6/11 - 6/13. and on 6/13, I'm supposed to begin prepping 14 instructors to teach 7 classes. Before I can go "what the fuck", he goes "don't worry, I'll back you up".

He didn't do JACK SHIT. He was nowhere to be found the last two days of nightmare class training. I couldn't check in on them because I was leading my own class! so I'm not there to be able to ensure the instructors send the final report to the managers doing the next leg of training, nor to send a warning email to those managers about some of the behavioral issues. and I can't do it the next day because I'm leading certification all day, and the day after that, my first four hours of the day are earmarked for prep sessions.

so of course it slipped my mind. so now my boss comes to me today to ask if I gave any warning to the managers, as they're complaining that the bad trainees are still bad. Despite all of the things that didn't get done due to him triplebooking me, the issues were well-documented in the ticket, which auto-generates emails to everyone on the ticket, which included those managers. There was a week's worth of discussion on the problem children of the class.

manager insinuates this wasn't enough. I remind him that he was literally supposed to be backing me up and he goes silent as if...he didn't even remember he did that to me.

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 June 2024 19:35 (three months ago) link

on top of that, I just remembered...he was the official manager for both classes, and I never should have been the one handling this shit at the level I was anyway. the other manager I'm working with on my other classes always tells me "I got this" when the problem hits a certain level of severity, whereas my boss just leaves it for me.

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 June 2024 20:18 (three months ago) link

we have about 10% of our learners without power due to Hurricane Beryl and the project lead decided to offer to extend training a day to catch up (a great idea, which I supported).

one of my instructors is pissing and moaning about it all day, like boo hoo I'm sorry I put you through the trauma of teaching an extra day, a lot of these learners have water damage, spoiling food, no power, and are sweating their asses off. wanna trade?

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 14:51 (two months ago) link

not to mention - some of the people who were supposed to do the next round of training...are also without power, so they couldn't start their training tomorrow if they wanted to.

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 14:51 (two months ago) link

Was working a new set at the gym today, on my day off from working there, and my co-worker comes up and says, "hey, k is in hospital because he got heatstroke, can you cover his closing tonight."

and i said "heat stroke huh? how did k get heat stroke, i mean it is hot but"

and co-worker responded "he got drunk last night and then didn't drink any water and fainted in (most populous public square in our city)"

i looked at my co-worker deadeyed and said, "no."

i love these kids, even the one who fainted, but jfc i was NOT this level of stupid at their age.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 01:44 (two months ago) link

i realized that was convoluted at the beginning— i was working on some boulder problems that had just gone up on the walls, but i also work at the gym. anyway.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 01:46 (two months ago) link

it’s me, hi, i’m the problem it’s me

brimstead, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 01:55 (two months ago) link

loool tabes

when he comes back to work you should all pitch in & gift him one of those 10 gallon water jugs

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 02:10 (two months ago) link

he's in training to become a pilot, and the other day i asked him what type of planes he wants to fly, and he talked about becoming a bush pilot in Alaska, and i was like "wow that's so dangerous" and he had no idea? he's just not the brightest bulb, but he's very nice and is good to work with.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 02:16 (two months ago) link

I know a guy who does that. He's also a jazz bassist; he was in Jaimie Branch's band.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 02:20 (two months ago) link

Hurricane Beryl issue has lead to six classes becoming a nightmare. not because of the learners still without power, because what the fuck can you do about that, but because the grown adults I'm working with can't simply have a discussion about how to ensure they get caught up when they return. making decisions without getting other people's ok first requiring us to cancel those plans moments later.

and then one asshole makes a comment suggesting maybe some of them are actually no call no show and should be termed and i'm like REALLY, dick? do you not know how many people are without power there?

so the assignment that was stressing me out that was supposed to end yesterday might now extend out another three days. all because my boss decided to give me double the work everybody else.

i really...better get that fucking bonus now.

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 19:45 (two months ago) link

i am just finishing work now. I was supposed to be off 3.5 hours ago. all because of the ineptitude and sloppiness of a number of people and my boss not thinking through that 150 people transitioning out of our class at the same time is actually very hard for one person to handle.

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 July 2024 00:54 (two months ago) link

(best believe I billed that fuckin OT baby)

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 July 2024 00:54 (two months ago) link

I've complained about this particular co-worker in the past but, well, here we go again.

So our department (and not even the whole department, just the half I'm in) has stupid rules for working remote - only allowed one day a week, can't be Monday or Friday. Whatever, annoying and less than ideal, but we've learned to deal with it. I've usually had mine on Thursdays for a variety of reasons, but mostly because it's the one day I for sure don't need to be involved in any in-person meetings. Unfortunately, for a variety of project meetings that need to attend in person, I personally can't ever do Tuesdays remote. So that leaves me only Wednesday and Thursday as options.

This summer myself and said co-worker got randomly assigned the task of overseeing some student interns. Again, totally fine and it's been an interesting experience. When they started our boss told us we couldn't take the same remote day, as one of us would need to be in the office with the interns. Once again, fair enough.

So for the first few weeks of this, we would have a quick conversation about which days we'd take remote and about 75% of the time I switched mine to Wednesday. But there were two occasions where I really needed Thursday and explained this to her. Both times she started crying and made me so uncomfortable that I didn't know what to do and ended up switching mine again (okay, yes, my choice to give in, but I was so uncomfortable I didn't know what else I could do). But this week, she went in to the shared calendar and claimed Thursdays for herself for the rest of the summer. No word to me, no heads up, nothing.

Genuinely not sure how to handle this. Our boss always likes using "taking away remote days" as a threat and I'm fairly confident there's a very large risk he'll just tell us we both don't get remote work days if I bring this concern to him. Past direct conversations with this co-worker have ended with her crying, no matter how lightly or gently I approach the question. (side note: there have been other complaints about this particular co-worker "weaponizing" her tears and she self-reported to us that her last performance review spent a significant amount of time on the frequency with which she cries in the office) I think it's bullshit that she can just unilaterally claim every Thursday and that's just it, but I'm not sure how to resolve it.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 July 2024 14:06 (two months ago) link

tell her you need to take some thursdays and to suck it up

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 12 July 2024 18:37 (two months ago) link

I can't think of a neutral way to ask "is there a way I can ask you normal-ass questions about our work schedule without upsetting you to the point of breaking out in tears?"

on the bright side, maybe she's blocking off Thursdays to finally go to therapy?!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 July 2024 20:22 (two months ago) link

to quote Hootie: let her cry

like just sit for as long as she cries for and then ask her to help you come up with a workable solution

or better yet, take it to HR. that’s what they’re there for!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 July 2024 23:06 (two months ago) link

HR would probably be best. Might be worth it to mention you’re worried about losing promised wfh days as an unfair punishment.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 12 July 2024 23:22 (two months ago) link

lol just join in the crying and watch her freak out

just1n3, Friday, 12 July 2024 23:24 (two months ago) link

That is actually the best idea

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 12 July 2024 23:27 (two months ago) link

So I’m a freelancer and submit invoices after I’m done a project. Normally payment comes through within two months from the different shops I work for.
This absolute dunce sat on two of my invoices for two months and then quit. So three months later I’m not getting responses to my emails asking her what is going on. When I saw on LinkedIn she’d moved into a new job 4 weeks ago (somehow landed a better position despite being the WORST producer I’d ever worked with) i was so fucking if annoyed. Who does that?! Did she know she was going to quit and just not bother doing her job for an entire month?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 12 July 2024 23:33 (two months ago) link

we usually teach customer care agents but they gave us four licensed Series 7 financial advisors to teach, so honestly they probably know more than us about 401k, but it's just to teach our systems.

these boomers act like they've never seen a computer in their life. it's almost hilarious watching them not being able to do rudimentary things.

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 19:21 (two months ago) link

like you're telling me the financial companies you worked for prior to us didn't have a web presence or require you to use computers? seriously?

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 19:21 (two months ago) link

Are they extra proud of not knowing how to use computers, or just a little smug about it?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 21:34 (two months ago) link

they seem like they think it's 1997 and expect us to join them there

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 21:35 (two months ago) link

People used computers for their job in 1997! They were even more complicated then!

Bad Bairns (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 23:31 (two months ago) link

I’ll never have to type a command line again and lovin’ it

Bad Bairns (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 23:32 (two months ago) link

latest edition of 'dumb boss chronicles', so they did a significant redesign of health benefit coursework while we had several classes already going on. standard process is to let them continue with the course curriculum that was in place when class started, and then we deploy the new curriculum separately, and only retire the old one when all of the classes using it have ended.

Instead, they accidentally overwrote all of the existing coursework with the new courses, so trainers who had prepared were completely lost as to why the materials looked different. Then, instead of archiving the activity materials from the old class so we could still get to them, he deleted them all from the database permanently.

every hour I get a new question about something that unexpectedly changed. and boy do I enjoy telling my boss about it when it happens.

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 July 2024 17:54 (two months ago) link

“dumb boss chronicles” would be a sick thread tbh

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 19 July 2024 02:17 (two months ago) link

What was that wonderful thread where somebody recorded all their mad boss’s utterances/singing?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 19 July 2024 09:34 (two months ago) link

A thread for Steve n.'s list of songs that his boss sings

ledge, Friday, 19 July 2024 10:54 (two months ago) link

one of my trainers sent me a mocked up schedule showing which trainer is leading each topic at each time for the next six days.

she is the only trainer in the class.

what in the world was the point.

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 July 2024 14:41 (two months ago) link

there are 8 or so of us on the on-call rota, so we have to do a week roughly every 2 months. but people have been booking monthly slots or slots 3 weeks apart, which is squeezing people out. (it's quite lucrative - the rates have just gone up 250% which is probably why)

koogs, Friday, 19 July 2024 14:55 (two months ago) link

they decided to only align one instructor to this class as there are only four learners. the reason, however, that we usually align 2 is because people get sick, have emergencies, etc, and it stops the class dead every time if you only have one instructor.

as expected, our first instructor got sick three days in and had to be replaced. Then our replacement instructor was only available for one day, so they put another one in. Now that person had system problems and they had to replace THEM, so now four different people have presented in 8 days.

compounding things, today, we had the learners read the material on their own, telling them we'd debrief it, and I told the replacement instructor to find out how far everybody got in the reading, and then find a good place to debrief/pick up from. he instead started from the beginning. it's a four hour lesson and we were supposed to be finished an hour from now.

really feels like babysitting, i swear lol

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 July 2024 14:27 (two months ago) link

Working on a piece about Prohibition and architecture, which entails sekf-financed travel.

I requested a pile of books for my research.

This is what I went to school for.

What I get is "can I get a copy of the musuc you're writing about"?

I'm not a music writer, dumbfuck. No I'm not going to paint a mural for you or write poetry.

What I do on my own time is my business until it's finished. Which may take two years the way things are going. You don't finance my work so fuck off.

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 02:32 (two months ago) link

They have a new media librarian at my old job she is so bad.

A professor asked her to order more 80s "college rock" for his class so her master list is a Replacements and Warren Zevon and Syd Straw anything Peter Buck played on like she looked it up in five minutes. It was like very dad rock corporate frat boy - no British or Australian music or anything.

I said the director has to go the place has gone to shit everyone meaningful is gone, all our hard work down the drain.

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 04:22 (two months ago) link

Thank you ledge!

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 23:22 (two months ago) link


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