Israel/Palestine post 10/7 - follow-on events/thoughts as relate to other countries

Maybe Germany and Israel can make their own union. Sort of like the Odd Couple.

They didn't agree on very much with the League of Nations either iirc.

So ... our local pride organization just pulled out of a Pride Month event about Stonewall that was cosponsored by them and a local group called the Jewish Alliance (basically our local Jewish cultural organization). The Jewish Alliance is pretty much what you'd expect, a fairly squishy-liberal group that mostly organizes events around Jewish holidays and does various kinds of cultural awareness events that are useful in a place with a quite small Jewish population. A local leftist magazine/cooperative took to social media demanding that the pride group pull out of collaborating with the "genocidal" Jewish Alliance, an allegation based on what they said were their past interactions with the group (but I don't know the details of those, they didn't spell them out, and I'm not going to spend hours sorting through their social media posts to see if I can find anything more specific).

The Jewish Alliance issued a press release basically saying their feelings are hurt, they're sorry the pride group pulled out, they've always supported LGBTQ causes (true), and they have publicly decried the suffering in Gaza (true, although as far as I know they haven't called for a ceasefire). Anyway. I'm not taking sides on any of this, I know people involved with both the pride group and the alliance — very fine people on both sides, as they say — and it mostly strikes me as sad in a place where both groups are marginalized and vulnerable.

That’s pretty much anti-Semitism

Yeah. It feels ugly.

On the Iranian election and the gradual collapse..

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n13/azadeh-moaveni/election-in-iran

I don't really know how to find this balance, but it seems like there needs to be some recognition of the fact that many Jewish organizations have historical ties to Israel and that there are real even if deeply flawed reasons that many Jews feel an affinity for Israel, and that a system that places Jews into two buckets of "zionist" (bad) or "anti-zionist" (good) is going to alienate much of the Jewish community and prevent them from participating in other social justice activities. I don't know where you draw the line, but I don't think it should be you're either 100% against the existence of Israel or you are banned.

It’s disturbing when random
Muslims are demanded out of the blue to “denounce terrorism/Hamas” as a prerequisite to anything and it’s equally wrong when American Jews are supposed to answer for the actions of Israel.

There is a deep, catastrophic, intentional stupidity in the Biden White House that is going to tear the entire Middle East apart. pic.twitter.com/jyuun0pi0J

— Séamus Malekafzali (@Seamus_Malek) June 27, 2024

"we reject this logic". oh, ok.

Painful reading, ofc lots that we do know, tracked to one family's story.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/ayelet-waldman-my-father-and-liberal-zionisms-downfall.html?