David Lynch - Classic or Dud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddp012WOO7A&feature=related

I think as a sort of rule, anytime you're at a bar with people, whenever one of them orders a heineken you should be obliged to yell "Heineken! what the fuck is that shit, Pabst Blue Ribbon!" and punch them in the stomach.

Here's to your fuck, Frank.

http://interviewproject.davidlynch.com

those short interviews of U.S small-town-locals are the most humanistic (along with The Straight Story) things he done, and one of his best projects in general imo.
great job.

ok, it's directed by his son - Austin, but still, it's great.like father , like son.

OK, does anyone here watch The Cleveland Show? This past Sunday's episode featured Lynch in an extended voice role as a bartender. When the character showed up, I was like, "Is that guy supposed to be David Lynch?" And the more he talked, I realized it really was him. Utterly weird. It's at Hulu if you want to see it.

Yeah, I watched that last night and had the exact same reaction. Bizarre.

saw blue velvet at a cinema last night with prob the worst audience possible - they just found pretty much everything about it totally hilarious.

there's a fair bit of comedy and as I said elsewhere it works really well as a satire of wholesome 50's Americana but to giggle throughout is coarse

at the Prince Charles? Have a bit of a love/hate relationship with that cinema..

I saw it coincidentally a couple of nights before his death was announced, on dvd. It was fabulous, of course.

giggling i can understand, sure, but not riotous laughing. i couldnt tell if it was film nerds showing how clever clever they were or just stupid people unable to treat it seriously. it was at the pcc yeah. i do like that cinema a lot, but sometimes you get some really fucking weird people there. eg - when i saw funny games one guy (maybe he was there last night too) just kept laughing at some of the most disturbing moments!

laughing at david lynch is not even on the same scale of inhumanity as eating at nandos

What about Chipotle? They opened one up on Charing Cross road recently, and embarrassing as it may be for myself, the food was awes for what is what.

*what it was.

i know nothing about chipotle

not tried that chipotle yet but i plan too soon
hopefully it wont be as bland as the mexian places in angel though

oh I went to one of those! just opposite the station. it wasn't BAD.

Thought it was better than Benito's Hat/El Burrito on Goodge, if you've been there.

My own barbecue slays Nando's anyday, but I do have a soft spot for the sauces on that counter.

Back to Lynch...I watched Twin Peaks s1 the other week. I mean it was good and certainly kooky but far from amazing....worlds worse than say Soprano/Wire/Mad Men class of 00s.

pfft.

david lynch's film in general can be VERY funny -- and yes, this includes blue velvet (and yes, even some of the more disturbing moments). if anything, this is one of the reasons why i've come to love lynch's films so much.

(whether it's reason for people to laugh HYSTERICALLY at anything, though, that's another matter.)

Tad! Sorry I didn't respond to your ILXmail; suffice to say I've gotten off my arse and have stuff in the pipeline now. Hope you're kicking on!

not a problem, acoleuthic :-) glad that you're doing what you're supposed to do ... i kid you sometimes, but you're good people!

now back to david lynch ...

which one should I see next if I've only seen BV and MD and regard both as titanic (esp latter)

definitely get eraserhead. which can be pretty funny too, if you look at it a particular way.

ok, I've heard I'd probably love that one too

Inland Empire is the one I really want to see though

^^I've got that, waiting for the perfect time to watch it though.

double-date imo

i hated that

though like most DL things i might like it more now

though watching BV on a big screen yesterday just made me think id still rather watch lynch direct a film thats made on er film rather than DV

Naomi Watts + Laura Elena Harring double-date

Definitely would've been amazing to watch Inland Empire at the bfi or somewhere with a rapt audience. In fact, I'm surprised they haven't done a Lynch retrospective season yet.

hahahaha you want me to corrupt my principles here dontcha

also what happens when they end up making out with each other

we make a DIY Mulholland Drive 2: North West London

Holloway Rd

actually i think IE might be better suited to watching at home on dvd
actually no, youtube is probably a better medium
watching it at the cinema i think is what made me hate it more

oh wait North West

Uxbridge Rd

Exactly, what is London's Mulholland Drive/Sunset Blvd? Haverstock Hill?

Either way, ILM is one of the most effective procrastination tools on planet Earth. :/

West Cross Way?

Holland Park Ave

^^^Ave can also be Latin for 'hai' and Average, DOUBLE MEANINGS, also Holland is in the initial title

let's do this, where are attractive lesbians, sinister cowboys and expert mimes

Only know NW + around my uni well, dude. There actually is a London in Literature module on my course but I liked the sound of Literary Linguistics more.

Holland Park def has a ring! Nandos is where the creepy man behind the car park lives.

Oh man that cowboy...what was his significance. do you think? Sent a chill up my spine when he appeared in that party sequence near the end.

yeah and where Naomi Watts really works (I always thought the barista in the opening 20 minutes and her either WERE the same actress, or should have been)

xp

Cowboy's significance? To deliver a fucking amazing speech, and to signify Classic Hollywood as a sort of ancient mafia, employing its own grandiose fixers to protect its fantastical domain?

and to signify Classic Hollywood as a sort of ancient mafia, employing its own grandiose fixers to protect its fantastical domain?

yeah this, film probably opens up and deepens some kind of resonance if you've lived or spent a lot of time in Hollywood. It is Wilder's Sunset Blvd's nightmare twin.

I wrote a lot about this interpretation of the film in the Mulholland Drive thread - it definitely is about the idea of 'the classic Hollywood movie' - showing the frail scaffolding of the concept and yet being one

am watching Youtubes of this guy's talks on Transcendental Meditation - is this shit as potent as he makes out?

SB is much worse though and delivers nowhere near the same mystical punch.

I'm interested though in films which present a similar vibe and setting to this, though. How about Robert Altman's Short Cuts?

xpost I'll seek out that thread. MD is definitely a film to savor and grow old with, but one of my own cinephile philosophies is that for every film you watch for a second or third time you could watch something new. Hah maybe that seems quite entry-level but I hate to be the guy who's seen MD 134 times.

I almost always find once is enough, for films. Maybe I'm weird.