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Charlie have a read of this:

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/malware.ars

It might make things clearer.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 6 January 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

What a wonderful name for a website!

KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I CAN'T EVEN GET A VIRTUAL HOST TO WORK BECAUSE THE DNS IS THIS OBSCURE OBLIQUELY LABELLED THING THAT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO MODIFY

If you're *really* stuck, Windows does have a Unix-style /etc/hosts file hidden away in the depths; you might be able to hack that about to get it to work.

(on my work box, which is running XP Pro, it's C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts)

But, as Ed said, you're probably better off going dual-boot and running Apache on Linux.

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 6 January 2005 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I shall bite the bullet and attack my poorly PC later this afternoon. Cheers all.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, caitlin, but I think my problems are deeper than that. I have found several sets of instructions for setting up such things on XP Pro, but I'm running XP Home, which seems to lack certain essential tools for development. In fact, it seems set up specifically to discourage it, but I could just be being paranoid.

Anyway, my Windows machine is an inferior piece of crap, part MMLXXXIV.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Update: I'm able to post comments to my blog JUST FINE at work.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not like this is a big inconvenience, if all it comes down to is I can't post blog comments at home, but all the language used in that pop-up I got makes me worried that I'm at risk of being hacked or something. (My proxy is apparently not "secure.") Please understand, I know very little about this.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

If you have an IP number that is assigned dynamically by your ISP, then I suppose it's possible you've been assigned one that's been blacklisted by someone else. Turning your computer off and restarting should get a new IP assigned (I guess it depends on what DHCP does at the other end...). You can check before and after though:

Start->Run

Type cmd

and type: ipconfig

and you'll get a line that says something like: IP Number: 192.168.0.2

If this changes after a reboot, then you've been assigned a new one (this gets more complicated if you're on some sort of wireless network or internal network).

I wouldn't worry too much about being hacked. Whilst it is possible, the media makes it seem much more likely than it actually is. Taking sensible precautions (firewall for example, not running executables you get in emails) is usually good enough.

KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I did find this, which may explain things somewhat:

Windows only allows IP addresses for the DNS servers, and not FQDNs, unlike UNIX TCP/IP stacks which can use both forms.

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1784110589;fp;2;fpid;1277378924

Well, that's stupid.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

type: ipconfig

and you'll get a line that says something like: IP Number: 192.168.0.2

If this changes after a reboot, then you've been assigned a new one (this gets more complicated if you're on some sort of wireless network or internal network).

You can also try to force them to reassign you by typing: ipconfig /release

(although they may well just reassign you the same address right back)

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks Keith, that makes me feel better. I'll reboot later on tonight at home and see if that fixes it. I guessed that maybe it had to do with someone else in the area.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

(and Caitlin, too: just saw that.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Windows only allows IP addresses for the DNS servers, and not FQDNs, unlike UNIX TCP/IP stacks which can use both forms.

Does being able to do this win you anything? Surely it's not going to work unless you have the FQDN mapped to the IP number in /etc/hosts, which kind of defeats the point unless I'm missing something.

KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Sadly, I think you're right. I guess this basic function of apache will not work on windows. Which is like... stupid. That's what you get with an OS cobbled together from mud and thatch from days of yore.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 6 January 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi Pears, I guess I wasn't slagging Windows; it seems to do the sensible thing. My best guess as to why Unix lets you do this is that BSD TCP/IP pre-dates DNS. Even as late as the mid '90s host files were used to configure IP numbers on a LAN rather than DNS.

Maybe this article will help; it all seems quite possible:

http://www.desilva.biz/apache/virtual.html

KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks for the link! That's exactly what I was looking for. I'll check it out when I get home.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 6 January 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Windows SP2 and/or Norton AntiVirus has disabled the ability to FTP into anything for no fucking reason. Why? Manually telling the firewall stuff to allow SmartFTP to work hasn't done jack. It's like the port was closed off permanently. Anyone else experience this?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 6 January 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know if it's your problem, but diable, uninstall and delete Norton AntiVirus. It's a processor-eating, unreliable monster with security problems.

http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 6 January 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd guess it's the Windows Firewall that SP2 turns on. FTP probably works through IE, but not through custom programs. You can tell it to open ports explicitly but I can't help here; this computer I'm on's firewall is broken and I can't see the dialogs. To allow FTP, you need to open ports 23 and 22.

I think it's on one of the advanced tabs on Control Panel->Windows Firewall.

KeithW (kmw), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Increasingly, people are disallowing FTP access to their servers. I'm using WinSCP3, which works just like the FTP app you're probably using but is supposedly more secure.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Pears, Cygwin could be your your friend, you can run apache 1.3 (not 2) in a linux like environment.

Ed (dali), Friday, 7 January 2005 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link

under windows that is.

Ed (dali), Friday, 7 January 2005 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link

This is gonna sound like a really stoopid and obvious question, but how the hell do I clear my msn search box? I've cleared my history, cookies etc, but that hasn't helped.

Rumpington Lane, Friday, 7 January 2005 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie, you need to run adaware, spybot search and destroy and an updated virus checker, AVG is free, CWShredder may help.
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html

Right. So I downloaded all of the above. The only one that would even run was AVG, but that froze after 10 minutes. The others wouldn't run at all, as the PC did its usual "not enough active memory, please close some applications and try again" trick - EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE OPEN AT ALL.

What I'd really dearly like to do, is reformat my hard drive and start the whole thing from scratch. But I don't have a Windows disc. Any free alternatives to Windows? I've been considering Firefox, but that's just for tinternet, right? How does Linux work?

Ug.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 7 January 2005 08:23 (nineteen years ago) link

If you want to *try* Linux to see if it's worth using instead, get hold of a copy of Knoppix - it's a version of Linux that runs from a CD without installing anything on your computer. It's free, if you can find someone to download it and burn it onto a disc for you.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

OK this is no doubt an utterly lame question - I need to create shedloads of PDFs from Word docs, right? I have Acrobat Pro 6 and Acrobat Distiller. Before my office move, Distiller was set up as a printer so I could just do "print to distiller" and HOORAY there it was. This got lost in the move and now I can't fecking figure out how to put it back. It doesn't appear anywhere in my "big giant list of printers available to me", and I can't seem to add the damned thing anywhere either.

If this sort of fannydangle is anyone's bread and butter - any help gratefully taken.

Starry (hello chickens), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The easiest way to fix that is probably to reinstall Distiller.

(people here have had the same problem)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

lovely idea...but it's a 700mg download! i'm on 56k...that would take several lifetimes.

so, you're right, i'd have to get someone else to d/l it for me, but i couldn't actually *use* it, could i? it's just a demo, right? hmmm.

with every passing day, i realise how little i actually know about computers is in inverse proportion to how much my family thinks i know. gah.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not a demo; it's a full version of Linux, just one that doesn't install anything onto your own disk. You should be able to use it for as much as you could use similar (ie, consumer-oriented) versions of Linux for.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 7 January 2005 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie sounds like you need to bite the bullet and take your PC to a geek who can fix it for you, problems like the ones you are describing are difficult to troubleshoot on internet forums.

I usually hate reccomending people do this due to the amount of unscrupulous PC shops there are out there taking advantage of people lack of knowledge.

A knoppix CD would get you up and running for most things but in the long term having your PC back with an installed OS is reccomended.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 7 January 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Can no-one help me with my piddling little question?

Rumpington Lane, Friday, 7 January 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie:

Boot your PC in Safe mode

Run the aforementioned programs.

Now make sure you have some kind of software firewall that starts up when windows does and restart your machine.

TOMBOT, Friday, 7 January 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

you may also want to check out the list of programs that are marked to run on startup by running msconfig (then go to 'startup' tab) and uncheck those that don't look vital. There's probably a lot of things running on startup hogging your memory.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 January 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, and rumpy, I don't know what you mean by 'clear my MSN search box'...do you have autocomplete or something?

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 January 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

gnoppix is better than knoppix bcause it has the gnome (please say that out loud pronounching everything Guh-no... an Kuh-no...)

Ed (dali), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

you may also want to check out the list of programs that are marked to run on startup by running msconfig (then go to 'startup' tab) and uncheck those that don't look vital. There's probably a lot of things running on startup hogging your memory.

aha! now that sounds more than plausible. it seems to be trying to run various things on start-up, then not being able to find the executable files, and thus getting confused and crotchety (or is that me?).

Now, how do I run msconfig? Where/what is it?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah Teeny...

Rumpington Lane, Friday, 7 January 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Go to the start menu, select "Run...", and type msconfig in the box.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

but I would do tombot's thing first, restart in safe mode and run all your antivirus and antispyware stuff, that'll get rid of a lot of the bad executables that run on startup.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

rumpy - Tools/ Internet Options/ Content/ Autocomplete

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

then pick 'clear forms' and uncheck the 'forms' box, I think that'll do it.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

so i'm trying to rip ghostface's "supreme clientele" for my ipod on my powerbook g4, but the computer won't even recognize the cd when i put it in--it doesn't even mount! any tips?

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 9 January 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie, you need to run adaware, spybot search and destroy and an updated virus checker, AVG is free, CWShredder may help.

Haha I ran AVG on Friday. It found 1,002 - that's ONE THOUSAND AND TWO, folks - viruses on my PC! Mainly trojan horses, but a handful of dialers too.

I've deleted the lot, natch, and done the msconfig thing, and still there are pop-ups on start-up, and problems finding applications (especially the defrag button), and now I've just installed my digicam picture viewer and suddenly AOL won't connect to the interweb anymore! Argh!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 10 January 2005 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

CWShredder did wonders for my filthy hard drive.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 10 January 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Charlie, it sounds like your computer is totally messed up and I suspect you're not going to be able to do yourself all the necessary things to clean it - all you need to do is delete one thing wrongly or not delete one other thing and you're fucked. I second the "take it to an expert" option.

Or - can you justify buying a new one?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 10 January 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Or - can u find someone w/Windows install disks? I did a "format c:" on my parents' hard drive, reinstalled their applications, put their documents back on and it's like night and day. Took about a week to do, mind.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Ta Teeny, tried that but I'm still getting all my searches showing. I've cleared my history and all temporary files, but still... sigh. It's pissing me off, some of my old searches were pretty embarrassing such as 'Dennis from Eastenders' which appears as soon as I put a D in the box.

*Blushes*

Rumpington Lane, Monday, 10 January 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Could somebody tell this Layman the main differences/pros & cons between Airport EXTREME and Aiport EXPRESS?

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Extreme is a normal wireless transmitter for the Internet, that also includes a little port to plug a network printer into. It's capable of very fast connection speeds.

Express is a smaller and slightly slower wireless transmitter, but it does something Extreme doesn't do, it allows you to play music wirelessly into any old stereo (and it plugs right into the electrical socket in your wall).

I think this is right.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Tracer!

What is the difference in speed between the two?

A little backstory-I currently have my Powerbook anchored to cable modem in the corner of my house, but considering long-term costs I am thinking of getting Airport (our only phone jack is in the kitchen) and switching to DSL. I just worry about everything slowing down.

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link


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