Do you like cheesy music. Like REALLY cheesy music

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I'm talking about the stuff they play at cheesy discos, student nights, wedding receptions. The Time Warp, Living on a Prayer, YMCA, Dancing Queen, the Commitments soundtrack etc. etc.

I was forcibly exposed to a lot of this at university and now I have a morbid hatred of Mustang Sally, New York New York et al. Yet a lot of people love all this stuff. Do you?

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you hate fun, dog latin?

robster (robster), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. I've said it before "Brown-Eyed Girl" is the worst song ever because:

1. "Do you remember when we used to sing "shalalalalalalalalalalala lalala lala oh yeh?" is the laziest lyric ever.

2. How many girls in this world have got brown-eyes huh? Probably squillions! He may as well have called the song "Girl With Feet" or something equally roundabout.

3. Brown-eye?! My days!

4. The song sucks and the riff is annoying.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

And I like Shiny Happy People so there.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

don't be a comedian.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i like it in moderation.

every now and then when i'm alone at home i'd put all of those on and sing along.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. I've said it before "Brown-Eyed Girl" is the worst song ever because:
1. "Do you remember when we used to sing "shalalalalalalalalalalala lalala lala oh yeh?" is the laziest lyric ever.
2. How many girls in this world have got brown-eyes huh? Probably squillions! He may as well have called the song "Girl With Feet" or something equally roundabout.
3. Brown-eye?! My days!
4. The song sucks and the riff is annoying.

WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF

that was the most OFF the money comment ever!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

why?

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was accurate and sassy

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

1. dude, listen to the lovely harmony in the singing of lalalalala!!! the beatles have songs that go "lalalallala" (but then you might hate them too)
2. but it's not just "a brown eyed girl!" you're "MY brown eyed girl"
3. don't understand.
4. the songs rules and the riff is fantastic, cor, and the tiny bass solo! fuck this song is genius!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

But is it the camp and the irony of it all that draws people to it or do they genuinely like the songs? Every week for three years I'd be dragged along to some cheesy campus disco and every time they played Jump Around or Carwash there'd be surprised woops of joy as if the students hadn't heard fucking Come On Eileen every time they went out (and it was the same people every night. Essex is a relatively small Uni).

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

it's crap, why did he leave soul behind? why did he start singing like he was shouting across a pub?

this song needs locking in a vault along with sodding American pie and all the other songs DL mentions which are just shitty chances for wacky zany types to show just how wonderfully bubbly they can be, the utter utter tw@ts

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

1. It's a horrible "harmony" that's spat out onto the floor like a literature student who's had too much Carling.
2. Saying "You're my brown-eye girl" is like saying "Girl With Feet, You're Mine".
3. Think about the connotations of "brown-eye" for a moment Ken C - I know you can do it.
4. The song blows and the bass riff is ripped off of Dock of the Bay.

Thus I win!

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i think they're genuinely good songs. it was what popular music was like in their days. if it were released now yeah it probably won't sell but it doesn't mean that the songs were rubbish.

it's just not what songs are like nowadays

of course there'll be people dancing for joy when carwash/jump around/etc. comes on, they're famililar with it, they're having a good time, they want to dance.

it's like when some indie kids hears The Smiths or pixies something at an indie disco they go nuts. wouldn't you think wtf?

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Porkpie, you are a God amongst men.
American Pie is probably the third worst of the lot just under Mustang Sally and Brown-Eye Girl.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Original or Madonna?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Dancing Queen, YMCA and Brown Eyed Girl are okay. American Pie is hell.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you ever been sat in a pub (in this case Pumphreys in Bournemouth) while some idiot tosser explains to you that american pie is a great song BECAUSE IT HAS ACTIONS YOU CAN DO and then proceeds to stand in front of you and do them, and you want to kill him, but this pub, awful as it may be, is across the road from your flat and you don't want to be barred, but there is so much glass around and this idiot wouldn't really be missed WOULD HE????????

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Dancing Queen.

YMCA is good coz it has actions.

Brown Eyed Girl is horrible.

American Pie is overlong and ppl *will* sing along with it, won't they? But the lyrics are interesting and well thought out. No Porkpie I had no idea it had actions!

What do ppl think of Hi Ho Silver Lining?

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate the use of the word cheese to describe music and I think its to ILX's credit that the word very rarely gets used round these parts. Some of these records are great, great pop songs - look at Baby One More Time, Like A Prayer, I Want You Back. I thought the presumption that people only like this stuff ironically was what we were supposed to be railing against?

I never liked Abba, though.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh, but Ken C - it's not as if the people dancing to it were even around when it came out is it? As Porkpie says, these affairs do really seem like a big facade for really boring people to pretend they're interesting because they're going loopy to some terrible hit that everyone hated even when it came out (before they were born).

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd rather use other Abba songs please, but Dancing Queen is OK. YMCA is dull.

Oh dear Chris. That doesn't sound like the best fun ever. Surely a surreptitious kick in the nuts 'oops sorry' would have been the way to go.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone doing actions to songs will be shot when I am world leader

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like mustang sally.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

world leader of the planet Curmudgeonia

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

YMCA is terrible as well, although the sight of a room fulled of beered up Ben Sherman boys singing along can be amusing.

None of these records approach the sheer awfulness of Kung Fu Fighting though. One of the good things about the recent revival in genuinely good chart pop is that its helping to sweep away stuff like this from the nation's provincial clubs and student discos.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

we can carry on forever

1. It's a great harmony that's as sweet as kissing a pretty literature student after a couple of glasses of wine.
2. Saying "You're my brown-eye girl" is like saying "Girl With Feet, You're Mine". but it doesn't sound quite as good though? i mean we're talking poetry here.
3. so being able to make an innuendo out of two words in the song makes it shit?!?!?!??!?!!?! wtf?!??!?!?!?!?!?1
4. The song rocks and the way the bass riff is ripped off of Dock of the Bay is like how Zombie Nation's riff was ripped off from Beethovan's 5th Symphony i.e. they're totally different.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha Brown Eyed Girl has just come on in the office. It is pretty lousy.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like Hi Ho Silver Lining - but this is partly because I always think of Coogan's Gareth Cheeseman character dancing boisterously to it at a conference disco

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like 'Make Me SMile (Come Up And See Me)'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The trouble is, at any mainstream event like a wedding or a student disco, there is immense pressure on the DJ to play floorfillers that everyone knows. Through a mixture of chart suceess when they came out, continued massive radio airplay and some kind of cultural context (I'll come back to this later) these songs have worked their way into ppl's consciousness (even some high court judges', I'll bet) almost universally. The DJ at a major mainstream event doesn't dare take a chance with things which are more obscure, even if they are really dancey and obscure for fear of financial ruin and everyone slagging him or her off for not playing the songs they know. Even if this isn't going to happen or is unlikely to happen the DJ still is still under this pressure.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

btw this thread is giving me lots of good ideas on what to play at the next Club FT - thanks!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't you fucking dare...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this thread is about (in my experience) the double-header of brown eyed girl and stuck in the middle with you, every night, and, yes, the whoops of "surprise" and enthusiasm. I have experienced it and, yes, it can be funny and depressing but it isn't about the songs, is it?

RJG (RJG), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

YMCA = camp
Brown Eyed Girl = Classic
Dancing Queen = camp classic.

There is, however, no excuse for ever wanting to hear American Pie in any incarnation again.

Is it overplay? I think it may well be. On my MP3CD is Ballroom Blitz = just as campy, fun-loving and nonsence-filled as the above, just hasn't been played to death. Oui?

(xpost)

Hi Ho Silver Lining I like just for the solo - I love it when guitarists play so far within themslves that you think they've forgotten hoe to play for a bit.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"Cheese" is what these nights describe themselves as and it is a universally accepted term to describe "music that is shit but people love because it's so shit". What pissed me off is that at our university there were more of these "so shit it's good" nights than "just good" nights.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh, but Ken C - it's not as if the people dancing to it were even around when it came out is it? As Porkpie says, these affairs do really seem like a big facade for really boring people to pretend they're interesting because they're going loopy to some terrible hit that everyone hated even when it came out (before they were born).

i have no idea whether everyone hated these hits when it came out. but the point is that they have been made, some of them are good and it's a crime to dance to songs before your time??????

jesus! i apologise now for ever having danced at any indie clubs and that how does it feel to be loved place. gosh. i'm lucky i guess i was alive at least when the smiths were around, which makes it ok to dance to them still.. i never listened to them when i was seven years old though.

do people really dance to crappy cheesy songs to pretend that they're INTERESTING?!?!?!?!?!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Where I grew up it just seemed that a lot of people were just accepting that these were the sort of songs you were SUPPOSED to hear at parties and have FUN to...my best friend would always be of the 'but it's not a party without...' - i just rolled my eyes and sighed internally.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken:

1. More like a drunken snog with a literature student after she collapsed on the floor and was "a little bit sick".
2. We're not talking poetry if the chorus goes "shananananananananannana oh yeh".
3. All I think about when I hear this song is bojmir backwards.
4. What is better: Zombie Nation or Beethoven's Fifth (which has been ripped to death anyway)

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i do feel sorry for porkypie though, i mean it takes some nutter to randomly show people how to do the actions for american pie. obv.

so i understand his hatred for the song.

but hating people merely dancing to it? talk about spoiling a party!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

what I find quite interesting is that the stuff which was "just good" when I was at uni is now played as part of an indie megamix which is every bit as tedious as many of the songs mentioned upthread. There is a club nite here in Oxford called Transmission where they will play Step On followed by The Only One I Know followed by Unbelievable followed by Fools Gold and have been doing so for the past ten years, week in week out every Saturday night. This suggests that it is a case of familiarity breeding contempt no matter what kind of music it is.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus songs with actions are guaranteed to be shit.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh the way hatred spills over from just hating the song to hating other people who like the song is interesting...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

1. More like a semi-drunken snog with the gorgeous literature student with eyes that are brown who is still sober everyone else had collapsed on the floor and was "a little bit sick".
2. We're not talking poetry if the chorus goes "shananananananananannana oh yeh". well damn a song has a bit that goes lalalallalalala it must be shit!!! the logic in this is dumb.
3. All I think about when I hear this song is bojmir backwards. each to their own i guess!! do you also think shiny happy people is actually about shiny erect penises??!??!
4. What is better: Zombie Nation or Beethoven's Fifth (which has been ripped to death anyway) i think we're losing focus on this. they both have their merits obv.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm actually imagining some random nutter grabbing hold of Porkpie's arms (prolly removing one of them from his pint in the process) and forcibly moving them into the appropriate positions to do the actions for American Pie until he explodes in expletive ridden rage and sends the offending person crashing to the floor!

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh the way hatred spills over from just hating the song to hating other people who like the song is interesting...

I'm saying: hating the people who like the song spills over, into hating the song.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

YMCA is good coz it has actions.

Maybe the good people of ILX can clear this up... when exactly did these actions appear? I don't remember them from the time, and having watched the video for YMCA only a couple of weeks ago while flicking through satellite music channels, they don't appear in the promotional material either...

So who invented them? Did the Village People do them on TotP (or US equivalent)? The first time I saw anybody doing them, that I can remember, was in Wayne's World.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

they were doing them l-o-o-n-g before Waynes World, although iirc correctly the Village People themselves, in their film Don't Stop the Music, only do the Y and then revert to just dancing and it was just ppl dancing to the song in discos who extrapolated by making the other letters as well. It's a long time since I've seen the film tho.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I had, like, no idea that "Brown Eyed Girl" and "Mustang Sally" are considered cheese. I mean, I love most of the other songs mentioned just as much or even more than those two, but I know that many ppl see, say, "Living On A Prayer" as cheese. But "Brown Eyed Girl" and "Mustang Sally" are pillars of the rockist conventional taste's canon!! I mean, one's by yer Dark Hippie Genius, the other's by your Legendary 60's Soul Singer.

At any rate, considering what the ppl dog latin talks about dance to ironically, I'd think having them put on music they actually think is good could only lead to disaster.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

1. You can have the fucking literature student, she's a moose anyway. You've had too many screwdrivers mate. I had a girlfriend once who when this song came on said to me "I'm your Brown-Eyed-Girl". We didn't last long.

2. When she's wiped the bits of carrot from her mouth, ask your literature student about poetry. Ask her if "SHAALALLAALALYAlaylalyAlaylaylaylyaAuylayualyAHALAAHAHAAUUAHAGAGAHHAGAH" is poetry? Then reply, "because love, whatever it is you vomited up all over the carpet just now - is infinitely more poetic than Van Morrison's pub-brawl bleating.

3. Shiny Erect Penises? Whatever dude! Strange-o.

4. Yes we are losing out on this one. I win ;-)

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

TO MEATLOAF.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ornage

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i can never type ornage

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve are you trying to make me feel better for my continued use of chessy instead of cheesy? Thanks for that if you are!

jel -- (jel), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

This is where I say that "Do the Tighten Up (Pts. 1 & 2)" is godlike. Archie Bell for President and the Drells for shadow cabinet. But it's cheesy!

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

YMO's cover of that song is godlike.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Where do we stand on Journey's "Anyway You Want It".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha that was supposed to be a question

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I stand on it with metal spikes and a lot of stomping.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 13 August 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the good people of ILX can clear this up... when exactly did these actions appear? I don't remember them from the time, and having watched the video for YMCA only a couple of weeks ago while flicking through satellite music channels, they don't appear in the promotional material either...

So who invented them? Did the Village People do them on TotP (or US equivalent)? The first time I saw anybody doing them, that I can remember, was in Wayne's World.

I scrolled down and scanned the rest of the thread to determine if this question had been properly answered before actually answering it. From what I've heard (and this story was also related by one of the members of the Village People), the audience on "American Bandstand" (which WAS a bit of an American ToTP) made up the Y-M-C-A arm routine, which because of AB's popularity caused the routine to take off throughout the country.

And no, before you ask, I don't particularly care for the song OR the routine, though if I'm bored thoroughly enough at some reception dance or another and just want to do SOMETHING, I can be compelled to look as though I'm actually enjoying it.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Some more points I need to bring up/respond to.

1.  "American Pie" always sounded to me like the worst kind of Godfearing Moral Majority nonsense - all that stuff in the second half about "fire is the devil's only friend" etc. etc. Is Don McLean a Republican? Wouldn't surprise me.

Ha ha ha ha ha. I guess this illustrates very clearly how much of a divide there must be between the US and the UK. The way *I* see "American Pie" is that it's clearly a very strum-a-strum-strum hippie anthem a group of individuals might sing around a campfire set up in the middle of some commune somewhere. As for Don McLean -- if he were a dedicated Republican, he wouldn't have made the anti-war comments he made toward the beginning of 2003.

2.  I think I'll go to my grave liking the song "Brown-Eyed Girl". I guess that's because that was a song I quite liked when I was younger and I never really stop liking a song.

3.  When I think of The Committments, I think of their version of "Try a Little Tenderness", which I thought was actually really good. I didn't think much of their "Mustang Sally", though that was partly because I've NEVER really thought much about "Mustang Sally" -- have always thought of it as a bit cringeworthy. But "Try a Little Tenderness" -- wow.

4.  I have to say I never want to hear Billie Jean again.

Amen, Ronan. I personally could DEFINITELY live with never having to hear another Michael Jackson song ever again in my life. Dear Lord. (My mom LOVES MJ's stuff, though. Grrrr.)

5.  Livin On A Prayer is good cheese, too powerful to be bad, too overblown to take seriously, i love it all the same

Argh, stevem, I hate to say this, but I think you've made a good point. Though I would LIKE to think the only cheesy '80s hard rock I'd like enough to actually own ALBUMS of or from is the kind performed by Def Leppard, whom I actually like.

6.  This is where I say that "Do the Tighten Up (Pts. 1 & 2)" is godlike. Archie Bell for President and the Drells for shadow cabinet. But it's cheesy!

Amen and aww, that was one of the songs my dad loved!

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I basically agree with everything you said dog latin BUT i also feel obliged to say that maybe this attitude is a result of record companies encouraging the idea that it's clever to have the newest, the latest, most original etc, cos the idea of having a small canon of core songs does have the advantage of creating a bond/shared language/etc, just in the same way that all Victorians had supposedly read 'the 50 books' so dances in the 30s (or whenever) used to apparently all, always end with 'Goodnight Sweetheart', in that case the song is something more than just another song, it's like a door having a house, it's part of a structure bla bla bla.

maryann (maryann), Saturday, 14 August 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

doors are rarely structural.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 14 August 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i am selective about my cheesey music. i hate a lot of that horrible movie-soundtrack revival shit like fucking "build me up buttercup" and "stuck in the middle with you". but don't be talking bad about living on a prayer.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 14 August 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

it seems like all music i like is cheesy because of the way i like it. i'm a cheesy-ass emotional girl and i bring my cheese to works of god-inspired serious genius, thus reducing it to cheesiness. or, conversely, my cheese elevates hack bullshit. hope this helps. i'm drunk, by the way.

jewelly (jewelly), Saturday, 14 August 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

[everyone is popping out of the woodwork.]

i don't go to discos or any fun places so now i really want to hear billie jean. twist and shout isn't bad.

youn, Saturday, 14 August 2004 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

If ILX has one of those "anarchy discos" (whatever it is is where everyone brings three songs) you're getting prog bands doing misguided disco and a selection of fine Jeff Lynne productions (same diff really)

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 14 August 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

no description of chessy music is complete without a mention of Murray Head.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 14 August 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

sometimes i wish they played kiss me deadly.

Anytime you want to worship at the altar of Lita Ford, call me, yo.

Je4nne Ć’ury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 14 August 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Any Way You Want It is one of the finest songs ever written, I put it up there with Rainbow's "Since You Been Gone"

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

(also, I've had the advantage of DJing after other people who are playing far too obscure stuff, so I can be the populist hero by comparison)

-- Alba

This happened to me. I said I would DJ at my friends birthday party and him and all his producer/ muso mates had been playing breakbeat and dark garage all night. I played a Madonna single and Gary Numan, and people danced. I was happy, but I did apologise for "weddinging" his birthday party.

Anna (Anna), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I like David Lee Roth.

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I have a fictional crush on Eddie Van Halen, circa 1983.

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I am pleased. Diamond Dave is the bees knees.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I really need cheese defined for me. Currently I am not sure whether I like cheesy music or not (I assume most would say I do).

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

As dog latin said, I think for these purposes it mean music often played at office parties, student nights and wedding receptions.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 14 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't "Sloop John B" like the ultimate student party song? hmmm.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe in theory, but I've never heard it at a student party.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He's with his grandfather - how much of an ultimate party can it be?

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Colette is wise: the problem is the limited canon of big-social-event music not its existence.

But Maryann is also wise, though if we were to have music to structure our lives I'd prefer Van Morrison not to be involved.

The trick is to actually like the stuff you play, and also to like seeing people dancing. The more difficult trick is to play the thing that people know, but didn't know they needed to hear.

I have been (provisionally) asked to DJ at a wedding and a 40th birthday party recently - which made me very proud.

Tom E, Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh it's Tom E. All our grandfathers!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it possible that the idea of trying to play the songs "people know, but didn't know they needed to hear" is at the root of this phenomenon to begin with? Hasn't it become a great pantomime - the 'surprised' whoops etc.? Perhaps DJs should let go of this idea a little because sometimes it's better to be pleasantly surprised by an unfamiliar song that you didn't know you needed to hear.

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

music often played at office parties, student nights and wedding receptions.

well if popularity = cheese than yeah I guess I like some.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but there's popular as in what people listen to at home or what's in the charts now, and then there's a special breed of song that comes out for these occasions.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually only listen to these sort of songs at home, as I don't very often listen to music socially. Oh dear.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Jel is the exception to every rule.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 14 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't "Sloop John B" like the ultimate student party song? hmmm.

holy shit, that's weird. i had a dream last night that i was in a log cabin bar with a bunch of college kids going nuts because missippi state had won the whatever bowl, and sloop john b came over the pa.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 14 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

And then your grandfather woke you up and said "play something we know."

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 14 August 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

he never liked any music, as far as i can recall.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 14 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd only dance to 'Sloop John B' if it was the Culture Cruncher version

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't 'brown eyed girl' released before 'dock of the bay'?

Michael Dubsky, Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

About "Space Cowboy" up above and all that:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_065.html

Revelations as to the Pompitous!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
Holy smokes. This thread is long as hell, and in all the hectoring of Brown Eyed Girl (a song I really don't like, by the way), nobody has acknowledged that she's a brown-eyed girl because that's a euphemism for brown-skinned? a la "Brown Eyed Handsome Man"? Again, I don't like that song b/c I find it annoyingly chirpy, but at least recognize!

Also, I feel so much pity/sympathy for those of you for whom Mustang Sally means The Commitments -- that has to be a horrible way to live. Hopefully you can be open to the possibility that the original version and the Wilson Pickett version are amazing...but if not, then I capitulate.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

"Mustang Sally" has always meant Buddy Guy for me.

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

"Mustang Sally" has always meant, change the station to me.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

"Mustang Sally" has always meant change the station to me.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

F*** I knew that wasn't going to work. Ruined.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

Who else loves the the song "I've been thinking about you" with its falsetto vocals, and its intermittent "she-bow-bow" eruptions, and its
early nineties soft danceability, and its three dollar video, and its bad surf guitar solo. I love it!

Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

i really like "do ya think im sexy?"

Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I like the RevCo version bettah.

happy fun ball (kenan), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)


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