Why are "pocket pussies" considered so pathetic while dildos aren't?

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― Fleshlight for president, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i did not start this thread.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

FEED ME, SEYMOUR!

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I've always complained about this double-standard. But I stll have never bought or used a pocket pussy. Cause then I'd be a creepy loser!
I mean even more of one.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

because men are caveman capable of getting pussy anywhere anytime haven't you heard? it's demeaning for men to seek sexual pleasure by other means.

(actually i think dildos are still considered similarly demeaning by many. also i don't imagine pocket pussies work very well. not that i've tried one.)

― amateur!!st, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

― amateur!!st, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

My all time favorite reaction to the fleshlight was Tep's when Kenan posted it: Kenan, what the hell did you do to your flashlight?

-- Tep (te...), August 5th, 2003.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe because dildos/vibrators are commonly used by couples as well?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the technology is still not all it could be. While with dildos/vibrators you have a sort of simple elegance and engineering perfection that just makes good horse sense. There is a certain "pathetic" quality to the travel-vagina that needs working on. Some brave genius who probably isn't even born yet will no doubt unlock the mystery with a key not yet forged in the fires of innovation.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe because we don't want to in any way discourage women from being as sexual as possible?

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it has something to do with pocket pussies being percieved as degrading to women, where dildos are not seen as being degrading to men. Men can take that heat, is the assumption, I guess. Pocket pussies, on the other hand, are one icky step away from blow up dolls.

Also, it's very easy for men to masturbate, while women often require more eqipment, just because their stuff is so much more complicated. So a man using something other than his hand is taking an totally unnecessary step, while a woman using a dildo is just masturbating.

― Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Because sand can get in them?

― Nemo (JND), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The fleshlight isn't even the most demeaning male-sexual product. I think that goes to the vaginas modelled on a specific porn-star.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.johnnyhorn.co.uk/prodimages/200/5543-01-BX.jpg

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

how do you clean that thing?

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

if your that hard up that you have to fuck a pocket pussy...you ain't ever getting the real thing.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't it unlikely that the pocket pussy would outperform the tried and true well lubed fist?

― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Because a woman using a dildo/vibrator is hot, and a guy using a "pocket pussy" is not.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

does it have a volume on it? where do i put my cds? and the asshole on that thing is like a pin hole.

nick OTM

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

That's so horrifying. I mean, it really is not just objectifying the woman, it's cutting her into pieces and *then* objectifying your favorite part.

Ick ick ick ick ick.

I'm going to form a feminist support group now.

― Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that I am disturbed that I don't remember the fleshlight despite apparently talking about it.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you've got to spend big bucks to get one with an anus for you and a buddy to practice DPing.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to buy a silicone breast implant, stick a gumdrop on it, and keep it in a drawer to squeeze whenever I feel like it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

throw a set of nostrils on the pussass and we are getting down to business.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

What else have I blocked out?! EZ-Pee Golden Shower In A Can? Ronco's patented Look It's A Keychain No Wait It's a Rimjob?

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"Your ideas intrigue me."

http://www.showtimerotisserie.biz/showtime-rotisserie-images/nav-pic.jpg

― Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

This one's for Nick -
http://www.69adulttoys.com/images/toys/T4001.jpg

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ronco's pocket pussy would have a side of mint jelly on it.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

need i remind everyone about the nancy reagan pocket pussy idea? pure brilliance. perhaps it could come in a gift set with the "gipper dildo" and jelly bean shaped anal beads.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - the pornstar pussymolds probably are more disturbing but i think the beer can pocket pussies are more pathetic.

this is charming - http://www.mypleasure.com/store/assets/product_images/0543.jpg

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

If by charming you mean nightmare inducing, I agree.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.realdoll.com

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

as seen in the big $ rich video

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And the movie Love Object.

They go well beyond disturbing or pathetic.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Okay, we need to cut costs on this fuckable fake head."

"Yeah, no kidding, the shipping alone is cost-prohibitive. I mean, it's not a light head."

"Well, I'm thinking we carve off all the unnecessary parts, the parts without utility. You can't fuck the forehead or the cerebellum, you hear me?"

"Do I ever!"

"Okay, let's get started."

"Right, I'm going to just cut off everything above the mouth here."

"Absolutely, except the nose."

"Right, so here we -- wait, what?"

"Well, you can't get rid of the nose! That's the whole point!"

"How is that -- I mean, we're getting rid of all the non-usable parts, right, the parts not involved with --"

"Yeah, exactly! How can you get rid of the nose, you sexdunce?"

"I'm just -- look -- all right, you do the carving, okay? I'm going to just ... go over there ... I'm going to see if there's a cheaper brand of styrofoam we can use, that's what I'm going to do. ... nose-fucker."

"What was that?"

"Nothing. Nothing, Dad."

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

what i love about realdoll is that it started out as something much much weirder, originally the hook was you could send in photos of your children and then get a lifesize realistic replica doll of them (what. the. fuck.). the catalogue had all these pictures of children ages 6-13 smiling these warped christian smiles standing next to their identically dressed realdoll. very very scary. moving from that to sex toys (though i'm pretty sure alot of the old models ended up sex toys too) is a huge step toward normalcy.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

what would you do if you were a parent and you accidentally discover your son's flashlight was not a flashlight?

― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

There is nothing pathetic about a pocket pussy. I applaud men for indulging themselves in the world of sex toys.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

How this thread has not been labelled NSFW yet is mystifying.

― Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

But... SEXDUNCE!

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Too bad the rest of the world isn't as enlightened as Jeanne. Hell, too bad *I'm* not that lightened, cause I know if I found a fleshlight my friend's house I'd be calling him bulbfucker til the day he dies.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't fuck the forehead

But you can C on it! Big oversight there.

― Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a sleeve for a penis. You put lube in it, insert yourself, and have a good ol' time. And if you pop your head through to the other side, your lady can service it, thus the sensation of being deep-throated is achieved with no gagging!!

http://www.ilovexor.com/images/lg328201780.jpg

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

You know there are some forehead fetishists out there with huge sticky posters of Tyra Banks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

and gorbachev!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Toys for Boys 101

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm curious about those fuckmachines dan savage (i think, maybe it was fleshbot?) wrote about a couple of weeks back

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

no sex toy can top the Baby Jesus Butt Plug
http://www.second-skin.net/item_images/adult_toys/Devine%20Inspirations/jesus.jpg

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Does it transubstantiate?

― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ilovexor.com/images/lg328201780.jpg

http://www.strangehorizons.com/2001/20010507/gallery/Sand_Worm.jpg

― Kenan (kenan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 434 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Here's a review of the two high-end sex dolls, RealDoll and Superbabe.

http://www.victorias-closet.com/RDvsSB/page3.html

― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Friday, 12 November 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

bought a fake pussy and then went down on it. Now that would be really bizarro.

Geez Ally, how ELSE am I supposed to practice?

Mango. tastes better.

Seriously condoms are not hard to put on or open. you guys need to smoke out or something before you hit the sack, chill a little. And just start to roll them out a bit before you put them on the member and you'll be able to tell if they're inside out. For extra fun and comfort, squeeze a drop of lube in the tip before putting on (rub it in your fingers a little bit so not so cold.)

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.progressiveboink.com/b/images/god/gode4.jpg

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Get out of my brain, Dan Perry.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 12 November 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Bob from Accounting: real dolls
http://www.bobfromaccounting.com/shizzypage19.html

― Bnad, Friday, 12 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i love this thread.
I also bookmarked the "Realdollvsfakedoll, whatever" page for further web dissimination.
SEMINATION!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 November 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"The silicone used in the Realdoll is now on it's third generation that I am aware of. The first version was very soft but also [b]very prone to tears[/b]."

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 12 November 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"Many dolls have a problem with the jaw becoming disconnected at the skull..." - there's just a world of horrible thoughts from the RealDoll comparison.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 12 November 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Mango/David Duchovny = oh my beating heart! :-)

And for more horrific entertainment, here's the website of a guy who repairs those damaged RealDolls:

http://www.realdolldoctor.com/

Plus!!! USED ONES for SALE!!!

― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Friday, 12 November 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

A smart investor would create a market for used Real Dolls such that "used" is added value, like with panties and Supergirl capes, turning Real Doll purchase into a profitable activity and eliminating the pressure to commit to any one Real Doll for too long.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"As used by Brad Pitt."

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah the used Real Dolls are more realistic. You should probably wear a condom, even.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Used ones have more experience and skills!

― Suzyopath (Suzyopath), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

ok some of those real doll porn sites creeped me out.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I just think they're sad.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

What if you paint a happy clown face on them?

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Scary!

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

there's one on the doctor's site where they're hanging from chains.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 13 November 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah the used Real Dolls are more realistic. You should probably wear a condom, even.

There is at least one recorded case of someone getting gonorrhea by using another man's sex doll.

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 13 November 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"I am surprised and impressed by the display of knowledge and skillzor from so many posters in this thread.

I don't suppose I am entirely -- it's more that I'm surprised at the sheer amount of sharing! (Then again maybe I'm not even surprised at that.) "

Yeah that's mainly what I meant.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 13 November 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

That's just par on threads like this.

― Kenan (kenan), Saturday, 13 November 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yes I almost felt like a stereotype of myself discussing my forms of condom-play.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

This might sound really simplistic compared to some of what's been said already on this thread (and sorry but I haven't read all of it) but: doesn't the cock (prominent, semi-autonomous) sort of "invite" objectification in a way the vagina does not? I mean, not to say the vagina cannot be represented, in either a two-dimensional (e.g. Judy Chicago) or three-dimensional sense, but it is after all more "of a piece" with the body (and thus the person) of which it forms a part: while the penis protrudes from the torso, the vagina is actually part of the torso, and is actually a folding into it. In some ways it seems easier, with a dildo, to "forget" that IRL, this member would be attached to a person (a guy). With the pocket vagina, on the other hand, the structure not only reveals a part of, but "leads you into", the "missing" person. In this way, the fleshlight is not only a starker reminder of what's absent than the dildo, but also seems like a more violent form of objectification (because it excises the torso).

I'm just thinking this off the top of my head, so I may well be completely off the mark.

― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

huh huh, cocks are cool, huh huh

is that it?

and again, how do you clean that pocket pussy. and what size pockets?

― d.arraghmac, Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I have seven dildos at home and I still can't come.

― N0well (AaronHz), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe that's why you're pissing blood then.

― d.arraghmac, Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The answer to the thread is that men are gross and women aren't, isn't it?

― wetmink (wetmink), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Collardio, you've made a very interesting observation there. I'm inclined to agree with you.

― Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

man why'd you have to get all smart on us?

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 13 November 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Why are "pocket pussies" considered so pathetic while dildos aren't?

because you can't beat someone to death in GTA:SA with a fleshlight.

― stevie (stevie), Saturday, 13 November 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the term "exquisitely noduled sleeve" on one of the links/images posted above.

Perhaps the reason why "pocket pussies" are considered pathetic etc etc is something to do w/the, uh, physical nature of male masturbation vs female masturbation? TS: mysterious, interesting vs simian, cro-magnon. Or maybe not, I don't know. I don't personally have any problem w/masturbation aids for either sex, except for those things that look like a bit hewn out of a real woman, they make me go ugh a bit. If I found out that any of my irl friends owned a fleshlight or similar, I don't think I'd be that bothered, otoh, if I owned such an item, I'd prob. tell you lot abt it, but not any of my irl friends (wtf? true, though)

The guy who designs the realdoll is, I think a great artist, working in a field that any "conventional" artist who thinks s/he is on the edge in some way would prob. regard as being way beyond the pale. I can't think of any circumstanced under which I'd own one, but in some way, I find it an oddly admirable endeavour. Apart from that anime-looking thing, which is pretty horrid. The other "high end sex doll" ("high end sex doll"!!) that the realdoll is compared to in the website linked to above is horrible, nightmarish. wtf?

I saw the fleshlight on graham norton when we had a tv. the sleeve was long and stretchy. I'm sure if you swung it around your head and beaned someone w/it, it wd be better than the dildo in gte:sa hang on a minute wtf am I thinking about here, argh ffs.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 13 November 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ew! I mean, hot! I mean, wtf!

― objectifryer, Friday, 26 November 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

How are you supposed to get any pearl necklace action with the pubes in the way?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 26 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

What, no ass?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 26 November 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

omg that is scary. h.r. geiger to thread.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 26 November 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

haha and sure enuf!

http://www.fantasyhouse.com/tek9.asp?pg=products&specific=jqhqepd8

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 26 November 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It reminds me of that one bit in The Thing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 November 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fantasygifts.com/tek9.asp?pg=products&specific=jocqepn4

I like the ad-copy for this one. "Double-penetration pleasure" so you and your frat brother/trucker buddy can get off with each other without thinking of yourselves gay.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 26 November 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd be concerned about that "Try me, Buy me" window on the last one.

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 26 November 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...

I just have to revive this thread because Tep is a magnificent bastard, and I miss him posting on here.

I mean:

" ... nose-fucker."

"What was that?"

"Nothing. Nothing, Dad."

Aw, man.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

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― , Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

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― , Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

The semen trail in the third pane is kind of disturbing.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

The birthing panels...!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2005/10/11/real_dolls/index.html

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

That dave cat guy in the link above used to have this really cool, fucked up & funny website years ago, all written in genesis p orridgese - thees & ovs & all that, I used to check it from time to time, coz I used to enjoy the stuff he wrote. Then one day I went there, and he'd deleted the entire site contents, and replaced it with a picture of himself sat next to his realdoll on the front page. I was like woah, WTF?!?!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

http://www.vice.com/read/masturbation-sleeve-best-new-male-sex-toy

Cashmere penis sleeve?

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 02:18 (nine years ago)

...is the name of my Prince covers band

― and all the politicians making crazy sounds (snoball), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 17:32 (nine years ago)

We have the technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VKdGb-Fp-4

― gesticulating Pez dispenser (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:31 (nine years ago)

That video links to one for this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/vitafun-his-her-smart-interactive-sex-toys/#/

Look at the size of that thing!

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:39 (nine years ago)

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