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Sarah, RickyT, Ned, Dan, and Maura are all GOTHS.

Now is the chance for you to shop your fellow posters to the Gothfynder General. Leave no stone unturned!

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Who turned up to the pub in ALL BLACK, TOM EWING?

― Sarah, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah and RickyT goff - I don't see it ! there is zero goth on Starry Vs the Attomick Brane.

How old woz Starry at the height of goth popularity in 1985? and RickyT woz still in primary school !

― DJ Martian, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Too much peering through flour-cake make-up has dimmed your senses Starry. My jumper was a respectable navy blue and my T-Shirt was red.

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahem, and I haf I mentioned that this Friday I shall be changing my blog to a Livejournal account, boogying on down as the kids say at Slimelight and selling my 'thrift store indie' garb in favour of charity shop black ballgowns.

― Sarah, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahem, I would haf been four.

― Sarah, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Red like BLUD then?

― Sarah, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

DJ Martian is ABSOLUTELY a Goth incidentally.

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aren't beards nordic old-skool goff MR. EWING?

― Nicole, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No - they're hippie which is the topic for another thread.

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Youth is no excuse. Goth revivalism is (un-)alive and walks among us.

Black clothes and beards need not connote the SIN OF GENE LOVES JEZEBEL. But I shall be monitoring your possible Nordic influence closely, Ewing.

― , Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does metal count?

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought that one had to WEAR black to be a goth, not BE black. (He says as he listens to a Skinny Puppy side-project on his work computer.)

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought Ned was a hippie.

― Sean, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ooh ooh! I just remember Tom reviewing a Suede single, saying it was like Siouxsie but not as good. Surely that bears the mark of a goff?

― Nicole, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Other blatant Buffy-loving goths: SinXor, Welthorpe.

Seek them out.

― Tim, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan, you are a Goth because Ned is a Goth I would say.

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Saying something is not as good as Siouxsie is not the same as saying Siouxsie is good.

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My most listened to old album in 2001 was JuJu, and it is good to see young Tim Skykicking also exploring the S&theBanshees back cat.

― DJ Martian, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But I remember that the review implied that Siouxsie was good, because you kind of liked the Suede single...

― Nicole, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

On the list of possibles: Gareth. Evidence: suspicious W. Yorks heritage / affiliation; reacts like scalded cat if you refer to him as a mod (to some goths the mention of mod is as the garlic to a vampire). What think ye?

― Tim, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim Finney is surely a fellow member of the black clad hordes.

He likes LOTR = GOTH
He is a big Buffy fan = GOTH
His blog is named after a record released on Guernica = an imprint of 4AD = UBERGOTH

― RickyT, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought Ned was a hippie.

*gnashes teeth, invokes Hastur the Unspeakable and sacrifices ten thousand people bloodily as smoke and flames rise all about me*

I AM NOT A GODDAMN HIPPIE, MOTHERFUCKER!

There, I'm glad we could get that cleared up.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

4. S+B evidence as revealed above = beyond all doubt now surely

― RickyT, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And yes, goth goth and more goth. Who saw Bauhaus *four* times on the reunion tour? I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE ME.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The boy of badgers names himself after nocturnal creature which wears a mostly black coat but with GOTH white streak in forehead.

He betrays his fellows well, though.

― Tim, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

[Tim H - Gareth is another too young for Goth in the 80s]..but Does Gareth have the The Sisters of Mercy - Temple of love 1992 version in his record collection.

― DJ Martian, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dude, you need to start doing your hair Robert Smith style or something if you don't want people to think you're a hippie.

― Nicole, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tempting, but I'd probably single-handedly contribute to the destruction of the ozone layer if I did.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

can I shop myself? I own records by Fields of the Nephilim, Sisters of Mercy, The Mission &c., wear black a lot, and have been known to go to Goth clubs.

I also like Destiny's Child.

― DV, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I plead innocence under addendum 5, subpara VII of the Goth Statute - the "Romo" clause.

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Key question -- is Dickon Edwards goth or glam?

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He's a hippy.

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The so-called Romo Clause has been struck from the statute after it was discovered that Romo was tainted throughout with the stain of the Goth, in the form of the Glam lineage mentioned. This was a difficult time in the Gothfynder community, referred to as the "Stevie Vayne and the Dead Vaynes" wars.

― Tim, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He's a hippy.

Debatable.

Maybe the true test of gothness is whether you read Storm Constantine novels. Which I don't -- not yet anyway.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I being goth like escaping yr bio-geographical destiny? Cos if it is, that's Momus up before the Gothfynder for consideration.

― RickyT, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I = Is above

― RickyT, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love the idea that Dan is condemned to being a goth on account of being black.

― N., Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dickon Edwards is a Goth, anyway. First band named after Shelley, i.e. either author of Frankenstein or husband thereof. Unless I'm thinking of someone else. Orlando also suspect as a Goth name.

― Tom, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Surely everybody knows I'm a just rockabilly boy.

― Michael Daddino, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. This is surely Hopkins' best performance in YONKS.

2. Martian said 'back cat' which looks like 'black cat' - that sounds gothy to me.

3. I like the Cure, like Tolkien, once wrote a song about Halloween, and have a vast black jumper. I'd wager that it was the biggest jumper on IL*, but someone might yet own an even bigger one.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The pinegoth?

― Nicole, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought the proof went more along the lines of:
1) Ned is a member of set goth,
2)Dan = Ned
Substituting 2) into 1) => Dan is a member of set goth.

― RickyT, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus = "Hairstyle of the Devil" => as goth as you like and then some. Also RELEASED records on old school 4AD.

― Tim, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd like to see the Pinefox all kitted out in goth gear up at stage front at a Lloyd Cole show...just STARING at him.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Did he?

― RickyT, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I find Ricky T.'s proof to be perfectly valid.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus? Yes indeed, when leading the Happy Family.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Since we're on hairstyles, and the Pinefox has offered himself up for consideration, I'd very be surprised if his hair had never been back- combed... suspicious...

― Tim, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

FatNick owns records by Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Damned (if they count).

― DG, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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Oooh I look forward to that, even though I don't like RVD so much. The last thing I saw was Regal getting Coach with the brass knuckles shortly before getting done over by Edge. Must catch up, maybe tonight.

― chris, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Damn, missed that PPV coz it was on Sky and I am poor and don't have sky sports! :(...(off to WWF.com to read the results!)...

― j>e>l, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

::ahem::

even tho the conversation has turned to wrestling, i think you all are forgetting something...

...like a certain dream i had?

it's already known 'round the world that ilx is one big gothy farm.

― nancy b., Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that dream has apparently vanished wiv the day dame nancy b

― mark s, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

wrestling is the sports of goths...well...ahem...probably not...I don't suppose there is a sport of goths.

― j>e>l, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

dreaaaaam, dream, dream, dream, dreaaaaaaam.

― yes, yes packing. nothing to see here. move along please., Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eep!

thank goodness for jess, else i would be flustered -and- embarrassed.

― nancy b., Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...

I am NOT, repeat NOT, a hippy. I've had all kinds of abuse thrown at me in my lifetime to date, but that takes the biscuit! I balk at henna tattoos! I grimace at tie-dye! I shirk from flowers in hair!

If anything, I'm bit Goth mixed with Mod. Which makes me a God.

...

... or a Moth.

― Dickon, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Goth!

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

black makeup round her eyes/ goth chix make me (go) wild they always seem SO SAD/ crying alone in their beds i was just hanging at the disco/ swatches and rolexs glowing on the floor i saw at the bar drinking some bacardi/ this goth chick is LOOKING AT ME

now shes coming over here/ im very afraid i dont know what to say/ (ill try sumthin anyway) shes getting closer/ we are ready to dance she picks me up/ im going insane

― Chupa-Cabras, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe you're a Moth God.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

For all you wacky kids, here's the link to the 2004 NYC horror fest.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, scarey!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/morethanrats/DSCI0015.jpg

Just out of interest, does anyone think I'm a goth?

(No! I'm not a hippy either!)

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I would say, based solely on that mix cd you sent me, that you are not a goth and definately not a hippie.

― n.a. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago)

GOTH AS FUCK 24/7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/sexymollusk/alextwo_copy.jpg

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Um, sir Mei, when pray tell was the last time your flesh saw the sun?

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:20 (twenty years ago)

All week we work for daytime TV
When we laugh we say "tee hee hee"
We are mod mock rock goths

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Thats you mei? Nice pic :)

I... don't think I even need to comment about myself on a thread like this. I'll just sit here quietly until Tad or Ned or Col or Adam or Jim come along and point at me shouting BLACK!! BLLLAACCKK!

And so on. *grumble*

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:04 (twenty years ago)

I was not even thinking of doing so, Trayce, and I'm sure the others weren't either. Too obvious.

Anyway. On to other topics. Hmmm. Taken any more photos of graveyards lately?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

I mean look at me! Goth? Nahh...

http://people.connect.net.au/~trace/gothtrayce.jpg

(disclaimer: this pic is 2 years old and I no longer have black hair, nor even fit into that pvc top. So there.)

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Are goths ILX's human analogue for cats?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:17 (twenty years ago)

good lord no

― purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Goths do like cats don't they? There seems to be an affinity there.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago)

despite my skull messenger bag i'm not goffy and i like cats

― purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago)

You are not a goth because, unlike a goth, you say 'new shoes or PVC pants? Pah! I would rather buy the new Toaster 7"'.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago)

And I am not a goth, but have many goth friends. I am, perhaps, a goth enabler.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:34 (twenty years ago)

On recent evidence I'd say all Australians are goths in denial.

― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:49 (twenty years ago)

including the wiggles

― purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago)

And Harold Bishop.

― Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:04 (twenty years ago)

just the other day Harold was extolling the virtues of PVC so i don't think he's denying it at all

― purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Thats darn tootin'.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago)

A goth thread isn't a goth thread until Trayce has denied being one.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago)

What are you, blind? I just did above! Well um sort of.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago)

I DONT EVEN LIKE GOTH MUSIC :(

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago)

lies!

― purple patch (electricsound), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago)

OK that new skinny puppy single is good ... and i have ONE cure album... oh who am I kidding.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago)

:) :) :)

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Trayce, why do you always give in to the Darkside? :p

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago)

W-w-well... I dont like the Darkness! :/

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago)

ONE Cure album? ONE? Damn. I have approximately ten Cure albums. And I'm the New Romantic fanatic! (Heh. It's okay. My Cure fandom is based on this subconscious bias I have toward British musical artists. I think.) But wait. I've become quite the Lenore fanatic too. Um, and for years, my favorite color in the world was black. And I stay out of the sun as much as possible. And I love the night time. And I love haunted houses. And my Skinny Puppy/VNV Nation/Front 242 fanatic friend made me a mix CD with the aforementioned artists and I love them all now. And I love The Crow.

But I'm still the New Romantic fanatic. Uh, even though I don't own any frilly blouses. Or pirate outfits. Okay, CLOSETED New Romantic fanatic. Though New Romanticism is sorta like a cousin of the "goth" scene. But not even siblings. Just wanted to clear that up. Okay?

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, and Trayce? I think you'll be happy to know that I NOW associate you completely with They Might Be Giants. Though I think the Barenaked Ladies also involuntarily snuck in there too. So, um, yay, I guess. ;)

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:34 (twenty years ago)

mei could be jbr's cousin

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago)

Heheh yay Dee! Being associated with TMBG is a very good thing =)

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:37 (twenty years ago)

Group shot from the last TMBG tour:

ihttp://www.goth.net/~helen_of_troy49/mybois.JPG

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear. The sad thing is that looks like a whole lot of people I know.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago)

*slaps Dan silly*

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 26 August 2004 04:57 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that's me, taken a few of weeks ago in Haugesund, Norway.

Um, it's true that the sun doesn't like me very much! Though it does give me lots of freckles as presents.

The thing is, it occurred to me that I might somehow have become a goth without noticing. In my experience people who are goths tend to say they're not, and I'd always assumed most of them were being, well, less than honest with themselves.

But I do wear black a lot(it's practical and goes with anything), sometimes hang out in clubs where los of Goths go, I like Bauhaus, Killing Joke (I know Alex, they're not goths,, but...), NIN, Tool and I've even checked out VNV Nation and Wolsheim.

Push comes to shove my favourite alcoholic drink might just be cider and black (though I actually just prefer the black).

I think gothettes are cute :-)

So I still say I'm not a goth, but I would say that, wouldn't I, if I was one?

― mei (mei), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Are goths ILX's human analogue for cats?

And if they are, can we stroke goths under their chins?

(and do they lick their genitals in public?)

A computer magazine is going to feature me in its blogging column in a forthcoming issue. I think I was rather nasty to goths in the interview, so I'm a little apprehensive about what my gothic friends are going to think.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:44 (twenty years ago)

In my experience people who are goths tend to say they're not, and I'd always assumed most of them were being, well, less than honest with themselves.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago)

steam punk is the new goth

― kephm, Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)

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