Has ILE Gone Down The Dumper?

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In classick Smash Hits terminology.

Evidence for - need one elaborate.

Evidence against - K-Rad Guide To Cycling among others.

Tom, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Things'll get better. It's just a bad patch.

electric sound of jim, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it's happened before, people will take a chill pill, ally's ass will emerge as the biggest thing thisboard has ever seen and hanle y wills tp making sense

Queen G, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think that certain threads are great and some are just bizarre and i think that this place goes thru times of growth , or maybe its just shit,

anthony, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it's always good! i read it every time i get on a computer (ie most days) even if there's nuthin i'd wanna "contribute" to...even the crappy stuff is interesting to me...admittedly i am not a real representative consumer

duane, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It lives and thrives. Down the dumper, never!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah Ned, the eternal optimist! But alas, I did not enjoy the boards today.

It looks as if the flaws inherent in the low security level here (at greenspun) are beginning to show. Instead of being just an ugly blot on the community that people can shake their heads at and then ignore out of boredom, a 'problem' here has more freedom to poison and warp the whole process. It's awfully hard to maintain the decorum of 'real life' in an online community unless the participants are *held* to some immutable facsimle of an identity. Some will undoubtedly argue that is the great thing about online discussions - that new freedom, unpredictability, rawness, fire, blah blah blah etc., but I don't get the sense that *that* is what most here are after. There's a lot of fun here and a lot of intelligent debate, but most importantly (in the survival sense), there has been an awful lot of trust and respect. When individuals flaunt the conventions and treat the place as their personal playground, they weaken the established bonds and poison the group mentality. It's a bit of a tight spot, as it seems that some people will just never, ever get over themselves and defer to the larger intended purpose of a place.

Kim, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

me fence is back up

a-33, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DG has been understandably quiet on this issue. A good mood conducive to amiable aimless tosh will return.

Alan T, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yes. but ilm is in good form at the moment! plenty of dancehall, jazz and rave questions!

i have to admit i don't like the aggressive tone of many of the recent threads, but thats not to say they're wrong or anything, they're just something i'm can't really relate to, but other people seem to enjoy them, so...

gareth, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think it's okay. It gets a little heated every couple of months. I just avoid the big old arguement threads. And it's Friday today, which is the best day of the week, and a new month, and...

jel --, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kim Dimbitch would like us to be the Vatican. Pompous and hypocritical - the Democrat Party is looking for people like you.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hee hee! tom, we should come back to this thread at 5pm and i think you'll have your answer!

gareth, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe starting this thread was a bad idea.

One of the things I love about ILE is the LUSENET technology, and specifically the way it allows you just to keep away from certain threads if you can see they're boring or aggressive. No, ILE has not gone down the dumper.

N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think Gareth's got the hang of how I work. Anyway this is literally only a 15-minute teabreak and I'm just popping my head round the door. Won't be back for awhile (i.e. weeks - busy month ahead and dramatic developments in personal life heh heh) but I'll sure you'll manage without me. Bye for now!

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe starting this thread was a bad idea.

like, duh! maybe me and you should have a fight too nick, like real men and that, you, um, er, nasty man!

gareth, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nick yes it was a bad idea starting the thread but I was interested, and besides I wanted to use the phrase "down the dumper" after being reminded of it by popjustice.

Tom, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think what Kim's saying is very sensible BTW.

Tom, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

and no, it's not gone down the dumper at all. Sorry for my part in what went on yesterday, you'll all be pleased to know that a most pleasant evening last night in the company of good friends, Mary Lorson and Tanya Donnelly put me in a very good mood indeed. And I intend to keep it that way.

chris, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm very definitely with Tom re. what Kim said.

katie, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

curse of ILx - i give wyrd to co cycling ala k-rad - it starts hail- stoening - rock on!

a-33, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

finally agree with kim

a-33 ^U-turn^, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

its ahl too london fer me nooadaze

B.F.N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I love any excuse to say "down the dumper".

But I don't think ILE has. It goes through good periods and bad ones, it's pretty cyclical.

Nicole, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"DG has been understandably quiet on this issue."
Well, I dunno, the board seems the same as ever to me apart from a certain poster who wishes to antagonise everyone and do his best to wreck ILE. Sadly, it doesn't seem I can do anything about that.

DG, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh i don't know, i think Graham has been pretty well behaved actually

gareth, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think he was talking about Nicole.

N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He's not talking about me?

Dan Perry, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nothing can deter me from my goal of destroying ILE.

And it's all because !I don't give a fuck about this world!.

Nicole, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hi DG!

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hello you!

DG, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How many questions like this are there?

I must confess THIS time I actually noticed myself becoming disinterested in ILE but nonetheless I'm not too worried, there's a thread like this every month or so.

Ronan, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't know if I'm just thin-skinned these days, but I'm just tired of trying to put forward an idea for discussion and having it dismissed in a one or two line post or ignored completely. There seems to be less willingness to disagree in an interesting way. Maybe familiarity has bred contempt. Maybe people don't want to bother engaging in conversations with people they for whom they don't even bother to pretend to respect any more. It's fine when arguments become passionate or heated if there's some substance to them, but if it's all just "you would think that, you asshole"-type responses then the whole thing is just depressing. I'm sure spring will change things.

fritz, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*sigh*... The old saying "if you can't say something nice then don't say anything" really holds here... I'm really dying to point out a perhaps obvious fact about a certain poster, but I refuse to do so. I also realize that saying "I'm thinking something about someone but I'm not gonna say who or what" is pointless and stupid. But it really would be nice if everyone would be nice, no? Of course disagreements will always occur, but why, for the love of god why, would anyone deliberately try to stir things up over and over again? Who would want to bring such darkness into their lives and into others? Sheesh, that sounds like Gale. But I won't take it back.

Sean, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

...The Shadow Knows!

Sterling Clover, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Marcello is so unfocused in his bile-spewing that it doesn't bother me most of the time, but his hounding of Q and Gale was really ugly.

It's the casual hipper-than-thou contempt for the less-trendy tossed around by the cool kids that make it feel like a high school cafeteria.

fritz, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But Gale and Q are the coolest ppl. on the board, nearly! I think the 'cello is jealo(us).

Sterling Clover, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

where is Dave Q anyhow?

gareth, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dave Q = Gale = Marcello = D**mp****l! There, my ridiculous and unsupportable theory.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no, i'm iron man

gareth, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've seen Dave Q and I've seen Marcello, so I can confirm they aren't the same person.

DG, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hurrah! Now for evidence of the rest, which is where I guess Mark S's brave expedition today will lead.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no, i'm iron man

This is a Butthole Surfers cover of 'Never Understand', no? But why?

N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Today? Holdja horses nedster it's not till the tenth! DP and I are both really excited abt it! (Really!! It was definitely the upside of ILE yesterday... ) Did anyone evah investigate Gale's Abuse Support Group board? It froze up my computer (yeah, like everything else on the interweb except greenspun).

mark s, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DP and I are both really excited abt it! Really!!

I believe you.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Marcello...his hounding of Q and Gale was really ugly." - I've seen the Gale bashing but could someone point me to where he went after dave...

kevin enas, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It'd be great if there was a pub called the Dumper.

jel --, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Twas Dave Q. who attacked Marcello first, actually.

I saw it, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dave Q went after me first though.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

this thread is all about ther evivial of butt mucous - well fuck you all, i'm out of here, and i'll never shit my filth upon your darkened doorsteps again. i can tell when my anal weeping is not wanted.

Queen G, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

uh, what beef do you have with tom as a mod?

remy bean, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

yah well if everyone could read the thread than they wouldnt assume that would they? it was chicken shit of jon in the first place for starting that thread on secret board and its chicken shit of ilx in general to have a secret board for that to go down on.

xpost

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:05 (seventeen years ago)

wait, who is remy asking?

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:06 (seventeen years ago)

i don't think it was chicknshit of Jon, it was very calculated. how he got away with starting that thread and posting the things that Alex took most umbrage with but managed to get the flak directed towards Ian is beyond me. maybe i'm giving him too much credit.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

you dont think it was chicken shit to start a thread about a poster's income on a secret board when said poster couldn't read it? uh ok.

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

perhaps one of these excellent mods should delete tubfurry up there and make this thread less NSFW

DG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

he was trying to rake up a shit-storm and you played your part very well. i'm sure he was delighted. xp

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

if he wanted to start a shitstorm he would've posted it on ile.

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

Now I just want to see this sekrit board to find out if some ilxor has been dumpster diving for my paystubs.

kenan, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

and miss out on the extra secret borad baggage? like i said, maybe i'm giving him too much credit, but if not his method was A+ xp

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

at best he accomplished a minor shitsquall (2xp)

remy bean, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

jw got pretty upset at me when i reposted the thread where alex could see it so yah.. i think you give the guy too much credit.

chaki, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:16 (seventeen years ago)

i don't think it was chicknshit of Jon, it was very calculated. how he got away with starting that thread and posting the things that Alex took most umbrage with but managed to get the flak directed towards Ian is beyond me. maybe i'm giving him too much credit.

-- Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:09 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

it's because everyone expects jon to be an asshole at this point

bell_labs, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:16 (seventeen years ago)

if Jon sincerely complained about you moving that thread Chaki then i take it back, and he's chickenshit and dumb as bricks on top of it. it would not be out of carachter for Jon to go out of his way to engineer shit and beef, tho, so you can see where i was coming from.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

why is this not worksafe, or is that a joke

has anyone ever done the IMPORTANT STATISTICAL WORK of plotting posts per thread over time?

thomp, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

i don't like ppl talking shit about alex in nyc

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

ok we're one step up out of the dumper now tubfurry has gone

DG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

uh, isn't everyone sick of talking about ILX yet?

Surmounter, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

apparently not

DG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

wow. we need more to do.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

Sure does make it easier to tell who is incredibly self-important.

dan m, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

It does?

HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah if you can like, read.

dan m, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

OH CRAP THATS WHY I KEEP GETTING CONFUSED

John Justen, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

Good job playing the purposeful obtuse card guys.

dan m, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:56 (seventeen years ago)

if you want to see purposeful obtuse you should see the other thread

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

lol "I should?"

dan m, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

coulda shoulda woulda

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

wait so you guys arent all making squiggly line pictures to exchange

John Justen, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

egg on my face

John Justen, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

(without the yuk yuk comedy i am not being purposefully obtuse i actually have no idea who you are talking about)

John Justen, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

I'd c&p but I don't wanna get banned :D

dan m, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

(my point was that most everyone here has stretches of shocking self-importance all of the time and I don't think you need a thread like this to see it)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

uh there's definitely a spectrum

bell_labs, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

There is, but you still don't need a thread like this to see it.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

this thread is all about ther evivial of butt mucous - well fuck you all, i'm out of here, and i'll never shit my filth upon your darkened doorsteps again. i can tell when my anal weeping is not wanted.

-- Queen G, Friday, March 1, 2002 1:00 AM (6 years ago)

^^^real talk

DG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:17 (seventeen years ago)

Right but IMO the difference is that there are the people who go in streaks of self-importance and then there are the people rehashing the same obscure points over on the ADMIN thread all trying to rationalize why they do/don't agree with the ideas put forth by the mods. Plus I don't read every thread so it consolidates that shit a bit. xp

dan m, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:18 (seventeen years ago)

i can't even remember what back then prompted this thread

DG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

dom your anal weeping is always wanted

max, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:16 (seventeen years ago)

i can't even remember what back then prompted this thread

-- DG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 20:21 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I think it was that "what is the most unacceptable thing to come out of yr ass" thread./ I just woke up. I think I'll go back to sleep.l

Pashmina, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

omg that thread

HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

and it comes full circle with the anal weeping?

Abbott, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

the exit count continues to rise

can the exit count ever go down?

darraghmac, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:31 (seventeen years ago)

hahahahahha yeah that is a good point

John Justen, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

yes, like when felicity and the pinefox came back!

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

so ilx is getting better?

darraghmac, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

you've got to believe it.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

http://eil.com/newgallery/Spandau-Ballet-Gold-162495.jpg

Abbott, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:40 (seventeen years ago)

http://image.fishpond.co.nz/731458523321.jpg

"Nothing can stand in our way!"

Abbott, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

(it had better not, cos we'll ban it)

darraghmac, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)


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