Best ex-England manager in the Premiership

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It took me a while to notice that we now have the last five England coaches managing Premiership clubs. And if you count caretaker managers, now that Howard Wilkinson has taken over at Sunderland, we now have the last six.

Who's the best club manager?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 10 October 2002 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Robson > Hoddle > Venables > Keegan > Wilkinson > Taylor

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:05 (twenty-three years ago)

This of course is excluding Peter Taylor. If you can have Wilkinson, you can have Taylor.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm going to go with wide-boy-yardy Venables, although Bobby Robson did an excellent job in the Italy 1990 world cup

― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yeah, I forgot about Peter Taylor.

Fuzzy - I mean just as a club manager.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Bobby Robson best, he's a good stick.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)

they're all rubbish, but Robbo has the best credentials - tho Hoddle's the only one who ever won anything! (ok it was only Le Tournoi but still)

― blueski, Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Taylor's the best club manager. By far. Just look at what he did with Watford. Robson would be second.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Bobby Robson. Taylor (G) is a good man too, and Peter Taylor may well be - he's got years ahead of him. Keegan and Hoddle - cunts' cunts, obv.

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:57 (twenty-three years ago)

hey Keegan's as good a man as (Our) Graham! and i think Hoddle got a really bad deal from the press...tho he's still a cunt just for 'Diamond Lights' ;)

― blueski, Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:00 (twenty-three years ago)

''tho he's still a cunt just for 'Diamond Lights' ;)''

not as bad as John Barnes' 'rapping' surely?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:01 (twenty-three years ago)

"Me come from Jamaica
Me name's John Barnes
And when I get the ball
The crowd go bananas"

That last line... the most ill-advised thing in music ever?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:11 (twenty-three years ago)

no, that would be the cod drum & bass bridge in that appleton song.

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Robbo gets my vote every time. I watched the press coinference this morning where they announced it all. Seeing Wilko's face when Bob Murray announced that there was absolutely no money to spend this season whatsoever was a treasure. I mean, he said he'd been told this but you could see it wasn't the question he wanted to hear.

Cockerill seems sound though, apparently he's an "ideas" man.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:27 (twenty-three years ago)

why does anyone think taylor is any good anymore?! you see his face during games and it is obvious he has no clue what to do next if his watford tactics don't come off. you can actually see his brain wondering who/ usually what to blame. i mean OYVIND LEONHARDSEN!!!! i beg you!!!! juan angel must just be thinking "what the fuck" good man my arse. pathetic relic. wilkinson similarly useless but seems to have procured himself a reputation as a "master tactitian". hmm. hoddle's man manangement is appalling but he is a good thinker. *cough cough j. redknapp sweeper cough*

re cotterill: everyone wants a steve mclaren now. and can you believe george graham said the club didn't match his ambitions!! keep waiting mate!

― bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 October 2002 13:22 (twenty-three years ago)

the others r struggling to come to terms with football's developments (jury out on venables but omitting dacourt is worrying), hoddle everyone hates, so i go with robson. even he is having a strange season, lots of rubbish young strikers (lua lua, ameobi), no one tackling in the midfield and still no fullbacks!!

titus bramble c/d?

― bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 October 2002 13:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I am trying to respond to Mark C.

Words are failing me.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

titus bramble c/d?

the racehorse or the laughably incompetent close season recruit to newcastle's laughably incompetent defence?

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)

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― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

he was good for ipswich in those first few months of the premiership no?

― bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

ilm strrreeccchhhheeedddd my copy/paste.

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

he's obviously got his fair share of potential but i can't get the image of him setting michael owen up for a cheeky goal in the 'relegation knees-up' at anfield last season. that wasn't a one-off abberation either.

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:32 (twenty-three years ago)

"That last line... the most ill-advised thing in music ever?"

I don't know... I liked its air of defiance.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 October 2002 08:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Robson > Keegan > Hoddle > Venables > Taylor > Wilkinson
(spot the NUFC fan, + I'm giggling over Sgt. Bilko being appointed to the stadium of plight)

― stevo (stevo), Friday, 11 October 2002 08:13 (twenty-three years ago)

We saw Tes Bramble play at Southend the other week and no-one will be naming a racehorse after *him* (donkey possibly oh haha my aching sides).

On a show us yer medals basis wouldn't it go:

Robson > Venables > Wilko > Hoddle > Taylor > Keegan?

I think I'd be happy with that order. Wilkinson's the only one of this bunch to have won the title in England, yes?

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 October 2002 08:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Bramble lacks confidence, + is out of form. He's still a kid and no one doubts his potential. One for the future (he hopes).

― stevo (stevo), Friday, 11 October 2002 08:25 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah but stevo it's been almost 2 years!!

― bob zemko (bob), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Sir Bobby Robson was widely ridiculed when he bought Craig Bellamy, and what a great signing he proved to be. If Bramble hasn't impressed of late I'm prepared to give him time (he surely can't be as bad as Marcelino).

Besides Titus was friendly enough to give me his autograph during the Dutch pre-seasons (yeah I know I'm sad but I don't care).

― stevo (stevo), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:18 (twenty-three years ago)

was robby bobson really ridiculed when he signed bellamy. i know he wasn't lighting many fires but wasn't he recognised as potentially a very good player in a poor team? bramble has been talked about for years and, admittedly from a distance, appears to have gone backwards. what your defence needed was a proven, consistent and experienced centre-half. ok, two consistent centre-halves...and a couple of full backs. :)

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Bellamy struggled at Coventry. When Robson bought him Sky Blues fans were delighted they'd got rid of him, and amazed they'd recouped the 6 mill paid to Norwich. Many questioned SBR's sanity. Amongst Newcastle fans I'd never witnessed as sceptical a reaction to a signing since Kenny Dalglish decided 36 year old Ian Rush was a useful addition to the squad.

― stevo (stevo), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)

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