RIP Joan Rivers

:(

:-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-geESuYCUwI

rip she was funny :( baruch dayan emet

The fallout between her and Carson was sad. Thought her documentary was very thoughtful on the subject of aging, and fighting against it (not the plastic surgery end of it, but the compulsion to work).

Is someone being blamed/sued for the botched operation/anesthesia?

RIP Joan, there is a place in heaven for hilarious trailblazers.

Title of her upcoming UK tour: 'Quick...Before They Close The Lid (Seriously...this one could be IT!)'

RIP Apprentice Winner

between the journalist beheadings, Robin Williams and this I'm kinda anxious for someone lame to die so I can get back in character

fuck joan rivers

cosigned

http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/07/joan-rivers-rants-palestine-civilian-deaths-israel-hamas-video/

Didn't you defend JLG's latest round of anti-semitic remarks on the basis that he was old?

who is JLG

Godard i'm guessing

Joseph Levitt Gordon

I was p disappointed with American Jewish media figures reaction to latest Israeli ugliness across the board (Wallace Shawn excepted)

don't think it invalidates Joan's accomplishments/work tho

Read it at first as joseph gordon levitt and was stunned

fuck joan rivers

― mattresslessness, Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:55 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't think it invalidates Joan's accomplishments/work tho

― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:04 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

misogynist celeb commentary?

fuck joan rivers

― mattresslessness, Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:55 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, September 4, 2014 3:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My mom loved her on the Tonight Show and I thought she seemed likable enough on her reality show. Also my mom always watches QVC and joan is on there often hawking goods. She seems like one of my slightly embarrassing, elderly aunts and I feel sad she's gone.

Joseph Levitt Gordon

― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, September 4, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what does LOL also stand for?

Her "work" in the last 30 years was full of wealth worship and mocking the powerless, fitting perfectly with her "don't tax me" political outlook.

She DID have something once, though.

I did find one pearl in A Piece of Work, when she says about the 2008 election, "Do you think it fucking matters who's president?"

misogynist celeb commentary?

first major female standup comic (w apologies to Moms Mabley)

mocking the powerless

she's closer to Rickles in the equal-opportunity-mockery sweepstakes imo

Nah, her comedy was often vile.

"first" has become the official story, and it depends on how you define your terms.

I like her purely out of familiarity.

honestly i just never got the appeal. "oh lots of gays like joan rivers, weird, not going to look into that 90% chance it's sad." sort of feel like it's similar to sinatra for straight men now? the received second-rate celeb socialite idol. except sinatra was actually creative afaict

Sinatra's voice is incredible, are you not aware of this little-known fact

(he was also a total asshole)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEtUo9BkWF0

"first" has become the official story, and it depends on how you define your terms.

yeah I agree there's some grey area here (is vaudeville standup? idk); the title is mostly because she was the only woman to come up through the boys' club of comedy clubs and TV writing/appearances in the television era. which is still notable imo, p much every female comic after her owes her a debt for this and is aware of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5UaUqH19-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vefkvjcjNj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRtsembLrpw

“I was the one who really caused Edgar’s suicide,” she would say, “because, while we were making love, I took the bag off my head.”

There's self-deprecation and then there's Joan Rivers.

still one of entertainment's greatest examples of careerism as mental illness:

Joan and her daughter, Melissa, portray themselves in an autobiographical TV movie about the aftermath of the 1987 suicide of Rivers' husband, Edgar Rosenberg. From the opening sequence, in which shots of Joan in a hospital for a liposuction operation are contrasted with scenes of Rosenberg overdosing on pills and liquor, you realize that Tears and Laughter will be absolutely shameless. The movie doesn't avoid any awkward moment, from mother and daughter going through Rosenberg's personal effects (''His Filofax!'') to Joan's monologue directed at her husband as he lies in his coffin.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,302252,00.html

oh this thread can i just unsee it please

there's a parallel with some of jerry lewis's more indulgent/self-excoriating/embarrassing stuff... both comics with a mile-wide mean streak and not a little fucked in the head

xpost

did i mention i like both joan rivers and jerry lewis? though i'd be fool to say i liked everything or even most things they've done

joan's self-loathing seems closer to Rodney Dangerfield's imo - altho Rodney never directed his rage outward at external targets, it was always at himself

I'd be careful if I were avid Lynch, Todd Barry, Chelsea Perreti and Chris Rock.

Avid Lynch, the editing suite that will unintelligible pilot episode into a great film.

i have no delusions about Jerry Lewis's ugly side -- at his best, neither does he? -- but unlike Joan Rivers, he did more than one thing well in his career.

(tho I have never seen Rabbit Test)

I think that interview he did about "The clown that cried" was the best thing he's done for a very long time.

there was nothing i liked about her. r.i.p.

http://www.starwarsautographcollecting.com/Autographs/Spaceballs/DotMatrixJoahRivers.jpg

yeah I agree there's some grey area here (is vaudeville standup? idk); the title is mostly because she was the only woman to come up through the boys' club of comedy clubs and TV writing/appearances in the television era. which is still notable imo, p much every female comic after her owes her a debt for this and is aware of it.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 4, 2014 3:18 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What about Phyllis Diller?

What about Moms Mabley?

Joan Rivers is classic, shame on you people. I am verklempt. You can see her earlier work - as that on the Carol Burnett show - on Youtube.

Crabby, crabby crabby....

Just happened to watch a Carol Burnett Show two days ago with Joan Rivers. Joan was the third funniest lady on that show.

She told one funny joke though..."on my wedding night my husband said "I'll help you with your buttons". I said "I'M ALREADY NAKED!"".

duh I posted that clip cuz I thought it was funny morbz

xp

botox overdose?

She never made me laugh and I found her kind of hateful, but maybe I just haven't seen the right clips.

instead of working, i just watched a clip of every greg giraldo roast appearance. so, thanks, joan.

morbs, i would hardly equate rivers's and lewis's achievements (although god knows lewis made his fair share of awful movies and television), and i agree that lewis has always been quite aware of his failings and dark side. in fact it's been the source of some of his cruellist and strangest comedy. which is where i drew the parallel with rivers.

cruelest

I don't know what Rivers was supposed to do as she got more popular. I always watched her fashion shows - there are oodles of less self-aware folk in fashion who don't deserve media attention. Everyone in Beverly Hills looks, dresses and talks "right wing"...whoopie do. Like that's really going to change.

Not a fan of this "they should have stayed edgy and boho" schtick.

straw men

just compare Joan Rivers w/ someone she apparently knew in the Village circa 1960, Lily Tomlin

no contest

rivers was never NOT edgy in a certain sense, but her late career kind of illustrates the dead end that "edgy" can become

i do think the sudden instappreciation for her as a "feminist" icon is a little o_O. i guess you can see in her pitiless/relentless subjection of herself and other celebrities to unforgiving standards of beauty a kind of self-awareness that could be recuperated as critique. but.... seriouslY?

also, this piece (mostly in her own words) reveals her desperation I could detect as a kid when she was on Hollywood Squares -- refusing to bluff answers so everyone could see how smart she was. She says comedians need to be "outside" pissing into the tent, then she bleats that she hasn't been to the White House since her beloved Reagans left:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/04/joan-rivers-queen-of-comedy-dies.html

it's amazing how many different aspects of this i couldn't give a fucking shit about

― Daphnis Celesta, Friday, September 5, 2014 9:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://38.media.tumblr.com/ba877d9d9fb90911710296c0c7e85270/tumblr_nbe5gdXvSA1tg4gsvo1_500.png

edgy

well, exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3z85LoUQA#t=97

i can only assume that silverman's painfully unfunny jokes are an homage to joanie

what are your painfully unfunny jokes an homage to

i know you are but

RIP Surprised Trout

If any of you guys have Netflix the doc about her on there is fuckin mesmerizing

in my favorite childhood film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhbF5u9yMkU

http://www.shorpy.com/slideshow/joan-rivers/joan-rivers-01.htm

from Look Magazine in 1968

phi beta kappa at barnard. #wikipedia

a phi is a terrible thing to waste

yeah, "icon" status for a woman who rose to fame on jokes about how ugly she was is the same Lobotomized Feminism that would dance in the streets over the alleged symbolism of President HilRod.

it's like six degrees of kevin bacon except you have to connect ilx threads to democratic politicians and the only person allowed to play is morbs

lol

no the quickest link is usually Lena Dunham's idiot tweets

@DennisThePerrin
"Being dead. Ugh! Can we talk? It's like an Arab wedding in a Mexican neighborhood during Black History Month!"

Her planned October UK appearances were titled 'Before They Close The Lid Tour'.

her funeral arrangements didn't do anything good for traffic

well c'mon she has to go out like a gold-plated whore

at least she's been reunited with that original nose that broke off in Reagan's ass 32 years ago

For a guy with so much contempt for Joan rivers you sure do a lot of Joan rivers impressions

Lol

we need gay icons, tramp

btw she COULD be funny... told Carson she was such an unwanted kid, she was born with a coathanger next to her ear.

she was no dennis perrin

the one who worked for FAIR in the '80s and '90s, against Reagan-Bush and AIPAC bullshit? damn straight

no, not that one.

so Howard Stern did the eulogy.

baruch dayan emetic

i watched her roast this week - robin quivers was on it

xp stealing that fyi

apparently she was on Stern's show a lot -- told him she and Edgar cheated on each other frequently (and that she had a one-nighter with Robert Mitchum -- oh Bob, the evils of weed...).

it makes sense that rivers + stern would be kindred spirits

they are v much alike

except Joan is funnier

needy materialist Long Island yentas

some of my best family members are needy materialist long island yentas