Twin Peaks Returns to Showtime, lets anticipate!!

I searched but couldn't find a thread on this, sorry if there's one.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/06/twin-peaks-2016/

Will it be a great big psychedelic circus ride?

there's a lot of discussion on the revival at Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud? , but it might be worth having a new thread for the new series because it'll surely have trillions of comments once it gets going

TRILLIONS

I'm hoping for a nice score, the first twin peaks soundtrack still influences the music I listen to these days.

http://doublerdiner.squarespace.com/

i went to the real Double R Diner (Twedes) a few months ago, and like all twin peaks dorks i ordered coffee and a pie. it did not resemble that squarespace photo, to say the least. and the coffee was not damn fine!

- the mayor of Tanner, WA

this is happening and i could not be more stoked. mark frost's novel comes out in a couple of days and the audiobook will feature kyle mclachlan (along with other cast members inc chris mulkey aka HANK, who is not in the new series)! I'm totally excited for this thing but also it will be a chance for me to potentially adjust my frankly unreasonably high expectations before the series hits next year. never read any of frost's books - which include a YA fantasy trilogy and a couple of weird victoriana conspiracy type novels with conan doyle as protagonist?? - but obv he did great work on TP and never seems to get his due considering how instrumental his contribution seems to have been.

one thing that's always particularly bemused me is this idea of frost grounding lynch or keeping him in check or whatever - not gonna deny that frost is a more conventional storyteller and less weird than lynch but his esoteric interests seem pretty scatty and his additions to the mythology are way more unfocused than what lynch comes up with. it's ufos! no actually it's the woods! no actually it's native american lore! theosophy! &c. whereas lynch (when he's actually there) keeps things on point by bringing everything back to an emotional core (the palmers' tragedy) and keeping things thematically & tonally consistent in terms of mood, images &c. er not that you want a completely tonally consistent twin peaks but idk. I always liked how along with his other more radical changes to the final episode's script lynch also brought back the important forgotten-by-everybody characters ronette and maddy, along with leland & sarah palmer, dr jacoby, bobby & shelley, none of whom were in the script.

anyway from what little I know about the frost book it seems to lean heavily on the native american stuff and the x files bollocks which I wasn't so into in the series - ufo mythology seemed really played out but I'm kinda coming around to finding it interesting again now that it seems so thoroughly out of time

oh also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHRARCb4APA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8c0LIYWyaM

http://thevinylfactory.com/vinyl-factory-news/twin-peaks-death-waltz-reissue/

the new cast list from the wiki is crazy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(2017_TV_series)

slightly broken link, i think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(2017_TV_series)#Cast

and yes, it's bonkers!!

sky ferreira, trent reznor, eddie vedder.

mark frost, laura dern.

michael cera.

First time I ever noticed the similarity between 'Belucci' and 'Belushi'.

How did Lana Del Rey not wind up in this

37 actors returning from the original series:

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/returning-cast-members-new-twin-peaks/

full list of actors who were in the original series who aren't coming back:

http://www.hitfix.com/news/twin-peaks-cast-list-11-major-omissions-from-lara-flynn-boyle-to-heather-graham

feel like the only real loss is Ontkean (much as I love some of the others)

yeah, i feel the same way. although i think Robert Forster will be good, too.

lots of people I wish they'd found room for/were still alive but I love the film and that hardly has any of those people in so I'm good with it

I listened to two thirds of the audiobook of the new novel at work today btw, fun stuff. I have my issues with it but it's intriguing, I wonder how much of it will have a bearing on the new show. It's styled as a dossier submitted anonymously to the fbi so you get a variety of historical documents that apparently pertain in some way to an ongoing investigation into cooper's disappearance/some other mysterious events, plus commentary from both the compiler and the fbi agent tasked with reviewing the dossier. Won't get too spoilery just yet but (arguably) the central character of the novel is a minor character from the latter half of season 2! There's some interesting retconning and reinterpretations of characters as well, maybe not entirely successfully. One of the highlights so far is michael horse reading from hawk's journal, complaining about the douchebag who saddled him with his insulting & racist nickname

Wait Robert Forester is playing Sheriff Truman? Fan sites must be misreporting that, right? He's gotta be playing a different sheriff

no, he's playing truman, this has been known for a long time. Ontkean declined to return for whatever reason

Gah, I don't see that working at all. I love Forester but he's such a colder presence than the original actor. That seems like it's gonna be really distracting

The new rumor is that Forster is playing Truman's brother, who is mentioned in Mark Frost's book.

How did Lana Del Rey not wind up in this

Ha, I hadn't thought of that, but maybe a cameo performance at One Eyed Jack's.

xp I wondered if he was setting up something like that with the brother!

is the book good? I haven't gone and picked it up yet...has anyone actually read the entire thing already?

I'm skipping around and reading the parts I'm most interested in. It might have more value as a visual object than a novel, really. By the last page you can probably piece together at least one important event that might have happened after the series ended.

I've finished it now (audiobook, print isn't out here yet); it's worth a look if you're a big fan. I'd say read it front to back as it's short and there is a narrative through line with certain things revealed as you go on (not the identity of the mysterious ARCHIVIST which is treated as this big mystery even tho its thuddingly obvious who it is from the beginning). As I said above there's a lot of weird retconning. It tries to connect a lot of dots and explain stuff that doesn't really need explaining (stuff like references to a literal race of giants which I hope the new series just ignores) in a way that just makes everything messier. Oh and it doesn't tell you anything at all about the new series, or even anything post-s2 really.

I love Forster but he's such a colder presence than the original actor.

This is incorrect! Forster can totally do warmth.

Wins would you say it gets anywhere near secret diaries level of quality? It sounds like not?

hmmm, I'd say it falls short of that standard. funny cause lynch reportedly wrote tsdolp in a couple of days and this is meticulously researched & long in the making, but tbf the diary is a really impressive piece of work (just read it for the first time this year). Frost's book is a sprawling and sometimes boilerplate conspiracy narrative (masons, illumnati, roswell, other more interesting stuff I won't spoil but will just say he manages to work in some unexpected real-life figures) but it's engagingly written and the more time I spend with it the more I like it. it's also a beautifully produced thing - both the audiobook and the physical book, which I just got today.

I will say that if you're the sort of tp viewer that was bothered by the teens never being in school or the different haircuts in the film or whatever, this book will drive you bananas. I don't really care about stuff like that at all but there's some really brazen rewriting of characters' backstories in this (eg the book says norma's mother "ilsa" died in 1984 - so who was that food critic lady?!)

great audiobook moment: michael horse's reading of the line "good kid, james; noooot a reader."

(eg the book says norma's mother "ilsa" died in 1984 - so who was that food critic lady?!)

black lodge ilsa

heh I can see that actually. "I am the great wentz".

I've been saying for ages that the "norma's mom comes to stay" plotline is the greatest twin peaks plotline so it would be amazing if that were to be borne out in the new series

that's an ... interesting opinion

Watching Blue Velvet for the first time in years. I'm not even a big David Lynch fan, but anytime I start watching his movies I want to binge watch everything and buy all of the soundtracks. Also somehow I'm usually getting drunk whenever I start a Lynch Movie.

Heineken or Pabst Blue Ribbon?

King of Beers, but tonight it's Tito's Vodka on ice

I've been trying to think who Bobby Briggs reminds me of and finally it snapped into place! Joel from Dream a Little Dream
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5499/30830639025_fec45050a5_o.jpg

Got the book for xmas and slowly taking it in. Did not expect an extended pseudofictional riff on the final days of Meriwether Lewis to a) be so fascinating or b) have anything in the slightest to do with TP.

the identity of the mysterious ARCHIVIST which is treated as this big mystery even tho its thuddingly obvious who it is from the beginning

It seemed obvious from the beginning, but (trying to avoid spoilers) given that particular character's fate on the show, I've been wondering if someone else with the same last name had perhaps adopted the former's speech patterns and interests in the intervening years. Time changes a body.

According to Frost, some of the glaring factual errors in the book are apparently intentional. This is interesting.

Someone bought me this for Christmas. I couldn't make it through all the alien stuff

According to Frost, some of the glaring factual errors in the book are apparently intentional. This is interesting.

I applied the same strategy to all of my research papers in college. The professors always pretended like they didn't understand what I was going for

the errors are not what they seem

How did Lana Del Rey not wind up in this
― Alito Shuffle

some of the "errors" are too glaring to be anything but deliberate tbh, to what end I'm sure I have no idea but it has got some of the more Mandela Effect-vulnerable TP fans sleuthing away, scribbling in (best case scenario) magic marker on their walls. It also gives frost plausible deniability when it comes to the genuine errors, plot holes &c

four hours of new David Lynch film dropping on the 21st of May

further 14 hours in weekly drabs

four hours of new David Lynch film dropping on the 21st of May

every time i get turned off by online discourse re: this thing, or look at the mark frost book and fairly or not think "ugh", or get in a snit about prestige tv culture and the westworld thread or whatever, i remind myself that this is the point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdnwXiwnDaM

oh is this the spoiler thread now? i love it when dale opens the garmonbozia smoothie stand in episode 5, fuck you all

Why does showtime insist on showing me ads for showtime whenever I watch something on my showtime subscription?

this thread should be closed after this weekend frankly, it's silly to keep one open for people who just haven't bothered to watch what is already available and then cry when people mention what is going on

garmonbozia smoothie stand

grossest image in lynch's entire oeuvre

There's always money in the Garmonbozia stand

Yeah I'll lock it in a few days - I posted in this one by mistake.

New Sheriff Truman is cool.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:51 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's always been cool.

Medium cool, at least.

*rimshot*

oh is this the spoiler thread now? i love it when dale opens the garmonbozia smoothie stand in episode 5, fuck you all

― early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it was lit f yeah

there's always money in the garmonbozia stand

Where did the connection between garmonbozia and creamed corn come from? I don't remember anything indicating or even suggesting that associatino in Seasons 1, 2, or 3 or FWWM.

The Garmonbozia page on the TP wiki talks about creamed corn, but doesn't give any clues as to the connection! Help?
http://twinpeaks.wikia.com/wiki/Garmonbozia

Yeah, it's not even a little bit clear. The Tremond grandson (who is apparently a Lodge spirit of some sort) does a magic trick with creamed corn in season 2, and then creamed corn is referred to as garmonbozia in the scene with the Lodge spirits (including the Tremonds) in FWWM. That's pretty much it as far as the connection between the two is concerned.

Maybe Lynch really hates creamed corn and finds it to be the purest distillation of pain and sorrow.

So it seems like the connection is purely from the viewers, not even implied in the show.

It's explicit in the film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ax1ZIpyiY8 - 1:30 here is the link b/w the two

OK I can deal with that. Thanks!

Btw lynch is adamant that this is "a feature film in 18 parts", which is sure to lead to some scintillating debates about lists at the back end of the year

― samovars are trying to steep (wins), Friday, March 24, 2017 12:29 PM (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...unless it sucks.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, March 24, 2017

(tbh, hell i might like this just fine when i get those library DVDs, esp if it's NARRATIVELY UNSATISFYING, but man am i laffing at the crushed fanboy/fangirl thing on my FB feed)

now if you'll excuse me i'm going to rewatch season2 episode3

This was great.

I miss the Return

Also, this is amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZMZEaK4lQ&t=0s&index=2&list=PLSTz8B6AX2CJ4MdKU81AVvGWW2jT2CtMT&fbclid=IwAR10jHQILOqsf9HFyddl45JemaoNynIWsSXWXtIJu7WVkUfW0YqQ4cJuELg

Over an hour of the Return with all dialogue removed, leaving only the sound design matched to imagery (some of it slowed way down).

awesome! that link didn't work for me, but this one should:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZMZEaK4lQ

i miss the return too

guess i'm gonna rewatch it again in september

december* what is time

i'm in the middle of rewatch right now, starting with OG twin peaks. making my way through the latter half of season 2 and having some fun

https://i.imgur.com/eMKFDUV.jpg

https://nypost.com/2018/11/01/death-row-inmate-says-lets-rock-before-being-zapped-by-electric-chair/

i miss the return

he has been turned into pure energy (xp)

making my way through the latter half of season 2 and having some fun

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:22 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i had a lot of fun with the "bad" (ok some of them are the scare quoteless kind of bad) episodes my last rewatch

that was honestly the funnest stretch of watching + podcasting overall

i can't believe i watched something like this weekly

The only thing I found absolutely unwatchable in my last rewatch was Sam Raimi's brother.

for some reason i've enjoyed hank (chris mulkey) more on this rewatch. even in some of the episodes where the writing quality dips, he still manages to be pretty believable as this manipulative slimeball that is somehow sympathetic at times

Which reminds me of a theory I mulled over (but can't remember if I ever posited outside of my head) while watching the Return, which is that the Hank we saw on the show was a tulpa.

he still manages to be pretty believable as this manipulative slimeball that is somehow sympathetic at times

yeah there's something about those hangdog eyes that makes you really want to believe him

I think about The Return a lot. Just this morning I was marvelling at the Green Onions scene, on balance maybe one of the most memorable bits of a show packed with them.

to think i had dozens of carefully considered theories about this show, and every single one of them turned out to be wrong

this show pretty much defined summer 2017 for me. what an experience, every sunday night just hopping into this show and having no idea what's going to happen next

i delayed the start date of a new job just so i could watch the finale in peace

I was kind of traumatized by the finale. That whole endless sequence of them driving very slowly back north was soul crushing.

hey josh az (2011nostalgia), sounds like you could practically change your username to josh az (2017nostalgia), given how nostalgic for the 2017 Twin Peaks: The Return that you are!!!

I bought the blu ray but I can't imagine ever watching this again. Such a deep, frightening meditation on evil.

Maybe in 10 years

Wait 25 years imo

I’m watching it all the time, all day, wherever I go

remember how good this show was

<3

so many of the cast have died since, so grateful they did it when they did

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